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limerod ,

16GB of RAM sounded too good to be true. Granted 13GB is nothing for sneeze at still. Hopefully, they can provide an option to toggle it off. Sounds wasteful for people who would use it once a while.

RobotToaster ,
@RobotToaster@mander.xyz avatar

How did google manage to make a version of linux more bloated than windows? It’s almost impressive.

MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown ,

Me, using a 6 year old 3GB iphone

ByteMe ,
@ByteMe@lemmy.world avatar

What about the regular 9?

JackGreenEarth ,

They only have a few MB reserved for Google’s AI, most of the 12GB is free for all apps on other models.

ByteMe ,
@ByteMe@lemmy.world avatar

It’s 3 gb

JackGreenEarth ,

What is? The reserved RAM for Google Gemini on the Pixel 9 Pro XL? Yes, I know

baatliwala OP ,

On the Pixel 8 Pro and Pixel 9, we note just 0.26GB (275,336KiB) of locked RAM […], a very small amount most likely used for some background tasks in the OS. However, on the Pixel 9 Pro XL, this leaps to 2.91GB (3,051,936KiB) of Unevictable and Mlocked RAM. Subtract out the Unevictable RAM from the Pixel 9, and there’s an extra 2.64GB (2,776,603KiB) reserved on the Pro models.

IllNess ,

Really interesting. I wonder what features the Pro XL has that the Pro version doesn’t to use over 10 times more RAM.

BlackLaZoR ,

Only?

slazer2au ,

I assume 13GB shared with all active apps and not 13 per app.

BlackLaZoR ,

I know how RAM works

lud ,

Sure about that?

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DarkThoughts ,

Yes. Lots of people here have much less than even 13GB physical ram. My Pixel 4a has 6GB. So reading a news about how apps have "only" access to 13GB sounds just weird when that's more than twice the total ram you have available.

lud ,

I agree about that but it’s stupid that you only have access to 13 of 16 GB.

DarkThoughts ,

If there's no way to disable the LLM then yes, I agree.

halcyoncmdr ,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

They have 16GB of RAM physically, 3GB is reserved for AI. So yeah, only 13GB is usable by regular apps, even if you don’t care about any of the AI stuff.

BlackLaZoR ,

Seriously, what app is capable of saturating 13GB?

MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown ,

I think it’s more to do with app switching without having to reload or losing your state in minimized apps.

halcyoncmdr ,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not about a single app, it’s about multitasking without having to reload apps.

At various times I’ve juggled between 4 apps at once on my phone. Say something like Messaging, Firefox, maybe a lemmy app, and Bitwarden for logging into something.

DarkThoughts ,

At that point I go to my PC.

catloaf ,

Me too, and I’ve never had an issue juggling those apps on my Pixel 6 with 8gb RAM.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

So then why does it have 16GB?

Have you noticed how expensive these things have gotten? Doesn’t it seems like charging you for more RAM than it necessary and then locking 20% of it away for “features” no one wants is a bad thing?

Apollo2323 ,

What if we use graphene OS I would guess that RAM would not be longer use and you can use the full 16GB.

kibiz0r ,

Barely enough for the OS and one app

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