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finthechat , to gaming in The Fallout show's been a pleasant surprise
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Good: Nice special effects, nice wardrobes, nice sets, the ludicrous violence fits right in with the universe, and particularly the performances from the actors are very good. At least visually, it looks way better and the effects look way more convincing than 3 Body Problem, to use another recent show as a comparison.

Bad: apparently the show disregards New Vegas lore (personally idk I never played it), I think the editing is super bad, the story is average.

iturnedintoanewt ,
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There’s NV hinted at the next season… If they make it.

Faydaikin ,
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Disregarding established lore is a Bethesda specialty. Shouldn’t come as a surprise if the show does it as well.

realitista , to gaming in The Fallout show's been a pleasant surprise

Only on first episode but also very pleasantly surprised. I expect very little from Amazon and often think of cancelling it but I’m only paying about $4.00 a month so don’t end up bothering. This month I’m getting my money’s worth.

Sam_Bass , to lemmyshitpost in catastrophy

So, not an actual cat ass trophy?

RGB3x3 ,

I think I’m too millennial to understand this sentence.

surewhynotlem ,

Cat ass trophy = Catastrophe

Kolanaki , to lemmyshitpost in catastrophy
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“mood”

MagicShel , to gaming in The Fallout show's been a pleasant surprise

It sounds really good, but I’m protesting commercials on a service that promised to be commercial free. I will watch it vicariously through online discussions.

hydroptic OP ,

🏴‍☠️

KairuByte ,
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⛵️

nxdefiant ,

I’m going to rename my NAS “online discussions” in your honor.

TrousersMcPants , to lemmyshitpost in ape

He also only drinks Powerade, but that’s beside the point

Mr_Fish , to lemmyshitpost in ape

Ther-ape-y

altima_neo , to gaming in The Fallout show's been a pleasant surprise
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So it’s actually good? It was looking like low budget camp from the set photos.

wintermute_oregon ,

It’s decent. I enjoyed it. I think the more you’ve played the game, the more you’ll enjoy it.

kbal ,
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From the looks of the first episode, one thing it's definitely not is low budget. It's well-crafted and probably very expensive. The sex is perfunctory and the violence is lovingly detailed at great length. There are no real surprises, good or bad, in how they've handled things.

Personally I probably would've preferred low-budget and camp, but I imagine it will succeed in achieving the goals that its producers had in mind. I will probably watch some more.

Isoprenoid , to gaming in The Fallout show's been a pleasant surprise

Give it time.

warm , (edited ) to gaming in The Fallout show's been a pleasant surprise

While it's pretty average as far as action drama shows go, it's very easy watching! Was pleasantly surprised. I think it fails to establish a lot of things, so non-fallout fans might be a little confused sometimes. I think they could have gone a bit slower and properly introduced the wasteland, its people and its factions. Hopefully they increase the prop budget too, there's not a lot of weight to things and you see them actually bend the foam power armor in one shot.

EherVielleicht , to gaming in The Fallout show's been a pleasant surprise
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dm_me_your_boobs ,

Oh I get it, he must play the character Fall Out boy

gregorum , to gaming in The Fallout show's been a pleasant surprise

Personally, I’ve found it pretty great. I’ve watched the whole thing and am going in again for another binge. The ending is great. Knowing that it’s already been greenlit for season 2 gives me a lot of hope.

It would have been really easy to fuck this show up, but they really managed to pull it off!

Flughoernchen , to lemmyshitpost in ape

Also, sometimes you’re not depressed, you’re just dehydrated. And now drink a glass of liquid, everyone!

A_N_O_N ,

The hydro homie we need

norbert ,
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And now drink a glass of liquid, everyone!

Whisky for all, huzzah!

Num10ck , to funny in Wait, even Skeletor?

ah yes the eternal debate on tolerance of evil.

RadicalEagle ,

I think you can “love” someone without tolerating their nonsense. It’s all about being willing to find a consensual way of interacting. Theoretically it may be impossible, but we can still try.

greenskye ,

Ironically this is the whole ‘love the sinner, not the sin’ bit that Christians love to use to excuse their own intolerance.

RadicalEagle ,

Yeah, I think a lot of modern Christians are unaware of how masochistic and sadistic they really are. They get so hung up on the idea that they have a “get out of jail free” card that it justifies all the rest of their behavior, even when that behavior is explicitly called out in their manual lol

CileTheSane ,
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I have an ex who cheated on me. I’m not holding on to anger about it, I do honestly hope they’ve found happiness, but I want nothing to do with them again and if they showed up at my door I would tell them to leave.

zloubida ,
@zloubida@lemmy.world avatar

To love someone is sometimes to say them that their actions are evil.

melpomenesclevage ,

No I’m pretty sure its more about telling them everything that sucks about them is totally fine and even good actually.

Flax_vert ,

It’s been 2000 years, how have we not gotten the hang of this already

melpomenesclevage ,

Pretty sure love is more than 2000 years old.

Unless you believe in incredibly-young-earth creationism, where the OP and all your memories older than dinner last night are just a lie planted here by god to trick us into thinking the world is more than 16 hours old.

Flax_vert ,

What is blud yapping about 🗣️🗣️🗣️

melpomenesclevage ,

Just saying Christianity didn’t invent love, and making fun of religious excuses.

Flax_vert ,

I’m talking about interpretation of Jesus’ words (•-•")

melpomenesclevage ,

Dude we don’t even know if he existed, and even if he did we know he wasn’t even the coolest guy the romans executed on a cross.

Flax_vert ,

If we don’t know he existed then we don’t know if most people until recent history existed

melpomenesclevage ,

Nah, there aren’t a lot of reliable documents, holy books don’t count.

Flax_vert ,

Why don’t “holy books” count?

melpomenesclevage ,

Not historical sources, full of dubious claims.

Find him in roman records, or letters about ‘this hippie bastard, Christ or something, was a total dick when he came into the office to pay his taxes today. Gods, why do I even do this fucking job? I’m having serious anxiety issues, and at 23, im past middle age. I’m afraid I won’t ever…’ Or literally any reliable source.

Your book about fucking wizards is not a reliable source, and if you get to say Jesus definitely existed; I get to say gandalf actually existed. Also magneto (that even had pictures in the primary source!)

Flax_vert ,

Flavius Josephus, Pliny the Younger, Suetonius, Celsus, Tacitus, Thallus, Phlegon, etc

Your book about fucking wizards is not a reliable source

How come?

melpomenesclevage ,

Because its got wizards and makes a lot of strong claims, including about wizards, that aren’t corroborated NY actual real historical documents, which we have for some of the times and places mentioned, including the Roman empire, who kept absolutely fucking anal records-in fact, when it split, we literally still use the word for half of them (byzantine)as the word for ‘absolutely fucking anal retentive bureaucracy’.

Youre working with more literary analysis and like ‘oh hey here’s an accurate description of an eclipse, so this person probably saw one, they were in this part of the world, so we can guess when it was written’ type stuff than historical details. An ancient stone dildo tells us so much more about a culture than your book about wizards.

Flax_vert ,

Okay, for a start, from the time of Jesus, we don’t have very many records. And the Byzantine empire didn’t exist until 300 years later, coincidentally when Christianity really took on. A good example is Pompeii. Basically all evidence we have for it is archaeological. There is only one written record which is written by a guy -surprise- who also mentions Jesus. The eruption of Mt Vesuvius was likely witnessed by around 250,000 people and killed many upper-class romans. In fact, the writings about Jesus are extraordinary as so many of them survived and exist in such a close timeframe to the existence of Jesus.

Secondly,

Because its got wizards and makes a lot of strong claims, including about wizards

Gonna assume by wizards you mean Jesus being God.

This is circular reasoning. “Jesus couldn’t have been God because there is no proof of Jesus being God, and the Bible isn’t proof because Jesus couldn’t have been God because there is no proof”

Basically you’re saying “Prove to me Jesus is God” “Okay, here’s your proof” “I reject your evidence because it claims Jesus is God when Jesus clearly isn’t God”

Thirdly, there’s archeological evidence of an early Church existing and early New Testament manuscripts from the second century. There’s even a stone tablet mentioning Pontius Pilate, which before it was discovered, critical atheists claimed was a fictional character.

melpomenesclevage ,

Archaeology counts, dude.

No you can’t prove to Mr that ‘Jesus was god’, because you would first need to prove god exists. I would’ve heard by now if you could do that.

So anything youre saying does that I can safely dismiss as made up fantasty nonsense.

I’m saying “prove this was a real dude who lived and was much better at community organizing than carpentry, and this is the same guy who some people think was an immortal wizard who isnt actually a wizard its complicated but whats important is he fought a balrog or whatever and helped frodo get the one ring to mordor before fucking off with him to valinor”. And apparently you can’t even keep the question straight.

Flax_vert ,

What sort of archaeology would Jesus leave behind?

melpomenesclevage ,

I don’t know or care, I don’t talk this much about the bodies of much cooler communists who I know existed.

Flax_vert ,

Jesus literally rose into heaven, you can go see His empty tomb in Jerusalem as well lol.

melpomenesclevage ,

Oh shit. Yeah, that’s proof he was a real guy.

Flax_vert ,

Yep. Also means heaven and hell are real places. Which one?

melpomenesclevage ,

Pretty sure we’re in hell, but youve been outside; you know this.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Is it?

Ephera ,

Yeah, the paradox of tolerance.

My favorite solution that I’ve heard, is to treat tolerance not as a moral imperative, but rather as a social contract.
Anyone who is tolerant will have tolerance extended to them. Those who are intolerant, on the other hand, can fuck right off.

LwL , (edited )

Yes, I’ve never really seen the paradox as a paradox for that reason. The question, rather, should be what precisely we require from the social contract. The old question of “where is the line at which point my freedom impacts your freedom”. But no matter where that line is, it means that if someone spews hate, you’re allowed to respond in kind

(Morally, that is. If it’s covered by law then legally it should be handled through the justice system and responding in kind would fall under vigilante justice)

MonkderDritte ,

They did that in east europe (fucking off), founded ISIS, flooded an area with drugs and overran it.

Drewelite , (edited )

Yeah the Internet has insulated people from how a society works. They can “fuck off”… to where? Somewhere they’ll still vote and encourage people to follow their example? Somewhere without people telling them they’re wrong where they can become more and more extreme?

It’s like prison. Yeah let’s take all the people that have a proclivity for crime and put them together. Then teach them to obey the system by using it to punish and traumatize them. After all, they deserve it. They’ll realize that, any day now.

Drewelite ,

The way I practice it is that everyone gets a basic level of tolerance. Free speech, basic human rights, and a low level of respect and decency. But until you treat others the same there will be a social friction wherever you go and eventually a hard line. Like, no, we don’t want you in here if you’re just going to be an asshole everyday. Come back in a week and we’ll see if you’ve learned some self-control.

Manmoth ,

Secularly everything has to be a social contract because there is no moral authority.

Ephera ,

Well, for your own moral behaviour, you’d be the authority…

Manmoth ,

You’re saying the same thing.

Betch , to lemmyshitpost in ape
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This ape gets it.

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