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vojel , to linux in When I shutdown my computer last night, it gave me this error message. It seems to be working fine but should I be considered?
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Yes this is a kernel panic which occurs when something goes terribly wrong inside the system. This could be anything from broken software to defective hardware. You should observe if this happens regurlarly.

vortexal OP ,
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Ok but is there anything notable from this error message, like anything specific that I should be checking out for?

vojel ,
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First line of your picture is a hint for a software issue. I would just google that.

vortexal OP ,
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I tried seaching it online but the only I could find (that I understood how to use it) was to run “sudo ldconfig” which didn’t seem to day anything. I have no idea if that actually fixed the problem or not but if it didn’t, do you have any other solutions?

vojel ,
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Did it help though? Same error or is the system shutting down fine now?

vortexal OP ,
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I wont know until tonight.

vojel ,
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What prevents you from shutting it down right now?!

vortexal OP ,
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It’s probably just paranoia but every laptop I’ve ever owned has had a problem pertaining to repeatedly turning them off and on again. This laptop is my mom’s and I’m just using it because my old one stopped working and I really don’t want to break this one too.

vojel ,
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You’ll break things if you do more and more stuff suggested inside this thread without testing it. Maybe executing ldconfig was enough, but if you try more and more stuff you don’t know what you did. Linux is very hard to break, especially when you didn’t mess around with things like packages and libraries by yourself, there’s mostly a way back. But if you’re scared use the time and make a backup and a live USB stick with a Linux distro of your choice to rescue the system if something’s terribly messed up.

vortexal OP ,
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I’m not concerned about Linux breaking, I’m concerned about the laptop itself. My last laptop stopped being able to boot into any OS or even enter the bios after I was repeatedly restarting it one day and my laptop before that has a problem where for some reason the screen gets dark spots if it’s turned on more than once a day. I also have another laptop that has a failing GPU and another that for some reason can’t read internal hard drives anymore. In the off chance that Linux does have problems, I am already prepared for that but as I said, I’m more concerned about the laptop. We’ve had it for over 5 years and we really can’t afford a new one.

Morphit ,
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ldconfig sets up links and caches for loading library code. That might be an issue if your install is broken between updates. You can use ldd to check if code can be looked up. ldd /usr/lib/x86-64-linux-gnu/libpcre2-8.so.0 should show no errors. Likewise for ldd /usr/sbin/init.

(Your paths may vary)

vortexal OP ,
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Ok, so Synaptic Package Manager states that it’s installed in the exact location you say that it’s supposed to be in but ldd states “No such file or directory”. What’s going on here?

https://sopuli.xyz/pictrs/image/b27d17c1-a016-45ab-9166-521b0b4ceaed.png

puttputt ,

You have a typo: It should be x86_64, not x86-64

vortexal OP ,
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Oops, anyways it seems to have been found this time. I did reinstall it already but I wont know if it fixed the issue until tonight.

ohai , to internetfuneral in Brendan Fraser
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Encino Man!

Erika2rsis , to internetfuneral in Brendan Fraser
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Don’t forget Journey to the Center of the Earth (2008), that one’s a classic

Rocketpoweredgorilla ,
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May be an unpopular opinion but I thought Encino Man was pretty good too…I think that was the first movie I saw of his.

Bishma ,
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I only read the novelization. Thanks scholastic book fairs!

FlyingSquid ,
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Blast from the Past is an inventive comedy. I really enjoyed it.

theodewere ,
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it is fantastically well done, and both he and Silverstone are great in it

theodewere , (edited )
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no i think that movie has gotten some love lately, and specifically his performance.. but he's amazing in The Scout as well, the one about the baseball phenom.. he and Albert Brooks are both terrific..

princess ,

encino man > george of the jungle

and i will fight anyone who disagrees

Ddhuud ,

I’m sorry Brendan, I’ll let you know when it is my birthday.

HonkTonkWoman , (edited )

Airheads is Brendan Fraser’s magnum opus, in my opinion. The scathing fire driving his delivery of “Butt Puppet” really hammers the burn home.

theodewere ,
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this kind of analysis is why i come to the internet

flashgnash , to linux in Ad from 1985 - A saying about source code

That said people who use buildings typically don’t have or need the blueprints to said buildings

TrivialBetaState OP ,

This appears to be true on the surface but is not accurate. I am a structural engineer and when people need to do something with their buildings, the engineers (structural, mechanical, fire, etc.) and the architects need the plans or at least a survey. If a side has the plans and the authority on the plans, that side has huge leverage over the building. Fortunately, this is never the case with buildings. Plans are considered public information. It would be so much better if the same applied to software.

flashgnash ,

Oh interesting I didn’t know that that’s pretty cool

Open source buildings

Ramin_HAL9001 , to linux in Ad from 1985 - A saying about source code

Applications without source code don’t exist.

Oh, they meant, “you should have the source code to the applications you use.” Well in that case, good call on them.

erwan ,

Yes unfortunately they do.

In the 90’s I wrote some Visual Basic applications, the only source code they had was isolated snippets to describe the buttons actions.

But most of the app was not based in source code but directly on a binary formal that VB could understand.

pglpm , to linux in Ad from 1985 - A saying about source code
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Thank you for finding this gem!

mexicancartel , to linux in Ad from 1985 - A saying about source code

EA

Today’s EA is quiet opposite lol(Electronic Arts)

Tolstoshev ,

I’m old enough to remember when they were good. I still play Mule every so often.

lord_ryvan ,

Not sure if this is clear to everyone, but these are two different companies abbreviated as “EA”

theodewere , to linux in Ad from 1985 - A saying about source code
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if it was in PC World, it might be likely they were business data applications..

Deeyess20 , to linux in Ad from 1985 - A saying about source code

I like it. Similarly, licensing closed source commercial software is much like leasing or renting. You rely on the vendor to do maintenance, fix issues, and provide support. SaaS is like staying at a hotel.

TrivialBetaState OP ,

That’s a fantastic description!

KrokanteBamischijf ,

You can do both though. Lots of high-profile software is both open source and available as SaaS.

The beauty of that strategy is you can ensure the software will survive your service provider going bankrupt or otherwise suddenly disappearing, leaving you without a solution.

By not being locked into a specific vendor, competition will be centered around providing the best service, which is in my opinion exactly as it should be.

AngryCommieKender , to technology in Cost of a 128KB computer with floppies in 1985

We actually had one of those Macintosh 128 K machines in the lower left. My dad got two external floppy drives for it. The first lesson I remember learning, that I still remember is when the dialog box asks:

{Disk Read Error, [Abort][Retry][Initialize]?}

Initialize is Never ever ever the correct option.

PrinceFidget ,

Assuming “Initialize” reformatted the disk and preped it to be used fresh?

AngryCommieKender ,

Correct, and that could be very problematic depending on the disc I had grabbed

frippa , to technology in Cost of a 128KB computer with floppies in 1985
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My grandfather’s glorious Olivetti proudest pc-1,paid 11million lirae (about 6.000€ euros) with an 8mhz CPU and well over 512kB of ram!

(from Wikipedia, the house burned down in 2001) https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/3108495e-4832-44bd-a614-eef774a33d66.jpeg

FReddit , to technology in Cost of a 128KB computer with floppies in 1985

Well, actually this went from funny to tragic.

The company was called Need to Know, and it was initially in an old Victorian under a freeway overpass in San Francisco.

So I got the computer Friday and ran into this 23 line fail that evening. I called around 8:00 pm, expecting to get an answering machine. Instead I got, " Hey come on over!"

So I drive back to SF and get there around 9:00 pm. Somebody immediately puts a drink in my hand. People are just partying in a low key way. There are computer parts all over the place, but people are just partying.

So one of the guys took my machine apart, diagnosed the CPU failure, and replaced it with parts on hand.

I’m back in Berkeley by maybe 11:00 pm with a fully functional computer.

Here’s where it gets ugly. I did business with them into the late 1980s. During that time , some psycho took on a grudge against them and literally burned their place of business down.

Several places of businesses, burned down sequentially. Fucking tragic.

I lost track of them by 1990. I don’t know if they went further underground or what.

But they gave me a really human intro to computing. I can only hope they are well , wherever they are.

can ,

That’s a great story. Thank you for sharing.

FReddit ,

I wish I knew what happened. It still bothers me.

dragontamer , to technology in Cost of a 128KB computer with floppies in 1985

Today, you can buy microcontrollers with this much RAM + Flash-ROM for like $5 USD. No joke.

www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/…/15203348

www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/…/4162590

These modern $5 microchips probably have more features people care about too. Also they go like 100MHz on 3V and like 50mA (or less) of current. Or ~150mW of power or so and are therefore suitable to be run off of AA batteries.

scala , to technology in Cost of a 128KB computer with floppies in 1985

The conversion is wrong. £1500 in 1985 is £5814.92($7,359.45) today.

TrivialBetaState OP ,

I just googled the conversion of the price from 1985 to today based on inflation and then googled the exchange rate between the current value in GBP to USD.

Kalkaline , to technology in Cost of a 128KB computer with floppies in 1985
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Fun fact: flipping the switch on the surge protector while someone was working on one of these was absolutely devastating to their work. They would remind you about the incident nearly 40 years later.

WackyTabbacy42069 ,

Hey, I recognize you from this comment! You flipped that switch so many decades ago, ruining everything I had worked so hard for. I’ll always remember.

Those lost 50KB of work will forever be etched into my mind. Quite literally: the second I get my hands on a 30TB neurolink you bet your goddam ass I’m making a 50KB text file with your name on repeat, so that I’ll always hear your name echo in my thoughts. “u/[email protected] flipped my surge protector’s switch”, for x in range infinity

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