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Proton mail = too many emails?

I created a proton email out of curiosity and now can’t help but wonder if it’s really worth it. How do you use it?

For me it would mean having:

  1. University email
  2. Outlook for my PC cause I don’t want PC and phone stuff to mix up
  3. Gmail (for my google account) on the phone (PlayStore, Maps, google chrome…)
  4. Proton mail

But how do you use it? Let’s say I use it on Lemmy… But I’m still using Google Chrome for Lemmy Even if I avoided Gmail by using the proton email to create my google account, I’m still using Google services bc of apps and PlayStore, how does this work?

If I don’t use personal email for much unless these google/Microsoft related stuff, does it still make sense having one and keeping it separate from anything else?

dwindling7373 ,
  1. Forward university email to your protonmail account
  2. PC and phone are not separated stuff, they are basically just different screen sizes. If you need some separation just make multiple protonmail accounts.
  3. If you don’t feel like going through the pain of degoogling, yes, you would keep a gmail account just for basic android funtionality. that does NOT mean every app registration ever. Those are separated companies that allow you to register with google and you should not do that, register using email -> protonmail.
  4. That’s… why I’m here.
Techhh OP ,

But why not create the google account directly with proton?

dwindling7373 ,

Because Google doesn’t allow that.

Techhh OP ,

Proton or other emails?

dwindling7373 ,

Any other email. Google registration is not strictly about the email, it’s about registering with them. They also give you an email, but that’s not integral to, say, the strict necessities of Google Maps, it could just be a login and a password…

my_hat_stinks ,

I’m not really sure what you’re asking since your post is a but unfocused, but if your problem is that you have too many addresses with different providers you could simply redirect mail from alternate addresses to whichever one you actually check. When I switched to proton I didn’t delete my old gmail account, I simply imported my old emails and set up email forwarding (see here for Proton’s migration instructions from Gmail). If you want to completely de-Google you don’t need to do it all at once, just migrate accounts to your new addresses as needed.

If you want a separate account for your PC then this does of course require a separate account. There isn’t really a solution there since your problem is also your requirement. You could set up separate folders or aliases for your PC and phone but that might not have the same level of separation you want.

I’d recommend switching away from Chrome-based browsers entirely anyway due to Google forcing through questionable standards by throwing their near-monopoly around, but using one Google service doesn’t mean it’s pointless to switch away from others. You don’t need to do everything at once.

Techhh OP ,

The main problem is I have an Android so I must use Google services, play store AT LEAST. My phone doesn’t support custom roms… So I’d basically be using proton just to create my account but still using google… Is it worth it to have a 3rd personal email?

jeffreyosborne ,

What phone do you have?

Techhh OP ,

Honor 90 lite 😞

nutbutter ,

You can use universal android debloater to remove not only bloat but core google services as well, including google play services amd play store. Then solely rely on f-droid, obtainium etc.

You will have to use the advanced settings of UAD, amd you might have to do some tries, because removing anything important will make you reset your device.

Techhh OP ,

The thing is I need some apps and I don’t know if I’d be able to download them in other ways

dwindling7373 ,

You can get Aurora store from f-droid. It grabs the apps from the play store.

bazingabot ,

If you have a Google Pixel phone then install grapheneos and all becomes a “can” from a “must”

MicrowavedTea ,

You can use a Google account only for the play store and not use Gmail at all. No need to connect that to your proton email and it’s still better than having everything on Google.

Techhh OP ,

Yes but that’s the point, I would still have 3 personal emails… I mean addresses by that. What would I be doing with proton? That’s what I need email for, the apps and their accounts :(

MicrowavedTea ,

But you can just ignore the Gmail address and use proton for everything. So if you install a lemmy app from the play store (using the Google account), the lemmy account can use the proton address, it doesn’t matter how you installed the app.

Techhh OP ,

it doesn’t matter how you installed the app.

This is what I need an explanation on, if anyone can help

decisivelyhoodnoises ,
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You will need to start creating accounts in the apps/services you want with the traditional way of setting email+password. Not by clicking “login with google”

Techhh OP ,

Yes I get that, what I mean is, my data would still be safe that way? Even if I’m downloading the apps through google account and play store? And how so?

dwindling7373 ,

An App is basically a website. You just have a login with them as [email protected] instead of [email protected]. Whatever data they have is tied to that, they will send you notification and stuff on your protonmail, you’d recover the password through that accont…

MicrowavedTea ,

Services like lemmy, reddit, amazon, your bank’s website require accounts regardless of where you’re accessing them from. When you sign up do it using the protonmail address. After you install the app on your phone (through the play store, f-droid, or anywhere else) log in to the account you made using protonmail. The gmail address doesn’t have to be part of this.

Techhh OP ,

What about directly using the proton mail to create the google account?

MicrowavedTea ,

I guess you can do that too if it’s an option. I’ve never tried it so don’t know how it works ¯_(ツ)_/¯

safesyrup ,

When time comes, you can change the mail address of you gmail and other non-proton mails to the proton mail and eventually get rid of the other mails that are no longer used.

And of course you can use firefox instead of chrome.

When i migrated to protonmail i just set up an auto-forward on my old address to the new proton address.

Techhh OP ,

Yes but all the apps on your phone didn’t you still use a google account to have them? What to do about play store? (In case of android)

jeffreyosborne ,

There are lots of different app stores like F-Droid and Aurora Store. You can also sideload APK files that you cough legally acquire.

Techhh OP ,

How do I get these app stores?

abrahambelch ,
@abrahambelch@programming.dev avatar

GoogleAny search engine is your friend

Oneser ,

I would add that to use these stores it is HELPFUL (not mandatory) to understand what they are presenting.

F-Droid is a store for open source software, normally maintained (or not) by teams of passionate people or volunteers.

Aurora store is a mask over the Google play store, which can use an anonymous account to download files from the Google play store. The Aurora store may not be ideal of you are working with paid apps, but it is worth reading up before you blindly jump in here.

There is also the !privacy or !privacy groups which can help if you want to de-google.

jeffreyosborne ,

Good point!

dwindling7373 ,

f-droid.org There you go.

bazingabot ,

This process took for me a year or so…but now I am finally there. 3 protonmail accts and nothing else.

One for personal/family/bank/official/insurance One for everything which I need longer…e.g. Logins to webpages One for online shopping/tickets…this one I delete every 12 months and create new, because here annoying spam from vendors is piling up

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