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Carter , to fediverse in 12 years ago. Wonder what Lemmy will look like in 12 years?

I loved Google+ at the time but I was invested in the Google services ecosystem back then.

ObM , to assholedesign in Raising your price for prime day

One of our jokes for pretty much every sale we see is: “20% off of 50% more”.

gloriousspearfish , to fediverse in Announcing OpenLemmyStats.org: Publicly Queryable Vote History + Other Hidden Data for Any Lemmy User!

Hey, I completely agree with you, in that the most interesting discussions are among groups where I don’t agree with everyone. This is where I learn and grow as a person.

But in saying that, aren’t you also saying that some people, like you and me, would not use such a database to filter out the users we do not agree with?

And would it not be a logical conclusion to make, that people who likes to build and stay in their echo chambers, would not be more inclined to listen to different opinions just because they don’t have a more efficient tool to sort out people they disagree with?

What I am saying is, all information that is technically available will be collected and analysed. Better make a public and open platform showing everything, such that everyone can see exactly what can be collected and surmised from the already public information, than to keep users blind from what information they actually leak publically.

squaresinger , to linux in Usage for Old Notbook

If you have a little cash to spare, I’d recommend upgrading this thing a little bit.

A 480GB SATA 2.5" SSD costs around €22.

8GB of DDR3 can be had for ~€10.

So with maybe €35 of investment (and probably much less if you buy used stuff from your local flea market app) you could make the laptop much faster and much more usable.

Life_inst_bad OP ,

That sounds quite intriguing, I’ll shop around and give you an update!

dojoca ,

Highly recommend installing windows 10 LTSC on it. It’s windows 10, but not fucking awful.

Edit: never mind, I see you already have Ubuntu on it. Good job.

SeeJayEmm ,
@SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org avatar

I want to second this. 2 GB of ram is simply unusable and I’m honestly surprised Windows 8 ran passably well. A min of 8 GB of ram and a small SSD will give it a new lease on life.

npmstart_pray ,

The SSD upgrade is almost critical, and when you install the OS, be sure to include a swap partition (2GB is enough) that functions as a system buffer/parallel & virtual RAM. A bigger RAM chip can’t hurt either. This is exactly what I’ve done for a very similar machine mentioned in another post of this thread.

npmstart_pray ,

The SSD upgrade is almost critical, and when you install the OS, be sure to include a swap partition (2GB is enough) that functions as a system buffer/parallel & virtual RAM. A bigger RAM chip can’t hurt either. This is exactly what I’ve done for a very similar machine mentioned in another post of this thread.

SilverMutant ,

When using an SSD, install the OS with ZRAM instead of swap. This will increase the SSD’s life.

npmstart_pray ,

This Is The Way

squaresinger ,

You won’t believe what a difference any kind of SSD makes.

Life_inst_bad OP ,

I ordered the parts now, a 8gb ram stick (gddr3) and a 520gb ssd for all in all 34€. The parts should arrive in about 2 weeks. Thank you!

squaresinger ,

Nice! Good luck! To find out how to open it, just look for a video on Youtube if it turns out more complicated than expected.

Btw, if you already have it open, cleaning the fans/fan grilles and potentially even repasting the CPU is usually pretty easy to do and on older laptops easily doubles your CPU performance.

Life_inst_bad OP ,

I’ve looked up a video, took it apart, got it all together again. Tried booting it up, paniced for 2 seconds because it couldn’t detect the hard drive anymore, then realised that I had forgotten to plug the drive back in properly (silly me). Opened it up again, got the lill cable back where it belongs and screwed everything together (again). Works like a charm now.

squaresinger ,

Nice! Well done! I do know this feeling of panicˆˆ

Have fun with a now totally usable laptop!

Life_inst_bad OP ,

Allright, my promised update: My Ram finally arrived and I happily put in the 8gb and… It went all south. Horrible boot time, bad performance the whole 9yards. Bios (thank you HP) didn’t even let me change the clockspeed of my ram. Anyways since I wanted to give my Wifes Laptop (her active one) an upgrade anyway I got the 8gb ram in her machine and that one works like a charm (-windows). So I had 4 gb left now (from her machine). Well, I stuck that one in this linux machine and they now play nicely.

So all in all a great success story! Thank you for encouraging me to upgrade it!

Hazdaz , to assholedesign in A light of wholesomeness shining in a bleak dystopian hellscape

Never ever buy an HP printer.

Their hardware is mostly brilliant but the software (drivers, DRM) should make it a stop-sale for most people. It is such a shame that what used to be an incredible engineering company has turned to such shit because of executive incompetence and greed.

LillianVS ,
@LillianVS@lemmy.world avatar

Let’s be honest, probably why the guy was throwing it out lol

Holzkohlen ,

I’m so glad my old HP printer still works. It has none of that bs and I can use MUCH MUCH cheaper refills, which are somehow even filled more than HP’s xl ink cartridges? I want HP to know that I will continue using this printer and they won’t ever see another cent of mine.

yamapikariya , to linux in Usage for Old Notbook
@yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com avatar

Try something like Linux Mint with the Xfce edition. Might be able to lower the RAM a bit more.

jlh ,

Or just xfce on Fedora.

crunchpaste ,
@crunchpaste@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Even if they run only a window manager 2gb if RAM is just not enough for web nowadays.

Recently resurrected a 10-ish year old Lenovo Chromebook-like with an atom CPU and 4gb RAM, running nothing but qtile as a DE and it’s struggling with more than 5 tabs open.

Upgrade the RAM to at least 4gb, preferably 8 and the HDD to SSD.

Also, don’t bother with “lightweight” browsers, in my experience Firefox simply runs much faster.

Life_inst_bad OP ,

Can confirm: after the 6th tab while shopping for upgrades everything went to slow motion.

npmstart_pray ,

Those Atom processors don’t have the power to be much more than an in-car navigation system with MP3 playback. Forget actual web surfing. You’re actually better off with a RasPi imho.

MaoWasRight ,

Dammit, I came in here because I was hoping there was something I could do with my old paperweight. I keep it around cuz it’s cute lol

npmstart_pray ,

It can be cute and still functional in a limited way…

crunchpaste ,
@crunchpaste@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You can do plenty with any old paperweight. The difficult part is thinking if what you need it to do and if that thing is worth the higher electricity usage of older tech.

crunchpaste ,
@crunchpaste@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You can sqeeze plenty of use from these laptops, especially the really light ones.

My gf works as an arts teacher in a primary school and needed something very small and light that she could carry every day to school.

The usage is mostly very light browsing (the school system, some Pinterest), showing the kids some reference images and the ocasional document editing and printing.

For a piece if what essentially is e-waste it handles that admirably, and because of the atom processor it sips power, which still gives it a few hours of battery life after about 10 yeas of ownership.

Tldr: Don’t underestimate how useful an old laptop running a minimal linux disto can be for a casual user.

dojoca ,

I quite like Ubuntu budgie edition.

dunestorm , to fediverse in 12 years ago. Wonder what Lemmy will look like in 12 years?
@dunestorm@lemmy.world avatar

This is why you should never adopt Google services, there’s a high chance they will kill it off given their awful track record.

SadTrain ,

At least they let me turn my Stadia controller into a regular Bluetooth controller ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

Nilz ,

I bought Cyberpunk for Stadia and received a Chromecast Pro and a Stadia controller with it for free. I sold them both which covered the cost of Cyberpunk which later got refunded when Stadia went offline. So I actually made money by using Stadia.

fmwp1lrU ,

I miss my Google music…

explodicle ,

Same reason I don’t get emotionally invested in Fox TV shows.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’ll still grumble about Gifted getting cancelled for the next 80 years /sigh

qwertyqwertyqwerty ,

I think the biggest miss Google had was with Google Wave. It was way ahead of its time, and absolutely crashed and burned at launch because of the invite-only model.

I bought a Google OnHub router, which was amazing. It was marketed as the most “future-proof” router at the time. Then Google made Google WiFi mesh routers around a year later, and OnHub was never marketed or mentioned again. Now, in addition to my already concerning privacy issues around Google services, I don’t trust that they will release quality, supported products.

YoungPrinceAmmon ,

Chromecasts are pretty solid

qwertyqwertyqwerty ,

It’s been a while since I’ve used a Chromecast, but they were always reliable.

Hackwork ,

I threw mine in the trash in less than a month, didn’t even bother trying to resell it and just wanted it gone. What a pile of fucking shit that thing was. I spent more time troubleshooting than watching.

qwertyqwertyqwerty ,

I can’t say I had these problems back when I was using them, but that doesn’t mean much because mine are sitting in a box somewhere and worthless since most TVs and streaming players support it now.

curious_illusions ,

I have a gen 1 Chromecast that I use almost daily, such a beast

narF ,

I heard that Google is about to drop support of their older chromecasts. (You might want to look into this to confirm though)

curious_illusions ,

I hope not!

FightMilk ,

I started reading your comment and thought “please be about Wave” haha. The funniest part about Wave is how they learned no lessons from it.

The invite-only model worked great for Gmail because it was an actual service with real utility and people wanted in (1GB storage was huuuuge). But with social networks, the courting ritual is reversed, because without a critical mass of users the product has no utility.

So what do they do with G+? Invite only 🤦‍♂️

And by then they had something like half the world running Android, with Google accounts… and didn’t just let them in. Youtube should have been a simple “if you want to check out G+, your Youtube account will get you in, otherwise carry on.” Instead they make it invite only and then bully youtubers into registering.

It’s just mind-boggling how little they understood about social networks after building such a wonderful piece of software for it.

Life_inst_bad OP , to linux in Usage for Old Notbook
HikuNoir , to assholedesign in Raising your price for prime day

“Goes up like prices at Christmas” Motorhead

starclaude , to fediverse in 10 days after 3rd party reddit app shutdown, Lemmy's top 10 instances combine for a thriving userbase of 234,000

and how many are those thats are bot ?

ezchili ,

Eh the activity is good enough

2000 upvotes on popular front page posts is like reddit in 2015

jerkface ,
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

and how many are those thats are bot ?

mikko ,

and how many are those thats are bot ?

dlove67 ,

and how many are those thats are bot ?

Senokir ,

How many of the reddit users are bots?

talik ,

Everone except for you

esty ,
@esty@lemmy.ca avatar

As an AI language model, I don’t have the ability to access real time statistics about the user composition of this platform.

jerkface ,
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

So fucking convenient. You get to make up any damn thing you want and then when pressed about it, oh oh, I’m just a poor little language model, citations make my head huwrt. Never met such a punchable AI before, and I remember ELIZA.

77slevin , to fediverse in Dutch government starts own Mastodon instance as reaction to the instability of Twitter

Didn’t the EU do the same shortly after Space Karen bought Twitter? I believe I saw an article around the time I started my Mastodon account.

barsoap ,

social.network.europa.eu

tube.network.europa.eu

Took about two weeks from Musk’s announcement for those instances to show up.

FinancedPizza , to pics in For my first post on a new platform, here's my good boy enjoying a ride

In the TRX? He’s in for the ride of his life!

iso , to linux in My missionary activities are working!
@iso@lemy.lol avatar

Finally a proud material about my country 😅

mfat ,

Is Pardus still a thing, arkadash?

iso ,
@iso@lemy.lol avatar

yes it is but unfortunately its not widely used by govt PCs and i dont want to use it since its from a govt organisation kardeş ;)

018118055 , to internetfuneral in FUCK THIS

Must be somewhere like Hoxton

Drewfro66 , to fediverse in Dutch government starts own Mastodon instance as reaction to the instability of Twitter
@Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml avatar

One of the best parts of this - especially if the trend continues - is that it makes the “Extinguish” part of a possible “Embrace, Expand, Extinguish” attack by Meta’s Threads more difficult.

Cutting off access to a bunch of tiny self-hosted private instances won’t even ping on their radar. But cutting off federation with official government platforms? That’s different.

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