Android helps Apple "Get the Message"

Justly0250 , 11 months ago

SamsungUS joining in.

I guess the iPhone sales numbers in the US are keeping them awake. I personally think Apple will only bend if they are forced somehow by the US government, like the way EU did with type-C.

hypelightfly , 11 months ago

Not using proprietary protocols isn't lagging behind.

droidpenguin , 11 months ago

I def agree that there needs to be major interoperability improvements between platforms. Though I do not want to be locked into using Google Messages to get RCS. I wish they’d open their API to other apps and even more so allow self-hosting your own RCS server but I don’t foresee the latter ever happening.

Ya there’s Matrix and whatnot which I use with some people, but most everyone just wants what works by default. I like to tinker and have options, but most people don’t.

Till then, I’ll enjoy postage stamp resolution videos from my Apple friends /s

transigence , 11 months ago

At least props for Stereo MC's Connected.

danhakimi , 11 months ago

If you're using Google Messages anyway, it's true that RCS is a half-notch better than SMS. Unfortunately, it doesn't compete with any decent chat service on any front—Not signal, not Whatsapp, not Matrix, not even Telegram, and Telegram sucks ass. It's fully centralized, Google gets all of your metadata (which is not worse than Facebook getting all of your metadata, but it is something that Apple obviously won't agree to), there's only one app that does it...

have they even figured out how to encrypt group chats yet?

Polar , 11 months ago

not even Telegram, and Telegram sucks ass

Telegram is literally pioneering messaging apps. Everything that other apps add, Telegram has added first. Go look at their blog post updates, and you’ll see how far ahead of the curve they are. Features that WhatsApp is getting in 2023, Telegram added back in 2016.

I am assuming you think they “suck ass”, because you’re upset the E2EE is not enabled by default, and you have to open a private E2EE chat with someone? You know, the same buttons you press to open a non-E2EE chat?

danhakimi , 11 months ago

Telegram is literally pioneering messaging apps.

Oh, is that why they haven't figured out how to encrypt a group chat yet? Or how to sync an encrypted chat? Or how to institute any of their fucking features in an encrypted chat?

They still don't have multi-channel chat groups, do they? And there's still a limit on how big their chat groups can be, unlike Matrix / Discord / Slack, right?

Everything that other apps add, Telegram has added first.

Oh, you're talking about "broadcast channels." No, actually, Twitter added that feature first, it's called Twitter. Telegram Broadcast Channels are just a social network, except it's unmoderated, so crypto scammers can play around there with impunity. Wow, incredible feature!

But oh boy, you have lots of sticker packs!

Oh, and it looks like they added stories after Snapchat did it, and then after Facebook did it... what, ten times? fifteen? Yeah, sure, Telegram invented those.

I am assuming you think they “suck ass”, because you’re upset the E2EE is not enabled by default, and you have to open a private E2EE chat with someone? You know, the same buttons you press to open a non-E2EE chat?

That's one of the bigger issues, I'm guessing you haven't actually tried using one of those chats since you seem to be excited about all of Telegram's "features." Yeah, sorry, this untold disaster against privacy is an insult to its users' intelligence, and the users can't tell.