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Man, I love the bit where Archer is already force feeding Trip a plate of shit for giving a person kept in sexual slavery a glimpse of a better life, and to add insult to injury he’s all, “And on top of it all, now the Vissian couple will have to wait to be able to conceive.”

Archer is the worst captain.

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Well, I guess we need to shut the forum down seeing as there isn’t going to be a better meme at any point.

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I enjoyed this when it first came out on mobile, but not enough to keep paying for the apple arcade, or whatever. Plus, I don’t think any other app I’ve ever used has come close to causing my phone to heat up like this one did.

But I can definitely see picking it up on steam to play mindlessly while I’m listening to a podcast or whatever.

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If you like old school adventure games, the TNG game, “A Final Unity” was great, but sadly isn’t available on any platform I’m aware of these days.

And the recent game, “Resurgence”, was good if you like TellTale style narrative games.

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And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting.

Care to elaborate?

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Why would anyone think he would be?

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Why would the character be a stereotype?

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Sure, but that doesn’t mean they were exclusively heterosexual.

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Yeah, he played the character like a real person (who lives in space and brings a sword to a skydiving phaser fight) and not a caricature.

I’m assuming you don’t believe all gay men are stereotypes from 1980s comedies?

So, unless you were expecting there to be hardcore man on man penetrative sex on screen, what would “gayness” to John Cho’s acting mean?

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Having a character that’s just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare.

I don’t know if that’s as true even in 2016 when the movie came out, as it once was.

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I’m not looking for a confrontation, I just want to know what “gayness in acting” means, and why it is apparently a problem.

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You’re trying to make a problem where none exists.

Again, I’m only trying to figure out what you meant when you said:

And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting.

Because it sounds pretty ignorant.

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I’ve been playing STA off and on since the first game was in play testing stage, and have been running my current campaign for 28 months. I’m a big fan of the game.

I’m a bit concerned about converting my current game over to 2nd edition, assuming that’s what my players want to do, but I definitely think the Core Rulebook could use a reorganization at the very least.

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Yeah, I think “The Void” is probably a top ten VOY episode for me because of how it shows Janeway’s inclination towards coalition building being successful. That is a quality I like in a Starfleet captain, but too often in VOY, the plot is about how Janeway and Co. get betrayed by someone they had entered into an agreement with.

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The uniform here is interesting, because the comic takes place after DS9, but before “Nemesis”, around 2377. Other than the crews of the Theseus, and Defiant, characters wear the “First Contact” uniforms, yet Shaw and the other Starfleets we see on this cover are wearing the early DS9/VOY uniforms.

Obviously there could be some time travel shenanigans, which would place this in 2373 at the latest. Shaw was an ensign during the Battle of Wolf 359 in 2366, and on this cover we see him rocking commander pips, so he would have progressed up the ranks in about seven years. Obviously a thing that can happen in Trek, as we’ve seen, but somewhere in the Delta Quadrant Harry Kim just punched a bulkhead and has no idea why.

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Truly we have no punishment to fit their crime.

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Ii believe Neutral Good is Doctor Reyga, the Ferengi scientist whose murder Doctor Crusher investigated during “Suspicions”.

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We do ban people for being bigots. Take a month off, champ.

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Actually it’s both!

When I was trying to think up a suitable title, Billy Shakes was the first thing that came to mind as I am a fan of the Bard. Then I remembered its use in ‘Westworld’ and that cemented my decision as it seemed appropriate, given the content of the image.

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There’s an entire audio drama about it that Ryan and Hurd did voice work for.

It is perfectly fine.

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Yeah, I can’t wrap my head around it either. Easily the worst, most self indulgent season of Trek in my opinion.

But it had the TNG crew back aboard the Enterprise D so for a lot of people it’s hitting the nostalgia button.

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I would argue that even if season two’s ambitions exceeded it’s execution, at least it was trying to do something. Still not a season of Trek that I think deserves any real regard, but it did add something new and interesting to the fabric of Trek. And maybe at some point some comic book or novel will actually do something interesting with that thing, because I can’t imagine we’re ever actually going to see it revisited on screen.

Season three was exactly the dark, cynical mess that everyone complained season one was because Admiral Clancy cursed at their space dad. Jack Crusher is the infallible, ultra special badass everyone accuses Michael Burnham of being. Season three is ideas I would expect to find in someone’s first attempt at writing fanfic, not the work of seasoned television professionals.

And, to be fair, both seasons two and three were made by the same people, so the fact that neither of them were particularly good should not be shocking to anyone.

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The bar was just so low after the TNG movies and first two season of PIC that traumatized fans were happy to have a seemingly final sendoff that wasn’t completely terrible.

“Traumatized?” We are talking about a television show, right?

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If I’m remember correctly from Michael Chabon’s instagram AMAs, apparently the relationship was based entirely on the chemistry that Ryan and Hurd had when they attended events together, so it was very last minute that they added the tease of a budding relationship in that final scene.

But yeah, they could have done more to build it up.

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Fair, PIC did have some pretty rugged moments.

But would you say you actually experienced trauma watching season one, and then that trauma was alleviated watching season three?

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There have been plenty of indications that the Prime Directive applies to warp capable species. I think episodes like “Too Short a Season” and “30 Days” could be cited as evidence, though some would argue we’re never explicitly told that either of the civilizations being interacted with are explicitly warp capable. In “Redemption” Worf resigns his commission after Picard claims the Federation cannot support Gowron in the Klingon Civil War, citing the Federation’s, *“principle of non-interference.” Granted, he does not explicitly say it’s the prime directive. However, there is “The Outcast” the J’naii that Riker falls in love with, Soren, claims to be familiar with all the systems aboard a Starfleet shuttle, including the warp nacelles, and Picard later tells Riker he can’t interfere with the J’naii subjecting Soren to conversion therapy because of the Prime Directive.

And, if you want the most explicit example, in the PRO episode, “First Con-Tact”, a screen displays text – copy and pasted from the book “Star Trek: Federation - The First 150 Years” – outlining the general rules for how the Prime Directive applies to warp capable cultures.

*“Section 2:
If said species has achieved the commensurate level of technological and/or societal development as described in Appendix 1, or has been exposed to the concepts listed in section 1, no Starfleet crew person will engage with said society or species without first gathering extensive information on the specific traditions, laws, and culture of that species civilization. Then Starfleet crew will obey the following.

a) If engaged with diplomatic relations with said culture, will stay within the confines of said culture’s restrictions.

b) No interference with the social development of said planet.”*

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There would be actual canon issues if that was the case as opposed to the mostly imagined ones that people bring up.

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Care to expand on what specific continuity issues you’re concerned about?

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Which episode was that?

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That’s not a continuity error, that’s an aspect of Spock’s character.

• In “Amok Time” Kirk learned that Spock was engaged to T’Pring, and he also comments that Spock never mentioned how important his family was after learning that T’Pau would be officiating the ceremony.

• In “Journey to Babel” Kirk suggests to Spock that he might want to travel to the surface of Vulcan to spend time with his parents, while Sarek and Amanda are standing right in front of them. Kirk learns that Spock’s father is one of the most well regarded diplomats in the Federation.

• In “Yesteryear” when Spock returns from this journey to the Vulcan of his childhood, he tells Kirk that the only thing that changed was that a pet died. He doesn’t mention that it was his childhood pet that died protecting him.

• In “Star Trek: The Final Frontier” Kirk learns that Spock had a half brother, Sybok. At that point they’ve known one another for 22 years.

• In “Sarek” Picard mentions having met Sarek at Sarek’s son’s wedding. What son? Spock? If it was Spock, there’s no mention of him having a wife when he later shows up in the “Unification” two parter, or in the Kelvin films. Another, as of yet, unnamed member of Spock’s family?

It would be a bigger continuity issue if Spock had mentioned a sister.

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No Garak & Bashir on the cover? Cowards.

Joking (not joking) aside, I am looking forward to seeing what’s included. Especially the Steve Orlando story.

Also, knowing when we’re going to get Ryan North and Chris Fenoglio’s choose your own adventure LDecks book is very exciting.

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I don’t mind admitting that I’m over 40, and have been watching Trek since before TNG was being broadcast.

And, while personally I would be on board with an adventures of a younger Kirk as first officer aboard the Farragut, a TOS remake just seems like a missed opportunity. TOS exists, and we can all watch it, warts and all, at any point. Sure, there are some things in the show that it would be nice to modernize, but I would much prefer something new as opposed to re-treading that familiar ground.

Really, the only Trek I would be excited to get a remake of would be TAS.

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I don’t think one good thing offsets the entire rest of Tom’s personality. He says some racist shit to Chakotay in the pilot.

He’s definitely the kind of guy who is recording a podcast in the Delta Flyer with his wraparound sunglasses on.

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‘Star Trek: Picard’ Wins 4 Saturn Awards, ‘Strange New Worlds’ Wins 1

https://trekmovie.com/2024/02/04/star-trek-picard-wins-4-saturn-awards-strange-new-worlds-wins-1/

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I imagine at least part of it is that it’s seen as likely going to be the last opportunity to give the actors, especially Patrick Stewart, these awards.

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From the opening log of “Whom Gods Destroy”:

Captain’s Log, stardate 5718.3. The Enterprise is orbiting Elba Two, a planet with a poisonous atmosphere where the Federation maintains an asylum for the few remaining incorrigible criminally insane of the galaxy. We are bringing a revolutionary new medicine to them, a medicine with which the Federation hopes to eliminate mental illness for all time. I am transporting down with Mister Spock, and we’re delivering the medicine to Doctor Donald Cory, the governor of the colony.

So, at least this one TOS episode indicates that there is only one small facility which the Federation uses to house all the remaining criminally insane people in the galaxy. I think we can assume that by the galaxy, Kirk actually means the Federation. But as of that era, there apparently exists a medication that they believe will cure people of mental illness.

How much stock we want to put in one third season TOS episode I think can be debated – and crucially we never get any confirmation as to the long term success of the medication – but it is part of the canon.

There is also the Tantalus V penal colony from “Dagger of the Mind”. Before they beam down, Kirk tells McCoy that it’s more like a resort colony than a cage, though the doctor who ran the facility was using a machine to essentially brainwash both inmates and staff.

As for incarceration and rehabilitation in the 24th century, we know Tom Paris was at the New Zealand Penal Settlement when Janeway sprung him, with the approval of the Rehab Commission. When we see the settlement, the prisoners appear to be doing some sort of labour: one is carrying something, and Paris appears to be calibrating some sort of machinery. Granted, we don’t know exactly what he was doing or why. Maybe he was working on a project he volunteered for or even conceived himself, and was given access to the resources to carry it out.

Ro Laren was on the Jaros II penal colony after her court martial. She was sprung from that by Admiral Kennelly, and he claims it was difficult to do so.

Kasidy Yates was incarcerated for six months for aiding the Maquis, though there’s never any indication that the sentence isn’t purely punitive.

In “Blaze of Glory” we saw that after his capture in “For the Uniform”, Michael Eddington was being held aboard a station in a fairly small cell. He was still wearing civilian clothes. It’s possible he hadn’t yet been formally tried and convicted, though.

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Star Trek and X-Men were a huge part of my childhood and teen years as well, so I 100% get where you’re coming from.

Only tangentially related, I really do wish Marvel would take a back to basics approach with the X-Men so I could get into them again. I know a lot of people love the Krokoa era, and I’m happy they have it, but for me it is too dense and too far removed from what I grew up with for me to be able to penetrate. I know they’ve got an upcoming sea change happening, so maybe then.

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I’m not really sure what the point you’re trying to communicate here was?

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