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DontMakeItTim , to news in (OFFICIAL) Spanish court starts new probe against Shakira for alleged tax fraud

Put those hips under oath.

MoonshineDegreaser ,
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Dammit! You beat me to it! Take my upvote

MoonshineDegreaser , to news in Wagner mercenaries and Belarus hold military exercises near Poland's border
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Why we always gotta pick on Poland?

Kolanaki , to worldnews in No word from North Korea on US soldier who dashed across military border
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That’s a good way to get blown up by mines, ain’t it?

SheeEttin ,

Not in Panmunjom.

gravitas_deficiency , to worldnews in Wagner mercenaries and Belarus hold military exercises near Poland's border

Luka’s gonna find out real goddamn quick if he fucks around on the border too much.

d4rknusw1ld , to worldnews in Wagner mercenaries and Belarus hold military exercises near Poland's border

Don’t fuck with Poland… unless you want to be brought back to the Stone Age. Poland is just looking for the smallest type of aggression to not only bring the might of NATO with them; but they hate Russia. They will crush you, pringles.

bioemerl , to worldnews in Johnson & Johnson sues researchers who linked talc to cancer

We desperately, above all other issues, need to resolve the fact that big companies can win in court simply by paying until the other guy can't afford to keep dealing with the legal system.

Raphael ,
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We desperately, above all other issues, need to resolve the fact that big companies can win in court simply by paying

In the Soviet Union, capital punishment was carried out by various methods, including firing squads, hanging, and later, the use of a single gunshot to the back of the head. These methods were employed for different periods throughout the Soviet Union’s history, depending on the prevailing laws and policies.

bioemerl ,

I'll take our current system over the Soviet one every day of the week. Not starving and not living under an evil dictatorship beats an unfair court system.

Raphael ,
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bioemerl ,

The inefficiencies created by the Soviet system will lead to yet another round of famine and other problems that will make those stats in your infographic look cute.

Go try your perfect world economic system propaganda on someone else who is dumb enough to buy it.

Tak ,
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“My guess at the future will make your facts about the now irrelevant because I’m smart”

bioemerl ,

The Soviet Union existed in the past. Their policies resulted in famine.

Raphael ,
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War resulted in famine.

bioemerl ,

War resulted in famine my ass.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1930%E2%80%931933

And famine is just the start. If you think any government is competent enough to handle the orchestration of a system is large and complicated as a modern economy you are hilariously mistaken.

I wouldn't even know where to start. Basically every single item in your house runs through some sort of supply chain that would get fucked up if we tried to manage them all through some central planned economy.

Raphael ,
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Same page:

Slaughter of livestock

During collectivization, the peasantry was required to relinquish their farm animals to government authorities. Many chose to slaughter their livestock rather than give them up to collective farms. In the first two months of 1930, kulaks killed millions of cattle, horses, pigs, sheep, and goats, with the meat and hides being consumed and bartered. In 1934, the 17th Congress of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) reported that 26.6 million head of cattle and 63.4 million sheep had been lost.[68] In response to the widespread slaughter, the Sovnarkom issued decrees to prosecute “the malicious slaughtering of livestock” (Russian: хищнический убой скота).[69]

Resistance

Thousands of Kazakhs violently resisted the collectivization campaign with weapons left over by the white army with 8 rebellions occurring in 1930 alone. [97] In the Mangyshlak Peninsula 15,000 rebels resisted between 1929 and 1931.

Also

Some kulaks responded by carrying out acts of sabotage such as killing livestock and destroying crops intended for consumption by factory workers

They fought against collectivization thinking something would happen. They unleashed a famine upon themselves.

EDIT: This part is so ridiculous I need to repeat it:

reported that 26.6 million head of cattle and 63.4 million sheep had been lost.

So much milk lost, could have fed so many people, you can bet there were millions of chickens too, millions of eggs that were never laid, kill the cattle, kill the natural cycle of reproduction, tonnes and tonnes of meat that were never born.

Some reactionaries BURNED FARMS to oppose communism, no wonder they starved.

bioemerl , (edited )

You do a very good job cherry picking, but all of these things together couldn't starve a nation.

At the end of the day what killed the Soviet Union was the fact that they.

  1. Created a system or the people producing the food weren't making shit and had no incentive to actually work.
  2. Opted to try to blame rich people instead of their own shitty system for causing the famine.
Raphael ,
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Killing millions of cattle and burning crops couldn’t starve a nation, hmm. OK, supremacist.

bioemerl ,

The cattle part could could cause shortages, but at the end of the day when you don't have cattle you can still feed people perfectly fine.

You won't get to eat nearly as much meat, but you can still eat.

I'm mainly referring to the fact that you're trying to blame the rebellion from the evil rich people for the cause of the famine instead of the very real economic misincentices created by the Soviet Union

Raphael ,
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Burning crops, how many times do I need to repeat this part. They were also actively sabotaging collective farms.

bioemerl ,

And how many times do I have to repeat this part? The amount of sabotage going on was almost certainly not enough to cause mass famine.

Mass famine would require mass action. If there was enough rebellion to starve the country, it would have deposed the Soviet Union entirely.

The maximum number on the people actually having rebellions was what? 150,000? That's nothing.

No, the famine was caused by misaligned economic incentives which fucked the entire system.

Also don't forget that a very similar famine resulted from mao trying the same shit. This is not a uniquely Soviet phenomenon.

Raphael ,
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Millions of… millions of cattle killed.

Mao’s famine was caused by killing birds, because he did not listen to science. We must always listen to science. That thing could’ve happened if China were a Christian Theocracy. There have been countless famines in history but you only care about communist ones.

bioemerl ,

Mao’s famine was caused by killing birds, because he did not listen to science.

You're missing about 10 other bad decisions in there, and you'll never guess what those 10 decisions were related to.

Millions of… millions of cattle killed.

Again. If we killed all the animals right now in every country in the world we would have....

More food.

Animals eat food. They provide less than they eat, so if you took all the food that would have gone towards cattle and instead put them towards humans, you'd see people eating more, not less.

I'm not totally going to say that that wasn't a factor, but at the end of the day the famine in the Soviet Union still had a root cause.

Say it with me and say it again.

Shitty misaligned economic incentives.

Tak ,
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Dinosaurs existed in the past. Their policies resulted in no shelter from asteroids. Therefore we need all available effort to go towards asteroid protection now. Forget that hunger and famine only exists in the now because we let it to justify capitalism. We need to worry about what happened in the past.

Above is obviously sarcasm

Using your own rhetoric I could argue that the United States had famines in the past so therefore it will have them again.

bioemerl ,

Dinosaurs existed in the past. Their policies resulted in no shelter from asteroids.

Wat.

Using your own rhetoric I could argue that the United States had famines in the past so therefore it will have them again.

Hah.

You could, if there was a history of famines in America's past. The closest we really got was the dust bowl, and that was never really a famine.

Of course, the possibility is always open with global warming becoming a thing that we could experience some form of famine in the future. However, when it happens it's almost certainly going to be because of global warming cannot because of asinine communist economic decision making that dis encourages people from producing any sort of surplus by imposing state quotas on them.

Forget that hunger and famine only exists in the now because we let it to justify capitalism

In the world? Hunger and famine largely exists because people live in regions with really corrupt governments and no way to produce food locally, it's geopolitical more than economic and there really is no fixing it.

In the United States?

You guys have to use a chart that shows statistics on food insecurity instead of actual lack of access to food because lots of food programs exist and lots of people actually are able to get meals even when they are poor. Actual starvation is very rare in the United States, thanks to things like the snap programs.

The United States has problems to fix, but we seriously have a bigger epidemic of obesity among the poor than starvation.

Tak ,
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Wat.

It’s really not hard to understand you’re not as prophetic as you think you are.

However, when it happens it’s almost certainly going to be because of global warming cannot because of asinine communist economic decision making that dis encourages people from producing any sort of surplus by imposing state quotas on them.

Gee I wonder what economic system is causing global warming.

In the world? Hunger and famine largely exists because people live in regions with really corrupt governments and no way to produce food locally, it’s geopolitical more than economic and there really is no fixing it.

The context was in the US. Why shift the goal post to where you can blame something other than the American oligarchy.

You guys have to use a chart that shows statistics on food insecurity instead of actual lack of access to food because lots of food programs exist and lots of people actually are able to get meals even when they are poor. Actual starvation is very rare in the United States, thanks to things like the snap programs.

Who is “you guys” you even say yourself that obesity is a problem and obesity is a result of food deserts and terrible food programs in the US that stem from subsidized corn.

You’re either trolling or unwilling to actually communicate on these topics at this point.

bioemerl ,

Gee I wonder what economic system is causing global warming.

Oh yes, the Soviet Union, wonderful bastion of green technology and environment.

You blame capitalism for shit that would be happening and would be even worse under other systems. The status quo is Not the fault of capitalism and you can't simply blame the status quo on capitalism without showing that some new system would actually perform better.

Historically, non-capitalist systems are less efficient and pollute more.

Why shift the goal post

Yes, was shifting goalpost by responding to the two possible interpretations of your comment.

you even say yourself that obesity is a problem and obesity is a result of food deserts and terrible food programs in the US that stem from subsidized corn.

Yes.

This isn't.... What do you think you're making a point here for? We should end subsidies on corn in the United States and allow the market to make that decision of what to produce.

That would be more capitalism.

You’re either trolling or unwilling to actually communicate on these topics at this point.

And you're engaging in the age old internet tradition of accusing everyone who disagrees with you as a troll.

Landrin201 ,
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What does that have to do with the conversation being had here?

Also, not that any of this is relevant to the actual topic at hand, but that’s different from the United States… How?

Just this year Idaho approved the firing squad as a means of execution. It joined 4 other states.

We now use the lethal injection, but research is showing that it isn’t painless, it just looks like it is. We used the electric chair for decades, and hanging before that.

Raphael ,
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What does that have to do with the conversation being had here?

Execute the ultra rich, problem ends. No man, no problem.

FiskFisk33 ,

I… what?

theacharnian , to worldnews in Johnson & Johnson sues researchers who linked talc to cancer
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That’s a SLAPP suit.

FiskFisk33 ,

Does the place they sued them in even have SLAPP laws?

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zuhayr , to news in British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak braced for defeats in key elections
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Is UK being a Make a Wish foundation for all those who want to be PM?

reflex , to news in British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak braced for defeats in key elections
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Watch for surprises doe—he's one greasy-looking fuck.

stopthatgirl7 , to news in British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak braced for defeats in key elections
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Well, that headline alone put a little smile on my face.

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Crimea river.

b000urns , to worldnews in No word from North Korea on US soldier who dashed across military border
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up on assault charges while on a foreign posting, flees INTO North Korea, surely the actions of a sane and well-balanced individual /s

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