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Google's plan is to annoy you relentlessly until you update Messages

There’s a new Google Messages update page that takes up your phone’s entire display every time you open the app.

Granted, keeping your apps up to date is important, and this new system will help get that across to users. But we’re not sure annoying the hell out of the user about it is the best strategy.

muhyb ,

That’s weird, isn’t Google Play already updating apps without asking?

(QKSMS master race btw)

CosmicCleric , (edited )
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That’s weird, isn’t Google Play already updating apps without asking?

My understanding is that yes, you are correct, it’s auto-updated in the background.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

aluminium ,

Its on by default but you can turn it off. I did so because it takes a good chunk of battery life away when your phone out of the blue decides to start updating apps.

CosmicCleric , (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Its on by default but you can turn it off. I did so because it takes a good chunk of battery life away when your phone out of the blue decides to start updating apps.

Believe there’s a setting to have it only do updates when there’s wifi available, which takes less battery.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

TrickDacy ,

Not clicking that sketchy link. Also it makes no sense to quote an entire message like that.

CosmicCleric ,
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Not clicking that sketchy link.

You’ve never heard of a Creative Commons license?

It’s not ‘sketchy’ at all.

Also it makes no sense to quote an entire message like that.

Actually you can just highlight the comment you’re replying to before hitting the reply button, and the Lemmy web client will copy it down for you quoted.

I started doing that when I found out people were going back and changing the reply to me after I successfully countered it, to make my reply look incorrect or off-subject.

Basically, documenting the conversation at that moment of time, so my reply is not misrepresented later on.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

TrickDacy ,

Fuck bots

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Fuck bots

You’ve never heard of a Creative Commons license?

The wiki article about Creative Commons…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Commons

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

Markaos ,

What’s sketchy about creativecommons.org/licenses/…/legalcode.en ?

TrickDacy ,

That isn’t what they posted, they obscured the url with a bunch of garbage text. I’m not bothering to check the url when the text looks like that.

Markaos ,

Well, feel free to click on this link then: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

(it’s just a link to Google homepage - the point is that you really shouldn’t trust the link text lol)

Anticorp ,

It depends on your settings.

muhyb ,

I see. It seems it’s not the out of the box setting but can be opt out.

eee ,

That’s still (slightly) better than apps which force close when they’re not updated, and don’t allow you to do anything at all.

Anticorp ,

Firefox on Linux has done this to me a few times and cost me a lot of progress and time.

GreenEngineering3475 OP ,

I never had this issue. What were you using deb, rpm, flatpak or snap version?

Anticorp ,

I’m not near my computer to confirm right now, but I think I installed it manually from the tar file. I think there was an issue with the flatpak version on Pop!_OS, but I can’t remember what, since it has been years since I originally encountered it. I can confirm tomorrow if you want.

It’s weird that someone downvoted your question. I upvoted it to put it back at one. Idk why people downvote questions so often on this platform.

GreenEngineering3475 OP , (edited )

Firefox flatpak version had a lot issues. It has improved a lot, still a long way to go.

I have exclusively used Firefox flatpak for the last year and updates has been quite smooth. Never had my session closed automatically(to my memory) due to an update, usually waits for me close the session and when I reopen its updated.

My experience is limited to Ubuntu.

Kusimulkku ,

I think I installed it manually from the tar

I’m going to guess user error

Anticorp ,

It’s not. There are several threads about it online

HakFoo ,

Xbps on Void does it for sure.

Tippon ,

I had it this week on my Mint laptop, with the bundled Firefox. I hadn’t used the laptop for a few weeks, so I knew it needed updates, but I needed to get something done straight away.

I opened something in a new tab, and it opened as the restart to update tab. As well as breaking my train of thought, it restarted without opening the new link, but also warned me that it wouldn’t reopen any private browsing tabs and another type of tab that I can’t remember.

However they justify it, that’s bad design.

InnerScientist ,

That’s not Firefox forcing you to update, you had Firefox open while you (/your package manager) was updating Firefox and after the update was done Firefox needs to be reopened. To prevent this you just have to …not update Firefox while it is running.

Tippon ,

I didn’t say that it forced me to update. This set of replies is about apps that force close and don’t let you do anything.

My Firefox updated in the background, because that’s how I set my system up, but instead of letting me keep working and updating on the next app start, it forced me to stop what I was doing and update there and then, while telling me that it wouldn’t be restoring any private tabs that I had open.

As a contrast, I was also running Chrome. That also updated, but waited for an app close before completing the update. It didn’t interrupt me, and it didn’t lose any of my open tabs.

Firefox has it wrong in this case.

BradleyUffner ,

What else is an app supposed to do if the server has been updated and is no longer compatible with the app version you are using?

eee ,

if that happens occasionally, it’s fine. I’ve seen apps which update every other week and do this bullshit.

Toes ,

But we’re not sure annoying the hell out of the user about it is the best strategy.

Are there any other options? I’m assuming that this only occurs in the situation where automatically updating didn’t work out?

GreenEngineering3475 OP ,

Are there any other options?

A persistent banner asking to update at the bottom of the search bar is a good idea. Barring access to an essential app under any condition is just bad UX.

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