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BumpingFuglies ,

Oh, we’ve known. There just isn’t anything we can do about it.

Cowbee ,
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You can organize.

BumpingFuglies ,

Like we did with Occupy Wall Street or are doing now for Palestine?

Ram_The_Manparts ,
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Cowbee ,
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No, harder. Much, much harder.

wizardbeard ,

OWS crumbled in ways right out of various leaked three letter agency guides to disrupting grass roots movements.

I’d love to see it get another try, with how news sources have become far more decentralized. Less opportunity for major news orgs to kill the momentum.

Full disclosure, the destruction of OWS is pretty much the one thing I allow myself to go “full tinfoil hat” over.

can ,

I’m not American, but generally exploite people can’t afford to miss work.

Cowbee ,
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The bolsheviks managed to, as have other revolutionary groups.

Rooskie91 ,

We fucking invented organized labor and we did it so hard our government and elites spend the next century stripping away the right we won.

The problem is that we have to beat the system that spang forth from suppressing the largest worker gains in history. It’s not as simple as OrGaNiZe.

Cowbee ,
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Of course it’s not as simple as just saying organize, I never said it was. Organizing remains the only path out, and it is possible.

ThomasMuentzner OP , (edited )
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buissness is getting squezed . also the current minority…

FreudianCafe ,

Imagine if americans were as excited to shoot politicians as they get about shooting kids in school

Cowbee ,
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Most have, increasingly so, they just lack strong orgs. As Imperialism decays, more will be forced to grapple with reality.

terminhell ,

Military numbers seem grossly undervalued

Maeve ,

We don't know their dark money shush fund income or expenditure, and guess who's never passed an audit?

booly ,

$83 billion per month is almost $1 trillion per year. That sounds about right.

terminhell ,

Oh dang, missed the part of this monthly.

Reverendender ,

Yup. FML

MiraculousMM ,
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Right I thought the average size of a defense budget was just under a trillion lol

davel , (edited )
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Maeve ,

Thank you.

metaStatic ,

The people are in debt... to themselves

protist ,

And as long as people have confidence in our currency, the debt we owe to ourselves really doesn’t matter

MNByChoice ,

Thought MMT was recently disproved.

No sources. Thought the recent inflation showed it to not model things. It would be great if MMT worked though.

davel , (edited )
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MMT isn’t a tool for modeling all of inflation’s factors. It’s simply a description of how sovereign fiat money works. Some people mistakenly (or knowingly, for disparagement or promotion) attribute things to MMT that it just isn’t.

Hegar ,
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Estate taxes is woefully small. There should be a 100% death tax on all assets after $1M, excluding a single home.

ryannathans ,

Have to keep everyone poor to control them

Hegar ,
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I'm not sure I understand your point so if I'm off base let me know.

Firstly, inheriting $200k - $1M doesn't keep anyone poor. It doesn't even stop wealth from concentrating at a level that harms others and warps society - it just prevents that level of wealth from passing down to people who did nothing.

Secondly, if everyone was poor who would be controlling them? You have to keep most people poor and a much smaller group of people unassailably wealthy to control them. That's exactly the problem that high death taxes address.

PennyRoyal ,

I’d like to see one of these for the UK tax system

Sickos ,
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USians spent 4.5 TRILLION dollars on healthcare in 2022.

Sickos ,
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Or 375 billion/month, given the month scale in the above image

circuitfarmer ,
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The US has a problem of representation. Specifically and especially since the Citizens United decision, corporate interests can easily flow money towards politicians to make them do just about anything they want. This exacerbated an existing problem with the corporate tax rate and has now brought it into laughably low territory.

That’s all an oversimplification of course, but it’s not that Americans haven’t “figured it out”. It is far more complicated than that.

wizardbeard ,

Thank you. I’m getting quite tired of people posting the most fucking obvious takes about problems in the US, then going “why haven’t americans fixed this? are they stupid?”, when we have exceedingly small control over the actions of our shitass policy makers.

It’s some real “everyone is dumb except for me” energy.

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