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Android helps Apple "Get the Message"

I’m not a fan of the “war” between Android and Apple when it comes to SMS/texting. The rest of the world doesn’t use SMS/RCS/iMessage as much as WhatsApp and the like, so the US is pretty much lagging behind everyone else on this anyway.

That being said, I have to admit Android did a good job with this!

Justly0250 ,
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SamsungUS joining in.

I guess the iPhone sales numbers in the US are keeping them awake. I personally think Apple will only bend if they are forced somehow by the US government, like the way EU did with type-C.

droidpenguin ,

I def agree that there needs to be major interoperability improvements between platforms. Though I do not want to be locked into using Google Messages to get RCS. I wish they’d open their API to other apps and even more so allow self-hosting your own RCS server but I don’t foresee the latter ever happening.

Ya there’s Matrix and whatnot which I use with some people, but most everyone just wants what works by default. I like to tinker and have options, but most people don’t.

Till then, I’ll enjoy postage stamp resolution videos from my Apple friends /s

ryan ,

Ok, I'm gonna get into this.

2005: Google Talk released.
2013: Google Hangouts released.
2015: Google announces Google Talk shutting down, encourages people to move to Hangouts.
2016: Despite Hangouts being a one stop shop for SMS and Chat, Google discourages people from using it for SMS, asking people to use the Google Messages app instead.
2016: Google Allo released.
2016: RCS adoption begins.
2017: Google Talk shuts down.
2017: Google Chat released.
2017: Hangouts is re-targeted for business and moves to some sort of consumer freemium model?
~2018(?): YouTube Chat released, a 1:1 messaging system inside of YouTube. No idea when it was discontinued but it didn't last long.
2019: Google Allo discontinued.
2022: Whatever was left of Hangouts is discontinued.
2023: RCS through Google Messenger is now default instead of SMS and group messages are finally encrypted.

Compare this to:
2011: iMessage released. As far as I can tell, it's been e2e encrypted since at least 2012 and potentially since release.

Google, you have no fucking leg to stand on. Get your shit together. If you had had a coherent messaging strategy, maybe Apple would have been amenable to working with you, but what incentive do they have right now? For all anyone knows, you'll drop RCS by 2026 in favor of moving everyone to Google Heythere, the new ridiculous app for messaging!

Polar ,

Your comment is disingenuous.

Adding the 2018 YouTube Chat isn’t fair. Google has products that allow communicating between users. It was never meant to be any replacement for SMS, it was simply a chat system within YouTube. You know, the same YouTube that has had DM’s since day 1?

You also said in 2016 Google encourages people to use the Google Messages app. The same app being used today.

Google also launched other apps around the same time. Apps that were in development for a while. Then they shut them down, to focus all of the features/time into Google Messages.

You’re also adding very specific apps that Google never intended to make into an SMS app. Like Google Chat or Hangouts Rebrand.

Your timeline is disingenuous. Essentially from 2016 - NOW Google has been working on making Google Messages the one stop shop. Only 5 years less than Apple has been making iMessage.

lemann ,

Samsung supported RCS natively in their messaging apps since about 2013, and my carrier released their own RCS+SMS messaging app around that time to bridge the gap for non-samsung android users

Google was pretty late to the RCS boat lol

smileyhead ,

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    spikespaz ,

    But I hate Matrix

    Polar ,

    Google Messages has been around since 2016, and Google has been shutting down their other apps and porting the features over to Google Messages. Google has shown they’re dedicated to RCS, and have not displayed any signs of shutting down Google Messages.

    It’s constantly being updated to add features, like actually implementing iMessage reactions. When an iOS user sends a reaction, it converts it to an actual reaction on the Android side. When an Android user sends a reaction to an iOS user, it just says “x liked this message”. Google is doing what they can to make the experience the best.

    From your 2012 timeline of iMessage, that’s only 4 years after Apple.

    9point6 ,

    FWIW, and I’m still a bit sore that hangouts replaced it, but Google talk was around for a fair while and was based on XMPP

    tal ,
    @tal@kbin.social avatar

    Open source community have their own chat system since 2014 (Matrix).

    I think that IRC is kind of the original open chat system.

    EDIT:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat

    IRC was created by Jarkko Oikarinen in August 1988 to replace a program called MUT (MultiUser Talk) on a BBS called OuluBox at the University of Oulu in Finland, where he was working at the Department of Information Processing Science. Jarkko intended to extend the BBS software he administered, to allow news in the Usenet style, real time discussions and similar BBS features.

    SRo ,

    Lol what a shittake

    Swarfega ,

    WhatsApp certainly dominates Europe but I’d love to see a universal standard to replace SMS. The less messaging apps the better. WhatsApp is owned by Meta after all…

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