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PissinSelfNdriveway , to piracy in All walls must come down. Even paywalls.

You can usually get around them by clicking link and immediately turning your phones airplane mode on.

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Steeve ,

It’s a bit annoying how for so long people agreed that Twitter was basically a hellhole

This was the sentiment on Reddit because it’s an anti-“every other social media” echo chamber, but it definitely wasn’t the overall sentiment of Twitter before Musk took over.

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Diprount_Tomato ,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

You ever heard something positive of twitter? Afaik not even the users like it

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squiblet ,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

On Twitter, yes. There were tons of people for whom that was their only social media and they thought it was great. Not so much love for the admin as the community of course, and generally people were fine with the software.

Steeve , (edited )

If you build it people will complain, and engineers have always complained about the product they own/built. We also tend to lump communities by the worst subset of it’s members. Facebook: racist boomers, Instagram: Fake influencers, Reddit: Angry nerds, 4Chan: Really angry racist nerds. It’s just human nature to focus on the bad in general. Twitter actually used to be widely well received overall (especially when they added in those fact checks that Musk removed). Calling it a “hellhole” is subjective and was not the opinion of the overall population until it actually went to shit, otherwise it wouldn’t have been the preferred platform for many politician and news outlets world-wide.

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Steeve ,

Woah I never said it was great lol, there is no hidden utopia corner of the internet, I just think calling it widely considered a hellhole is incorrect.

Lenins2ndCat ,
@Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

It wasn’t just a Reddit sentiment.

You’re right, it was also a 4chan and far right sentiment.

What you’re missing here is just how significant the right wing narratives are on reddit.

chickenwing ,

Yeah your a mean fascist if you don’t like Instagram. Lmao.

AaronMaria ,

I heard a lot of this sentiment on YouTube too, before Musk took over. I don’t think this was exclusive to Reddit.

FlyingSquid , to technology in Musk's new idea
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Why is Musk obsessed with the letter X anyway? It’s like he saw two lines and said, “this is the pinnacle of mankind!”

Jase ,
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  • const_void ,

    Is this the guy you’re talking about?

    imgur.io/gallery/fxLibz2

    WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,
    PipedLinkBot ,

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    Gerula , to technology in Musk's new idea

    Well we definitely did that when he entered the story. Not that before Twitter was more than a venom riddled shouting platform but all hope was lost when this conman bought it …

    Zyratoxx , to technology in Musk's new idea
    @Zyratoxx@kbin.social avatar

    "The bird is freed" ...

    ~ 9 months later:
    The bird is dead

    tony , to technology in Musk's new idea

    Has he deleted all his tweets since 2022 or is twitter just more broken than usual?

    https://lemmy.hoyle.me.uk/pictrs/image/7fde87d3-813b-4b9c-ab84-52fe8103b29a.png

    youthinkyouknowme ,
    IndianaJones , to piracy in All walls must come down. Even paywalls.

    I've always been using https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome, works great

    jsveiga , to technology in Musk's new idea

    Since his acquisition shenanigans started, I felt like that was like a spoiled billionaire kid who didn’t get the reverence he thought he deserved from a waiter, then proceeded to buy the restauran chain just to close it.

    zeppo ,
    @zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

    Also, “this restaurant serves people who like food I don’t like. I’ll buy it and then they must order what I prefer from now on”

    sundrei ,
    @sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Musk is so addicted to Twitter (or whatever they end up calling it) that he bought it to ensure he would never be banned. So it’s like he bought the restaurant, fired the staff, put shit on the menu, and none of it matters to him because he still gets to sit at his favorite table and no one can tell him to leave.

    gapbetweenus , to technology in Musk's new idea

    He will call it shitter or something.

    MonorailPanda , to piracy in All walls must come down. Even paywalls.

    Thank you, I’ve added it to my ublock

    mrgreyeyes , to technology in Musk's new idea

    All the employees left are just doing what he says without any questions. It’s becoming malicious compliance and I love it.

    “You want our recognizable blue bird to be replaced by an X?.. You’re the boss!!”

    anlumo ,

    He fired everyone who tried to question him on the spot, sometimes even by public tweets.

    dragontamer ,

    Except that one guy who had a long-term contract with Twitter. He was threatened to be fired by Musk. Then he showed off a huge $hundred-million portion of his contract if he were ever laid off or fired, and suddenly Elon Musk treated him with a lot of kindness and respect online.

    anlumo ,

    Did that guy actually take back his job? Since he already got the firing in writing, I’d totally have run with it.

    thorbot , to piracy in All walls must come down. Even paywalls.

    I just tried this on the first article I could click on for my local news page. It doesn’t work, just shows the article snippet like 13 times

    30021190 ,

    Try archive.ph

    Hubbelini , to technology in Musk's new idea

    I hope he replaces the bird with a checkmark.

    Haibane , to technology in Musk's new idea

    Imagine spending 44 billion dollars to buy an unprofitable service and then announcing a year later that you are rebranding and ditching the IP you paid 44 billion dollars for. Madman genius or dude with toilet water in his cranium?

    Hazdaz ,

    He’s worth $240B.

    Him spending $44B on Twitter is similar to someone worth $100k spending $18k on a car or a house remodel or something. Its proportionally a decent amount of money, but it’s not gonna break him if he totally loses it all.

    Haibane ,

    You have no clue how much money that is. “It’s like buying a car”. This is a joke, right?

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    But it will humiliate him, and that’s the only way to hurt him.

    Hazdaz ,

    I’m sure the rest of his $200B will make him feel better.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Money can’t make you happy. And he doesn’t act like he’s a happy person as it is.

    Hazdaz ,

    I think money can help a whole hell of a lot of people find and fund happiness.

    zeppo ,
    @zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

    He doesn’t seem to be trying that hard to not totally fuck Twitter, though.

    maynarkh ,

    Yeah but he took loans from the billionaire equivalent of loansharks to buy it.

    original_ish_name ,

    Its networth, not cash. $240B in stonks can fluctuate very often

    zeppo ,
    @zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh no, they might dip severely and he’ll only have $60B or as a little as $10 billion!

    His problem seems to be more cash flow. As a prominent shareholder and executive, he can’t sell large amounts of his stocks without PR and legal risk. He could do what people like Bill Gates do and sell them slowly on a set schedule, though.

    sol ,

    they may even fluctuate up, especially if you own a bunch of monopolies backed by the goverment

    dbilitated ,
    @dbilitated@aussie.zone avatar

    he has that much in stock, he doesn’t have that much cash. he also has to make huge payments on what he borrowed to buy twitter so that may affect cashflow and then value of his other companies…

    sol ,

    Not having that much in cash is a good way to not pay more taxes. If any of his stock is valued 1 cent less than what it’s supposed to be worth in the stock market i’m down to buy all of them.

    anlumo ,

    No, the reason it’s not going to break him is that Twitter took on the loan, not himself.

    valkyre09 ,

    Hold on…. You’re saying I can take out a loan for $x amount of dollars against a company I don’t own yet and buy it with that money?

    if I take out a mortgage for a property before I buy it and I destroy the house; the bank still comes after me for the value.

    Am I being stupid or is the game more rigged than I thought?

    zaph ,
    @zaph@lemmy.world avatar

    if I take out a mortgage for a property before I buy it and I destroy the house; the bank still comes after me for the value.

    There’s a type of insurance for everything.

    anlumo ,

    if I take out a mortgage for a property before I buy it and I destroy the house; the bank still comes after me for the value.

    Only if it was destroyed intentionally.

    Of course, it could be argued that Musk is destroying Twitter intentionally, but that’s for a court to decide.

    Buffalox , (edited )

    Hold on…. You’re saying I can take out a loan for $x amount of dollars against a company I don’t own yet and buy it with that money?

    Yes

    I take out a mortgage for a property before I buy it and I destroy the house; the bank still comes after me for the value.

    Not the same, a house can’t be a legal person, the owner is the legal person of the house. The money Musk borrowed in twitter is owed by twitter, not by Musk. To do the same with a house, you need to do it through a company.

    That is possible because companies can have limited financial responsibility, meaning the money they owe are not owed by their owners.

    It’s a pretty nifty arrangement, to help the rich stay rich no matter what happens.

    Am I being stupid or is the game more rigged than I thought?

    We are stupid for not being rich enough, and still allowing the rich unfair advantages.

    squiblet ,
    @squiblet@kbin.social avatar

    That's what bankruptcy is for. Twitter files bankruptcy, and they can officially tell the banks to stuff it.

    dragontamer ,

    Not quite. The the $33 Billion of equity Elon Musk put up junior to the $13 Billion loan.

    That means that if the company starts at $44 Billion then falls to $15 Billion, then Twitter still owes $13 Billion, but Elon Musk only has $2 Billion now.

    Leveraged buyouts are… well… levered. It grossly increases the risk of losing everything.

    Prandom_returns ,

    Elizabeth Holmes was “worth” 4.5B, now I’m worth more than her.

    That’s the life of frauds. One day you’re a billionaire, the next day you’re in jail with 0.

    sol ,

    With the difference that a car is not the second most popular social network in the world and a big business

    volodymyr , to piracy in All walls must come down. Even paywalls.

    Freedom of information should be a human right, it allows to build consensus crucial for social cohesion. A bit like open access in academia, which is getting more traction recently. But unless this right is guaranteed stealing from authors destroys knowledge industry as such. Except that maybe it helps to transform predatory business models.

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