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Have you noticed an increase in political fighting?

I travel a lot, and talk to a lot of different people. I’ve noticed that while people certainly do have differing opinions, it’s not as extreme as what I see online. I’m starting to feel like all this hate and division is manufactured. Has anyone else noticed, that when you actually talk to real people things are far less divided than various media would have you believe?

j4k3 ,
@j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, there are a lot of convenient idiots and psyops that make no sense. I block all and highly recommend doing the same.

Fizz ,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

There is a lot of people manipulating internet discussions. It doesn’t take much to detail and entire thread. Idon’t see it much on Lemmy but it’s common on Twitter and reddit.

NauticalNoodle ,

It can be seen throughout the lemmyworld politics sub if one wants to find an example.

TheBigBrother ,

Have you heard of the horseshoe theory?

At the end of the day far-left and far-right are not so different.

j4k3 ,
@j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

One is trying to steal fundamental human rights, pull off a revolution of medievalism, has the worst performing sitting president by every metric as its populist mascot, is hellbent on a christojihad, causes a recession by failing to do its primary job of passing a budget, performs wonderfully as a Russian military proxy unit that completely sabotages Ukraine, fights for criminal gerrymandering because they are hated by any educated sane person or any halfwit that can disconnect from tainted billionaire corporate media garbage and think for themselves; there is nothing remotely close to these two, unless you are or are massively diluted by psyops.

Hell, if anyone gives a damn about women and unalienable human rights, they should punch any Republican in the face at every opportunity.

TheBigBrother , (edited )

At the end of the day both parties work for the same owners, and the only thing they want it’s power and money, politicians are just making a living from the budget while the real owners rule…

j4k3 ,
@j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

You are psyops.

TheBigBrother , (edited )

What you mean by psyops?

JohnDClay ,

I usually think of tankies as the horseshoe branch of liberalism. They have a lot more in common.

Thespiralsong OP ,

You are exactly the guy a don’t encounter in real life. But I think lemme is right. The reason I don’t hear you, is because if you advocated for punching conservatives at a bar, you would get hit by a conservative. So you don’t say it out loud when that’s possible. You give permission to others when there are no consequences to yourself.

davel ,
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You’re not even using horseshoe theory correctly, not that it especially matters because it’s a horseshit theory.

Horseshoe theory is a liberal theory that equivalates socialism and fascism. But socialism is outside the Overton window of contemporary Western politics, so the theory doesn’t even apply.

In any case, liberalism and fascism have more in common with each other than with socialism. Socialism is about abolishing private ownership of the means of production, while liberalism and fascism are about the state protecting private ownership through its monopoly on violence.

CaptainKickass ,

Sounds like bullshit to me

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

The horseshoe theory does not enjoy wide support within academic circles; peer-reviewed research by political scientists on the subject is scarce, and existing studies and comprehensive reviews have often contradicted its central premises, or found only limited support for the theory under certain conditions.

pr06lefs ,

I talk to people who are against corruption, against racism, believe the medical industry is broken, monopolies are bad, etc. Seems we agree on a lot of basic principles yet they are still voting trump tho. WTF?

LarkinDePark , (edited )

The other choice is another genocidal Zionist. I don’t get the confusion.

EDIT: The correct choice is not to take part in the charade and not be complicit in America’s crimes against humanity.

ToucheGoodSir ,

Netanyahu wants Trump to be the next president for some reason though?

LarkinDePark ,

Probably feels like he’s squeezed all he can out of the other party. Time for some fresh meat.

YeetPics ,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Doubt.

He wants a real ally, not some asshole with a conscience who is informed via a functioning cabinet.

YeetPics ,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Weird how that is LMAO.

It’s almost like you’ve caught a stoog in their false concern for Palestine or something. WEIRD!

StaySquared ,

It doesn’t matter who is president. The U.S. has been hijacked. Eliminate dual citizenship politicians, AIPAC, and ADL… and we will start to see actual changes that benefit the U.S.

Until then, every single politician that goes to the Western/Wailing Wall is an enemy of the people, of the world, essentially.

Talmudists, Kabbalists, Khazars, and Frankists.

pr06lefs ,

Don’t worry bro, you can write in Putin

LarkinDePark ,

Good. A less mass murdering president would be a better option for America.

YeetPics ,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Good. A less mass murdering president would be a better option for America.

You’ll be happy to hear Harris is running! Much less mass murdering.

arefx ,

Trump supports Israel you buffoon.

LarkinDePark ,

Yes I know. So does Holocaust Harris.

arefx ,

Yeah man they all do that’s the fucking point. You are a moron

LarkinDePark ,

Well it was my point, thanks for stating it again for me. Nobody can justify supporting a genocidal candidate.

YeetPics ,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

I feel the same about Xi, maduro, Putin and Kim of the north.

You send yours to prison and we’ll send ours.

arefx ,

it’s all gone over your head.

YeetPics ,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

So glad you cuks have settled on a nice rhyming scheme 🤡

tallricefarmer ,
@tallricefarmer@sopuli.xyz avatar

Yes appears most people have a lot more common ground than it they would expect, but everyone is convinced their candidate is the way to best fix things. I believe this is why there is so much focus on social issues like what bathroom people should use instead harder things to fix like monopolies.

The biggest difference btwn the parties is one is still down playing climate change caused by global warming, and that is objectively wrong.

bloop ,
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@Thespiralsong @asklemmy look up "normal distribution" for details but.
The normal distribution of any opinion will naturally show that the largest number are BETWEEN extremes. As in, in the middle. So for the majority of people and the majority of issues people will find that half of their concerns are addressed by one party and the other half by the other party.
The most extreme views are just yelled the loudest.

JohnDClay ,

But echo chambers and polarization can increase the standard deviation, bringing down the opinions in the middle. Now may topics might even be a bimodal distribution rather than a normal distribution.

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