If Kurtzman did anything with it, that trek is likely garbage and ignorable. If someone else wrote and directed without Kurtzman sticking his mystery box horseshit in it, I’ll give it a shot. Lower decks is great. Strange new worlds is sometimes fantastic, and sometimes very fucking stupid, which brings it in line with trek in general, so I like it.
You are being illogical. It is well known that the Federation as a whole, and humans specifically, practice a belief in equality, where they do not believe in inherent superiority, and it is illogical to try and force them to believe otherwise. It is a very… emotional reaction to try and prove them wrong, when it does not affect you in any way.
It would be far more logical to get along with them, rather than rest on the belief of Vulcan superiority, and also participate in merry-making. It is not illogical to celebrate a friendly game, irrespective of whether one has won or lost.
Trek has always been woke but the woke messages in classic Trek were embedded in good stories so it felt smart and natural. That is why fans of classic Trek embrace the way it is woke. Discovery on the other hand constantly puts the woke element in the center, points three spotlights on it and then paints it neon until there is no more room left for a good story and mature viewers feel treated like they were idiots. It is sad how younger fans seem to be unable to perceive this significant difference and accuse people who do of bigotry.
Sorry, I am discussing with too many people simultaneously already and I got tired of it. Please just read my several other comments in this thread where all my points have been made. Apologies.
Lmao first interracial kiss, champion of non-binary, trans, and gay people for the super obvious if you used two or more brain cells when watching metaphor characters sprinkled all over the seasons.
Sure, go ahead and say this hasn’t always been star trek.
This is like people who think Starship Trooper is a Gung-go military action thriller… I’d ask if you’d like to know more, but if you did, you wouldn’t be this dumb.
… We are talking about the TV show with an episode where they show it’s wrong for aliens with black and white skin to discriminate against the same aliens with white and black skin, right? Just making sure we and the “the story is bad because wokeness is at the forefront” comment are on the same page.
My dad is definitely the type to think Starship Trooper was a cool pro-military movie, but surprisingly he gets that it’s satire and mocking his former job.
However, he still upholds that the BUGS somehow managed to launch an attack against earth, somehow either aiming at a populated area or getting EXTREMELY lucky, from ACROSS THE GALAXY
I mean, zero issues with anyone creating any show to express any narratives. But sci Fi doesn’t NEED to address social issues to be interesting. It doesn’t need to be allegorical or anything else to do it’s job.
Paul Verhoeven is great at satire that goes over people’s heads. Same with Robocop, which is a hyper violent satire on American police militarization, privatization, corporate corruption and a complete lack of government oversight.
It drives me up the wall how easily people just ignore Verhoevens satire. The ST:E discord is filled with people who think it’s an advertisement for fascism. Or those other people that think Heinlein had a great political philosophy.
I saw Starship Troopers shortly after it came out. Other than knowing his name and that he was a well known sci-fi author, I wasn’t familiar with Heinlein so I assumed he was a satirist. I picked up one of his other books and read half of it thinking I just wasn’t getting it before I suddenly realized “oh shit, this guy is being sincere.”
Nobody is doing that. Literally nobody is writing those scripts, you just view them as “woke” because suddenly the hero isn’t male, or white. Pretend die hard doesn’t exist, If you were to write die hard exactly as it’s on the script but McClain is a woman, is that woke?
Why is it that when a woman or person of color gets even close to a leading role, suddenly it’s called “woke”
While the human's behavior following the loss of the game is illogical, as humans are want to do, your dismissal of their responses to your clarifying statement regarding their loss as 'petty' is inherently illogical as well. Doing so instead of, as logic would dictate, rigorously testing their response for potential validity, if only in a human context, has resulted in your hypothesis being unanswerable with available information. Please keep in mind that while the actions of humans often appear illogical, this commonly is due to a lack of context surrounding those actions or understanding that, being highly emotive beings, the logic of their actions may be derived from a not immediately accessible source given a Vulcan perspective in observing the events. Further inquiry in this matter is generally welcomed by persons engaging in apparently illogical behavior, and your failing to clarify these conditions at the time of the event necessitated the query passing to this board, which could have been a post in /c/humansubspacemicroblog providing insight into this phenomenon instead of us attempting to ascertain fact with incomplete data.
NBI. Cultural exchange is not only one of the fundamental principles upon which the United Federation of Planets was built, but also among the purest expressions of IDIC.
If said cultural exchange were to reveal the innate superiority of the Vulcan species, one could hardly be held responsible.
Indeed, it would be an invaluable contribution to existing bodies of evidence demonstrating just that.
I remember seeing people complaining about “woke adaptation” with The Sandman, and Neil Gaiman always reply on Twitter he was ok with that, is like people can’t believe there is authors or works who is being left-right stories, people acted like he was controlled, mind-washing or something.
The Sandman is such a hilarious example of something to get upset about being too woke, too. “This adaptation of a comic written that featured gender fluid characters in 1989 has been corrupted by the woke mob!”
The correct procedure if you thought the experiment posed an imminent danger to the crew would have been to erect a force field around the container until any ill effects could be scientifically determined.
You also violated Starfleet protocols which require us to not interfere with developing cultures.
I’m not certain that it was the type of culture you’re thinking of. and i didn’t want to put a force field around the fridge. i have stuff in there too.
Transporting the container to the medical bay or science lab would permit the use of force fields whose emitters can be highly focused, permitting containment of the container in question without interfering with the lunches of you or your other crewmates. I’m not sure what emitter configurations are available in your mess hall, but the labs clearly are able to handle such and do so regularly.
We also have learned through unfortunate and perhaps overly-repeated experiences to not make assumptions about unknown cultures. I can’t even recall the number of captain’s logs I’ve read where little blinking lights or some weird rock thing or glowing space object turned out to be intelligent.
I think you are required to document the incident and report it to your commanding officer.
Yes. Kombucha is a actively fermenting beverage. It has microorganisms in it that contribute to its flavor. When you consume kombucha, you also consume the microorganisms. This cannot be replicated because as you know there are strict rules about using the replicators to create living organisms.
This was their project. You should have assumed that they had knowledge of what was happening and asked them about it as opposed to putting it in the matter reclamator.
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