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Turd_Ferg , to memes in The Extra Mile
@Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works avatar

One of my 1st employers had “extra mile” coupons. Originally worth 7.50 in store credit, then 5, then they disappeared. This was a company that was charging 6 dollars for asparagus water.

Track_Shovel OP ,

Asparagus water?

Turd_Ferg ,
@Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works avatar

yea just throw some leftover asparagus in some water and see if yuppies buy it for 6 bucks (16oz).

Track_Shovel OP ,

Asparagus is expensive - I got a 6 pack of NoName hotdogs that’s been in my fridge for over a month- brb…

Turd_Ferg ,
@Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works avatar

Do you have any starfish and chocolate, per chance?

JasonDJ ,

hwhat.

SanndyTheManndy , to memes in The Extra Mile

If you see me going the extra mile, it’s probably the side-effects of me using the company’s resources to learn and do crazy experiments for my own gain.

DigiDemiFiend , to lemmyshitpost in Sit up straight, damnit

Fuck you spiderman, you’re not my real dad!

TheObviousSolution , to memes in The Extra Mile

It depends on the company and how they treat your job, but mostly as a worker you are there to fulfill a company’s requirement. Unless there’s a position or incentive to go that extra mile, don’t, most companies will never see it. Even if you want to do the extra work for yourself, I’d recommend to find a way to do it as a hobby if it’s unrewarded, separate from work.

What they will see is the absence in case they do need it, and then they will be required to fulfill it, although they may not want to focus on better and more empowered workers with higher expectations and may instead just focus on quantity over quality by hiring more people to fill it. Even worse, don’t be the guy who makes his (and other’s) jobs obsolete to scummy bosses.

Open your eyes, you aren’t in school, you aren’t getting rewarded for better grades at work unless they make it part of the business and your bosses stick to it and not just plugging in friends, buddies, and associates.

Pantsofmagic , to memes in Chat Apps

A chat app for every friend and a launcher for every game. We live in a utopia.

Crashumbc , to memes in Chat Apps

And other countries don’t understand why US users stick to txt/mms… Its convenient and built into the phone so everyone has it.

DragonTypeWyvern , to memes in Chat Apps

Friends don’t make friends install chat apps (besides Signal)

SundryTornAsunder ,

Not sure why you were downvoted. I’ve successfully made most of my friends, and my mom for that matter, talk to me on Signal.

toastal ,

The comment implies Signal is peak chat when it’s flawed & other than maybe onboarding, isn’t superior to alternatives—with the phone number being a pro for onboarding is a con for privacy. It still requires you have an Android or iOS primary device (fueling that duopoly). They don’t want you installing it from a safer space like F-Droid. They still by default send notification metadata to Google & Apple (websocket support exists but drains a fair amount of battery & they refuse to support UnifiedPush). They still ship/use Apple emoji on Android & Linux. It’s still a centralized system you can’t self-host. They still have that missing part of the source code (where I would assume the feds planted something). It still isn’t a good space large chats. And the Electron desktop apps are far too bloated.

SundryTornAsunder ,

And the Electron desktop apps are far too bloated.

No argument. Electron is categorically silly in its own right, lol.

They don’t want you installing it from a safer space like F-Droid.

F-Droid is by no means safe; use Droidify.

They still by default send notification metadata to Google & Apple (websocket support exists but drains a fair amount of battery & they refuse to support UnifiedPush).

Easy: use the FOSS version of Molly instead of the default Signal app.

JohnDoe ,

Hi, could you touch on why F-Droid is less safe? Is it because they package (I think that’s the term?) stuff themselves?

SundryTornAsunder , (edited )

Certainly.

To answer your question: yeah, pretty much.

I got all of this information, originally, through this guy’s channel (Side Of Burritos on YouTube):

  1. www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzpVI4zaso0
  2. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAbgeJau3eE
  3. www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFz57zNR_M0

It’s also worth mentioning that part three of that series ended up directly inspiring another project called Obtanium, which he then did a video on here:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiN37bn0OE8

flubba86 ,

Signal is the best, but no way I’m going to be able to get my wife, my friends, my parents and in-laws to use it.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Have you considered emotional blackmail?

flubba86 ,

No, I haven’t reached that point yet.

Colour_me_triggered ,

Do yo need a wife, friends, parents, or in-laws?

Pixel ,

Can’t even get your wife on it? Damn…

cheese_greater , to memes in Chat Apps

As a new player in the BFF market, Imma need you to add Threema to that spread

Not really, Signals cool and buttery smooth and also the gold standard

ChowJeeBai , to memes in Chat Apps

Thanks apple!

kwirky ,

Guessing you weren’t around when MSN, AIM, IRC, ICQ, Yahoo! Messages and Skype were at the height of their popularity.

ChowJeeBai ,

I was, and I ignored all of them, and I texted everyone with sms. No problems back then because standards, unlike now.

JIMMERZ , to memes in Chat Apps

I have a friend that will only chat with me on Instagram. I have his number, but he will never respond to text. He only engages in insta, it’s mildly infuriating.

ALostInquirer ,

…Have they ever explained why?

terminhell , to memes in Chat Apps

I’ma just use my smart phone to, make a call. Or send a letter in the mail. I’m not about to do this lol.

zeekaran , to memes in Chat Apps

Schildichat > Element

tsugu OP ,
@tsugu@slrpnk.net avatar

Yeah I’m using Schildi at the moment as well. Thought since it’s a fork of Element, and most people recognize its logo, I featured it instead.

CubitOom ,

I have to try that again. Last one I tried it it had some issues.

KDE’s NeoChat is pretty solid too

KillingTimeItself , to memes in Chat Apps

i really fucking hate discord.

Why does EVERYTHING have to be proprietary. Fucking capitalism.

MxM111 ,

Don’t like it - don’t use it. It’s a free (capitalist) country.

KillingTimeItself ,

that’s the cool thing, i dont, but you know who does? You, and you know how i would need to contact you? Through discord! Uh oh!

MxM111 ,

I don’t use discord

KillingTimeItself ,

damn didn’t know you weren’t all of my other friends.

JohnDoe ,

I think they wanted to be, they were advertising themselves!

someguy3 ,

I don’t get why people like it either. It’s a mess of chats.

Jarix ,

Gamers using it for gaming. In game Voice communication is trash

deathbird ,

And that’s fine, but why do gamers use it over any other VoIP option? And why the infinity chat channels over infinity servers?

Resonosity ,

Content creator branding, and “community”

ZoeyBear ,

Because it’s the standard for gaming. I use it and would drop it in a heartbeat if it wasn’t standard for every mmo out there.

Jarix ,

Its pretty amazing for voice communication in gaming.

As a messenging app? Meh

KillingTimeItself ,

dude discord has been one of the worst experiences for voip in gaming IME. I started using mumble SOLELY because discord was actually just disappointing. Though tbf maybe if i paid out the ass for nitro it’s better? I ain’t paying for that though.

Though yeah, for messaging, it’s dogshit, It’s a mess.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

A funny advice I will give is recommending you and your friends use noise cancelling audio gear. It will help regardless of the platform.

KillingTimeItself ,

this is honestly the only good thing about discord, the krisp noise reduction is actually kind of good. It only took them like 3 years to implement it on the linux client. And we’ve only had system wide noise filtering since the dawn of time.

Although since we’re on the topic, discord manages input/output in the single most inconceivably stupid manner possible.

kate ,

On Linux I use an app called NoiseTorch that creates a virtual mic to cut out background noise in any application

KillingTimeItself ,

i messed with noisetorch for a bit, it seemed interesting, and worked pretty well. Nothing beats push to talk though tbh.

0x2d ,

i get much better call quality in telegram

Xttweaponttx ,

I really wanted to keep faith in it after the ui overhaul recently - VoIP performance was SO much better on Xbox, latency specifically. But good GOD the mobile app is just a pile of garbage nowdays. I have so many friends stuck on that platform, I still end up sharing links there to Lemmy memes and like 60% of the time when I share to the app it permenantly sticks on the splash screen??? 🙄 notifications are fucked these days too, myself & my friend group regularly miss messages entirely, even with direct @ mentions?!

Worse, I dropped a crap review and complained that function has dropped horribly since the update and the devs INSTANTLY replied like “Have you tried pretending you’re a beta tester for us? Do you mind doing a buncha troubleshooting you definitely haven’t already done?” (They wanted me to reinstall the app… Smh)

Anyway - fuck discord. I’m planning to shift to Revolt, but if anyone has better suggestions I’d be happy to try some!

KillingTimeItself ,

im genuinely surprised discord even tries testing things on the two test branches they have. Yes, you heard me correctly, they have TWO separate testing branches. Bugs literally should not exist on the stable branch.

also when it comes to voip, i’ve enjoyed mumble, it’s pretty solid, minimal, configurable (highly integrated into games already, it’s old af though so maybe not new games) and works pretty well. Revolt seems alright, but it’s plagued with bugs, and weird issues, plus it’s self hosting is just, jank.

We could use a self hosted discord replacement tbh.

TheDarksteel94 ,

Reject Discord, go back to Teamspeak

KillingTimeItself ,

i would fuck with ts if they would release ts5 and have an actual feature release, until then mumble it is. Shit slaps, and is minimal.

arran4 , to memes in Chat Apps

Matrix with bridges can help consolidate them. Some managed versions exist like Beeper and Element. Been slowly moving to that. Will eventually self host.

jenny_ball ,
@jenny_ball@lemmy.world avatar

they are beasts to set up self host. I’m going to do it one day

CubitOom ,

Matrix via docker is pretty simple actually.

Took me like 30 mins to set it up exactly like I wanted on my kubernetes cluster.

jenny_ball ,
@jenny_ball@lemmy.world avatar

oh yeah? can you point me to tutorials or examples? i tried the official github but got a little overwhelmed.

CubitOom ,

Would you like docs on just the docker component or a kubernetes centered doc?

jenny_ball ,
@jenny_ball@lemmy.world avatar

docker please. i got overwhelmed with all the fields that need to be set up.

CubitOom ,

I have not tried it. But this doc seems to make sense and isn’t very opinionated.

computingforgeeks.com/run-synapse-matrix-homeserv…

One of the aspects that is glossed over in this doc however is the networking parts. There are many ways to setup your DNS, certificates, and ingress depending on how/where you are hosting the container.

jenny_ball ,
@jenny_ball@lemmy.world avatar

that’s really good thank you!

banneryear1868 ,

Used a self hosted matrix with element for years now it’s solid. Have a friend group who uses it for everything with dedicated channels etc.

Pantherina , to memes in Chat Apps

Add SimpleX and Converations-i2p

CubitOom ,

Yep SimpleX works great. Although every time I read the name I think of herpes.

Pantherina ,

Hahaha, SimpleX on Android is fine, the Desktop client is kinda incompatible with anything (no flatpak, the ubuntu version is kinda broken, no repo, their sync requires a random firewall port to be open)

CubitOom ,

Interesting. For my desktop, I just installed a binary from the AUR and it works wonderfully.

Pantherina ,

Yeah I avoid installing stuff to my system but I looked into RPM .spec files and that should be possible too. Flatpak would be the way to go though.

CubitOom ,

Personally, I do the opposite. I try to avoid flatpaks and the like. And the AUR enables that really well

Pantherina ,

Welcome to security I guess

CubitOom ,

Security is a compromise between convenience and safety.

However, simply using flatpaks isn’t inherently more secure than using a binary or compiling from source. But it can make it easier to be secure for people that don’t want to manage their own sandboxes.

It’s also easier for devs so they only have to make one version of their app which in theory should work on all systems. But in practice I find it doesn’t always work that way

Pantherina ,

The AUR is not verified or audited at all, isnt it? So you need to check every release if that script was modified to download something malicious. For sure this works somehow, but idk how.

And sandboxing… flatpak has GUI tooling unlike anything else. Bubblejail is usable.

CubitOom ,

From a maximum security perspective, you should be checking all the code you install on your computer. No matter if it is foss, audited by some group, or proprietary (if possible). What would stop a bad actor from auditing malicious code and approving it?

As for sandboxing, there’s multiple options, not the least of which is containerization.

Again, security is a compromise. More security normally comes at some cost just as less security does.

But back to the topic of the post. You are complaining that SimpleX doesn’t work when installed though a flatpak (because one doesn’t exist). So perhaps it’s not a good software to rely on flatpaks for. Unless you choose to only install software via flatpaks, to which I’d say that’s admirable but also perhaps needlessly limiting. Either way it’s your choice, but I would suggest some open mindedness of options that may let you use the software you want.

Pantherina ,

Yeah I tried the ubuntu version through Distrobox, which is way more secure. But they have no repo, and it broke apt lol.

Appimages are completely insecure, there are literally no updates. Its a random bundle of libraries, as old as possible to work on every old kernel, and they are just broken by design (see an old post of mine).

There is flatpak packaging work done and I want to learn that and help, as Flatpak is just the best.

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