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zakobjoa , (edited ) to memes in potatoes are fruit
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You refrigerate vegetables?

Edit: I forgot that climate exists.

shadowintheday2 ,

Considering it’s almost always 30°C+ 60%+ RH at least half of the year where I live, yes

Refrigerating them increases their shelf life significantly in these conditions

It’s probably less effective in other cooler and drier climates

ComradeR ,

I live in a tropical country. If I don’t refrigerate at least the vast majority of the vegetables I buy immediately, they will be rotten in like two days at max.

RIP_Cheems , to memes in potatoes are fruit
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Pharmacokinetics ,
@Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world avatar

Potatoes, nature’s mockery.

systemglitch , to lemmyshitpost in Expertise

I find humour in the “clear peer review” part. I’ll take that with a grain of salt.

lugal , to memes in potatoes are fruit

The Onion: Am I a joke to you?

Hupf ,

Yes. Satire, to be precise.

byroon , to lemmyshitpost in Expertise

Sometimes it is bullshit.
arstechnica.com/…/scientists-aghast-at-bizarre-ai…

Like callouscomic said, sometimes academics are incentivised to churn out bullshit

GiveMemes ,

A better example is the Stanford prison experiment. Guy purposely put cruel bullies as the “guards” and more submissive participants as the “prisoners” to sway the study preemptively. Not to mention all the funky things people do with collected data. This isn’t to say that when somebody with no expertise in a field doesn’t understand a study that that study is bs tho, and I’ll admit this is a fine line to walk as many pseudoscientists and crackpot theorists are created this way.

preasket , to lemmyshitpost in Expertise

You know, the guy on the internet might have also been doing stuff all that time

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

nah it’s fair in all my life I’ve never once done anything. I’ve not even logged onto the internet ever

SkabySkalywag , to lemmyshitpost in Expertise

The only bullshit I see is the 3 years for a PhD. How the hell did you pull that off;)

Fallenwout , (edited ) to lemmyshitpost in Expertise

They forgot:

Lab gets subsidized by company xyz

Alter perception of data in favor of xyz

Publish article praising xyz, and dissolve them from negativity.

Guy on the internet: bullshit

KISSmyOS , to lemmyshitpost in Expertise

The worst part is when that guy’s right.

Maggoty ,

Yup. They forgot that sometimes what’s actually happening in that one line is-

  • Go to School for a Bachelor’s Degree
  • Get 10 years working experience in specific field
  • Watch researcher whose never stepped outside of a lab make assertion counter to real life.
  • Call Shenanigans
  • Watch the findings go nowhere
TimewornTraveler , to lemmyshitpost in Expertise

Well, sometimes there’s another step missing just before the Bullshit: “Use the small, narrow findings to inform a greater narrative beyond the data’s scope”

Wogi ,

I love how all the comments in this thread are like “yeah but it is bullshit tho!”

TimewornTraveler ,

Well I’d like to think I’m not! I wanted to point to an actually dubious thing where we might call into question a study, so we could still respect the work being done while validating the importance of standards in research.

You’re right though that it’s disappointing how many responses seem to address only the flaws in modern science and not acknowledge the strength of the scientific process. I think a big part of it does come down to how scientific findings are interpreted and reported to the public, and even further an all-too-human misunderstanding of epistemic limitations. Our cultures should spend more time educating people about the limits of knowledge and fact, how they are constrained by other flawed systems, etc. That would be a half-decent start, if we could only fix the entire reporting problem too.

Thank you for pointing this out.

callouscomic , to lemmyshitpost in Expertise

To be fair, journal articles and scientific research in general have gotten to be pretty bullshit. Haven’t they studied this and proven the vast majority of published journal papers probably shouldn’t have been?

A couple easily Google examples of discussion regarding scientific publications likely being bullshit.

Why Most Published Research Findings Are False

Surge in number of ‘extremely productive’ authors concerns scientists

Too much academic research is being published

More than 10,000 research papers were retracted in 2023 — a new record

Whistleblowers flagged 300 scientific papers for retraction. Many journals ghosted them

Top 10 most highly cited retracted papers

And on and on. Publish or perish and general shitty culture in academia is why I quit phd and took my masters and left.

Track_Shovel OP ,

I saw a clip on how kids out of uni don’t believe anything not peer reviewed; even intuitive observations in nature that otherwise undocumented or site specific observations that went against the grain.

Science is a way of thinking and observing, rather than papers, but papers are a good way to refine your thinking

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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In theory, a paper gives you a methodology that you can use to reproduce the findings. And a refusal to use papers to repeat findings (because shit costs money and nobody wants to publish iterative studies) means you end up with a bunch of novel findings that are never confirmed through repetition.

But the fact that nobody is bothering to repeat these studies also raises a question of what exactly is being researched. Certainly, the more useful scientific research efforts are about formulating applicable techniques. So they would need to be reproducible to have any functional value.

The fact that we’re not seeking to replicate studies suggests that we’re investing a ton of time in niche under-utilized fields. And that may be a problem of investigative research (we’re so focused on publishing that we don’t care what we’re actually studying) or a problem of applied sciences (we’re so focused on scaling up older methods to industrial scale that we’re leaving better methods of production on the cutting room floor).

But its definitely some kind of problem.

Maggoty ,

The problem is without peer reviewed papers it’s hard to credit that someone all the way around the world observed something.

In a perfect world nobody is lying and everyone has the scientific base education to understand how to report phenomena properly. But uhhh… Yeah.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

TBF I’ve lost count of the number of times someone has cited some paper as a reference for the point they are trying to make and when I inspect the paper it has shitty “n”, the paper is written for an agenda (not sure what that’s called where I.e. a paper saying smoking is good for you/not harmful is paid for by the tobacco industry and written by tobacco industry scientists), or it might even just be straight up bullshit written to look like a legit paper.

Peer Review at least offers some barriers to the problems with papers, but it’s definitely not a panacea.

duffman ,

I’m guessing not all hypotheses receive the same interest or funding to begin with. Definitely seems to be a selection bias on what actually gets funded/studied. Even worse, when they withhold results they don’t like from being published.

Blackmist , to lemmyshitpost in Expertise

Obligatory Stewart Lee clip: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzOv14fA-BI

baseless_discourse , to lemmyshitpost in Expertise

Yeap, that sounds like my reviewers :(

AVincentInSpace , to memes in So that's what the different versions of emojis are for

Facebook and WhatsApp are both owned by Meta – why on Earth do they use two different emoji fonts?

vox ,
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formerly Facebook*

AVincentInSpace ,

Meta is the name of the company. Facebook is the product made by the company. I acknowledged that in the comment you’re replying to.

ElPussyKangaroo ,

Facebook and WhatsApp were separate apps until Facebook bought WhatsApp. That’s why there’s so much difference in the design language, functionality, etc.

Zerush , to memes in So that's what the different versions of emojis are for
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