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Would you wear a body cam at work?

If body cams get cheaper and cheaper, companies might start asking more people to wear them while working.

E.g.: coloradosun.com/…/youth-corrections-audio-surveil…

I could see this for doctors, at restaurants, stores,, etc… eventually.

Are you ready to wear one?

EDIT TO ADD: A few people said this wouldn’t ever make sense for doctors (privacy laws) or for fixed locations (stores). I should have thought of that.

But what about Uber / bus drivers, or repair people who go into homes? I can imagine a large corporation thinking a cam is a good idea, for their own CYA (not for the customers’ or the employees’).

Also I don’t like this idea either, to be clear. I was mostly playing devil’s advocate here to see what you all think. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Pretty much what I expected, tbh

wildbus8979 ,

I would absolutely, categorically, stop doing business wherever I see employees wearing bodycams.

rustyfish ,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Sure. Why not? It will probably work like it does with US police officers, magically turning off right before the murder takes place self defence happens.

Seriously, I wouldn’t care at all. But it’s still a stupid idea and I would strongly oppose it. Even if only in solidarity with people it would fuck over.

neidu2 ,

“Self defence”

Plot twist: you work at Home Depot.

communism ,
@communism@lemmy.ml avatar

In the jobs I work at, no, I wouldn’t. Body cams would only be used to snitch on people. It makes sense for surveillance to be used over people in positions of power like cops, doctors, prison guards, etc, who are known for abusing their power. Not against ordinary people or members of the public though. If retail workers wear bodycams, it’s to snitch on shoplifters. If teachers wear bodycams it’d compromise kids who approach them to tell them something in confidence. Etc.

Mrs_deWinter ,

Why doctors? Filming patients would be a nightmare in terms of privacy and data policy.

In my line of work (psychotherapy) it would be equally impossible. People are having a hard enough time as it is opening up to medical professionals, I don’t think that the additional barrier of being actively filmed would help anyone.

perishthethought OP ,

Check out the linked article. I agree with you but that agency is only adding cameras for the agency’s benefit, not the worker’s.

Mrs_deWinter ,

Youth corrections staff is still a whole other story than doctors though. A physical examination is probably one of the most vulnerable positions one could be in. These cameras would record people getting naked, multiple orifices being examined, and patients talking about symptoms or things they are unsure and often ashamed about.

The cost would be enormous. I imagine many people would be even more reluctant to go to the doctor than they are now.

And the benefit, in my opinion, would be very slim. Medical malpractice is far more subtle than the examples from the article. As patients we’re rarely worried that our doctor will physically assault us, we’re worried about errors in judgement, delays in care, and prejudices based on gender, ethnicity, age, sexuality, and so on. And those aren’t directly observable most of the time. Even if you get the moment on camera where your doctor decides to trivialize your symptoms you mostly wouldn’t be able to prove it happened for discriminatory reasons.

viking ,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

Never.

Vanth ,
@Vanth@reddthat.com avatar

No. Mine isn’t the sort of job where bad interactions with customer happen. Everyone is white collar for the most part and the aggression comes in a written contract with a gaggle of lawyers reading every word.

HobbitFoot ,

There are things that I do where a body cam would be useful, but I wouldn’t wear it for office work.

MadBob ,

I used to wear one on the railway. We had these ones that you switch on with a big, loud sliding clasp on it, so if someone starts acting a bit shirty, you could often deter them just by starting the recording (which held the previous 30 seconds or something in its memory).

perishthethought OP ,

Makes sense, especially if you trusted the organization to use the video to defend you, not just cover their own butts.

BlueSquid0741 ,

Where I work; the public facing staff, security and customer service roles, are now offered to wear one at the start of their shift. They all want to use one.

These workers face abuse - physical assault, threats, harassment - from members of the public.

What has been found is that when they turn the body worn camera on, the other person tends to stop the abuse or at least de-escalates somewhat. (Prior to having body worn cameras available, some of these staff had tried to use their phone to film when in an incident, but it almost always triggered an immediate violent response - one staff had their phone taken and smashed, another was hit in the face)

There has been a decrease in mental health injury claims since using these. My own talks with these staff are that they feel safer, and had asked their employer to procure more body worn cameras as there wasn’t enough for all the staff.

The staff are not required to have them constantly on, they press a button to switch it on when an aggressive situation is forming or they believe they are in danger.

then_three_more ,

A few of the supermarkets in my country have this as an option for staff. Since the pandemic there’s been an alarming rise in public attacking shop staff.

Dark_Arc ,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

That’s absolutely wild.

perishthethought OP ,

This. Yes. I would just find a new job, but what if all employers in an industry require body cams?

Cysioland ,
@Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml avatar

The reasons for wearing a bodycam as a remote software developer are solely dystopian.

mercano ,
@mercano@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think it’s going to happen that way. Body cams are needed if you want to record people working in the field, such as police officers, but for people working at a fixed location, an office or factory or what have you, CCTV cameras are cheaper, less intrusive, and harder for a bad actor to screw with by “accidentally” covering their lens or forgetting to turn their unit on.

rand_alpha19 ,

If I got paid double to wear one, sure. Other than that, no.

mayo_cider ,
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I refuse to use camera in meetings

bss03 ,

Depends on the pay differential and other options. I think it’s less useful for positions in my career, but it’s not an absolute no.

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