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fievel ,

Signal ?

Crazyslinkz OP ,

Thanks, I’ll check this out!

darkstar ,

Signal, hello?

rwdf ,

Signal.

Crazyslinkz OP ,

Thanks

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Signal!

Crazyslinkz OP ,

Thanks

salarua ,
@salarua@sopuli.xyz avatar

nothing better than Signal

Crazyslinkz OP ,

Seems like it.

ninjaturtle , (edited )
@ninjaturtle@lemmy.today avatar

Signal is probably the simplest to get started with.

There is also element/matrix for more of a discord type feel.

SimpleX if you want something more anonymous.

als ,

Signal is a nice suggestion but is based in the US meaning they could be subpoenaed and legally not allowed to say. It’s unlikely you’d be targeted though, unless you’re a very high-profile person. If you’re concerned about where servers are being run and who by then matrix is a great alternative.

MxRemy ,
@MxRemy@piefed.social avatar

Do they have a warrant canary? I bet they might, hopefully

mypasswordis1234 ,
@mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world avatar

Signal

HEXN3T ,
@HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Everyone is saying Signal, but my family uses a Matrix space (mix of phones and PCs in this case) and it works great. It’s FOSS, federated. Truly future-proof.

bastion ,

Yeah. Signal is the most polished, but Matrix is the most future-proof.

And that’s not to say that matrix lacks polish, Signal is just excellent in this regard.

fisco ,
@fisco@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve been using Delta Chat for the last few weeks, its very similar to WhatsApp, but decentralised… Works very well, available on android & ios, definitely worth a look, as it could be good for your use case…

delta.chat/en/

Weirdmusic ,
@Weirdmusic@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, use Signal. It just works

fisco ,
@fisco@lemmy.ml avatar

Don’t you need to use your phone number to sign up?

calmluck9349 ,
@calmluck9349@infosec.pub avatar

For signal, yes.

ace_garp ,
@ace_garp@lemmy.world avatar

No phone number required for DeltaChat.

It packetises and encrypts chats, using email(SMTP) as the transport medium. Can send downsampled pics, videos or Push-to-talk audio. Can send full quality pics, videos, or attachments too.

It’s on F-Droid, and you can use a seperate free email address(100MB limit) for the SMTP backend (from nine.testrun.org ), or use your own existing email address.

Elegant and robust.

MC_Lovecraft ,

Signal was developed with financial backing by the CIA, so do with that information what you will. I use Teleguard which is very similar to Telegram but run out of Switzerland, and with 2-way encryption automatically enabled, unlike signal or telegram.

Robin ,

Do you have a source for the CIA backing claim? I can’t find anything substantiated with a quick ddg search.

salarua ,
@salarua@sopuli.xyz avatar

Signal was developed with financial backing by the CIA, so do with that information what you will.

source?

admin ,

His ass. This is a conspiracy theory that’s been going around for ages with dubious sources at best.

MC_Lovecraft ,

opentech.fund/…/february-2018-monthly-report/

It’s not a secret. It’s on their website. Note: the Open Technology Fund is the CIA. Just like Radio Free Asia (or Radio Free X, they’re all CIA-run appendages of the US state department) which the fund grew out of. The US government very often funds technologies and startups that have the potential surveillance applications (among other things) and Signal was one of them. The people calling this a conspiracy theory have no idea what they are talking about, but that’s not uncommon when it comes to Americans and swallowing their own propaganda whole.

salarua ,
@salarua@sopuli.xyz avatar

I looked up the Open Technology Fund on Wikipedia and it has no relation to the CIA. well, except that its parent agency (Radio Free Asia) is part of the US government like the CIA is. they don’t seem to work together at all, and they’re under the purview of two different branches of government

besides, as other commenters have said, they’re open source and they’ve been audited. anyone can build the client themselves (with any potential backdoors removed) and set up their own server. would the CIA allow for that?

BananaTrifleViolin ,

Not heard that one before about the cia but let’s say for a moment that is true - Signal is open source so anyone can audit and work with the source code. Also anyone can set up an independent signal server and network.

And are you maybe confusing Signal with Tor and the CIA with the US Navy?

southsamurai ,
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Yeah, but the response to that first part is “and?”

Open source, they’ve been audited, and there’s no sign of anything hinky.

Also, thanks for the teleguard info. Any opinion about features and function for those of us that haven’t run across it before?

akwd169 ,

Signal definitely has end to end encryption enabled by default

BigDotNet ,

Matrix?

unknowing8343 ,

I just got to know about Delta Chat which sounds fantastic as it basically uses your email but wrapped as chat.

XMPP and Matrix are other good options too, although these require creating an account (Delta Chat can work with your normal email account).

The good thing about these last 2 is that they have calls and all that stuff.

SnotBubble ,

I’d recommend Threema. It’s privacy focused, based in Switzerland. You don’t even need a phone number to create an account, they collect no data on you (claimed, but haven’t checked) and the code is open source, under A-GPL 3 license.

There’s a build for Apple and Android, for which you pay once.

I use this to talk with important family members.

SnotBubble ,

I forgot to mention, it’s easy to use, as it’s similar to every other messenger app, so even not so techy members can use it.

intensely_human ,

What’s missing from the text and photos functionality of text messaging, that you need from this app?

SouthFresh ,
@SouthFresh@lemmy.ml avatar

Photo/video sharing will undergo re-encoding under some circumstances, like mixed Andoir/iOS groups

2xsaiko ,
@2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

How can you even do mixed Android/iOS groups right now from iOS? I keep seeing people refer to that, but before I installed the iOS 18 Beta that added RCS, I tried and non-iMessage “group chats” were essentially just a broadcast list where the recipients just saw it as coming from me.

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