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mikegioia , to programmerhumor in and people wonder why we say PHP is a meme
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Hating on php is one of the reasons i left reddit. This is just people who don’t use php hating php for some reason. You can do dumb examples like this for any language. Low effort and funny for children.

ezchili ,

I used php for 2 years and I hate on it it’s not just people who’ve never used it

mikegioia ,
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no clue what your point is.

nailbar ,

The comment above claimed only people who never used PHP hate on it. The point was a counter claim to that.

mikegioia ,
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Ok I can add another group to my list then: bad php developers

ezchili ,

Good developers don’t get tribal about the tools they use

It makes them able to switch away from them for better ones

I use typescript now

mikegioia ,
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This entire thread is a tribal post that I had a problem with!! You don’t seem to understand this but I don’t care.

ezchili ,

Pointing out what sucks in a language isn’t tribalism, calling people “bad developers” when they don’t like your tool on the other hand, …

ezchili , (edited )

Hard sell. Calling people you know nothing about “bad developers” because they don’t like your tool on the other hand, that was cringe as hell and just made you look like you somehow tied your self-worth to php. “If my tool gets criticized; that means I’m being criticized!”

If you don’t give in to that, you start to see “Oh, that bug wouldn’t have happened if I’d been using [x]” and you become a better developer

When a woodworker cuts iself with a bandsaw, people who do what you do scream “He’s a bad woodworker!”

And while they’re screaming, we invented guardrails

mikegioia ,
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Gotta block you. This is nothing I want any part of.

ezchili , (edited )

Dude who gives a shit to know that

balls_expert ,

level 1: “this argument is worthless because you are stupid!”

level 300: “everyone who hates php is just an idiot tbh”

Just standard discourse from the php community

mikegioia ,
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There are reasons to dislike a language, but there are no reasons to hate a language, certainly not one that is as ubiquitous as PHP. There’s no argument you could make for why someone hates a programming language.

balls_expert ,

Introducing bugs into code way more often than others with similarly skilled programmers is one good reason to hate it…

Heavybell ,
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Hey, I hate php AND javascript, and I’ve worked in both of them. :P

deaf_fish ,

Your feelings are valid. I wonder though, would you put up this level of defense for posts making fun of arbitrary parts of non PHP languages?

You are not your favorite language. And I find most criticisms of most languages to be very valid. I don’t think the intent of OP is to insult all PHP programmers. It’s okay to like a language that has problems. All languages do.

Doug ,

I’d wager prevalence is part of their problem. Jokes get tired after a while, but that doesn’t always mean they stop.

PHP, like any language, has its problems, but it seems to get poked at a lot more often. But making the same joke over and over has been a problem long before reddit was a thing.

mikegioia ,
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PHP gets a totally disproportionate share of hate and that is the problem. Children like to dunk on PHP and a group mentality pushes it even more.

deaf_fish ,

Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn’t. This is the first post I have seen pointing out a flaw in PHP on Reddit or Lemmy. If you ask me JavaScript gets it the worst out of all of the languages. I don’t see those guys whining.

What I will say is that the majority of PHP developers I interact with on this post has led me to believe that there is a number of PHP developers that take things way to personally that they really shouldn’t. Seriously you guys aren’t doing your language any favors. No one’s going to want to join the whine club.

BinarySystem ,

I took this more as a light-hearted poke at a silly edge case. As someone who used to build static analysis software for various languages, including PHP. This gets a chuckle out of me as it takes me back to having to deal with these exact types of edge cases.

mikegioia ,
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The title of this post is calling php a “meme” did you read that part? Then it just uses some stupid ternary example no one does and that other languages exhibit so what is the point other than purely hating on php?

Little8Lost , to memes in This
Jemmy , to memes in This

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SaakoPaahtaa , to pics in an uncommonly beautiful fly

That a horsefly, no?

AttackBunny ,

Pretty sure it’s a Mediterranean fruit fly (Ceratitis capitata).

Horseflies are usually huge, as their name suggests.

Gregorech ,

Yes Mediterranean fruit fly very destructive outside of it’s native habitat.

BROTHERM00N OP ,

I’m in Spain, it was tiny, I imagine that you are correct

AttackBunny ,

I’m in California, they exist here too. They cover a pretty big part of the world, iirc.

BrokebackHampton , to cat in The smirk kills me. He's plotting something, I just know it.
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“Delightfully devilish, Seymour” type of face

sheetmysharts , to mildlyinfuriating in Updated my Samsung phone and it installed unwanted apps
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This is why I don’t buy devices on contract with the carriers anymore. They’re always loading extra crapware that we don’t need.

Compactor9679 ,

Yea… Flashing grapheneOS has been the best I could ever do for my phone

MyFairJulia , to lemmyshitpost in I like the view
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Do we have a San Francisco view over San Francisco too?

sagrotan , to mildlyinfuriating in Updated my Samsung phone and it installed unwanted apps
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Bought a Xiaomi phone, rooted it, loving it, so cheap and still private enough. I’ll just can’t get my head around in spending almost a grand for a freaking phone.

shrugal , to fediverse in Fediverse is 100% Decentralized or not?
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Your right to choose is the same as everybody else’s right to choose. You can decide to post something, and others can decide they don’t want to see it. Decentralized just means there is no one entity to make those decisions for you.

JackbyDev , to youshouldknow in YSK: Cats don't like their whiskers touching their food bowl. This is why they beg even if food is still left at the bottom.

My cat still acts like her bowl is empty even though it is flat, so I’m skeptical.

xodiak ,

I also have a ‘flat’ bowl. My cat isn’t happy with her food until I put some of her food on the floor and watch her eat for a couple of minutes. She is the boss… apparently.

Guildo , to internetfuneral in processing

That’s how rich people go to heaven?

jubilationtcornpone ,

Jesus: “It’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.”

Rich Dude: “Oh yeah? Watch this.”

Jesus: “What the… Good Me almighty…”

SpicyPeaSoup ,
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Blend the rich.

Casmael , to newcommunities in In 24hours, Meme about old memes pushes c/AntiqueMemesRoadShow to 7th largest community with "meme" in the title

I think when you have a meme like that with such obvious provenance, it’s inevitably going to effect the value of other memes in the area. The whole point of this sub is to provide quality, interesting memes with real history and real pedigree. We need to work together to ensure that only the ripest hand-picked memes reach the meme-baskets of our fellow lemmites. X

FlyingSquid , to mildlyinfuriating in Updated my Samsung phone and it installed unwanted apps
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Remember when Apple put a U2 song on everyone’s iPhone and people went nuts about it? How dare they do that! That was just a song.

Now companies just install whatever apps they want. And people just accept it.

slaorta ,

This has been a thing since before smartphones and the U2 stunt though. The PC manufacturers started doing it back in the early 2000s.

FightMilk ,

Yeah Android manufacturers been doing this since its inception. I remember having to remove the Blockbuster app from my Droid X lol

ki77erb ,

Didn’t Windows put a Weezer video on there or am I remembering something wrong?

limelight79 ,

There were some videos on some of the installation CDs…that’s all I remember. I don’t think they were automatically installed on your hard drive, but I could be wrong.

ki77erb , (edited )

Yeah the video for Buddy Holly was on the Windows 95 install disc.

limelight79 ,

I seem to recall one from a woman, too… Ah, yes, I just looked it up - Edie Brickell’s Good Times.

woelkchen ,
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Now companies just install whatever apps they want. And people just accept it.

That’s because the provider subsidizes the phone and people rather have that than to pay >1000 dollars at retail for an unbranded phone.

NorwegianBlues , to programmerhumor in and people wonder why we say PHP is a meme

Sure, it’s counterintuitive, but so is not bracketing things in ternary operations.

akariii ,

that makes so much fucking sense

ezchili ,

You know that programmers of other languages don’t have to find excuses for their tool constantly, right?

rikudou ,

You don’t know many languages, huh?

onichama , to programmerhumor in and people wonder why we say PHP is a meme

Thanks I hate it.

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