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lemmy.world

Drewfro66 , to cat in How may I help you?
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What a gentleman

nepenthes , to cat in How may I help you?

Needs a sign:

"The Doctor is in"

Fafner , to programmerhumor in why why why
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Because no one can agree what way up is!!

reversed95 , to programmerhumor in why why why

It’s called the theory of Gravity after all

Gsus4 , to piracy in preach

Major reason not to buy ebooks from amazon: you can’t lend, give, exchange, sell them and you may lose all of them if you anger the right people. They are not yours, you are not buying them, you merely paid for conditioned access to them.

BeardyGrumps ,

It’s the same with steam games and other online stores. You are granted a licence to use the software; not to own it.

AArun ,

Steam is a glowing example of how to prevent piracy though. Because even if I own the games I can still loan them out. I can play the games across all of my devices. Steam has gone above and beyond to give you a reason to not pirate. I buy my games because the convenience steam provides without hindering my actual ownership of them.

reversed95 , to pics in Life, uh, finds a way...

Better structual integrity compared to most buildings

woomp , to cat in How may I help you?

Those look like puppet arms

Bishma , to mildlyinfuriating in How my fiancé eats Mcnuggets
@Bishma@social.fossware.space avatar

Personally, I try to avoid reminders that my McNuggets were once a vat of pink flesh goo. The breading is an important factor in that.

donnerdinnerparty , to pics in Definitely the coolest Taco Bell I've been to

Is that Pacifica, CA?

Zenbach OP ,

Yup! Such a neat town.

sgriff ,

Oh i love this Taco Bell, thought i recognized it lol

shoop , to memes in Twitter/Threads

Lol except muskrat is a fake free speech absolutionist and will happily censor what he doesn’t agree with

Odusei , to memes in Twitter/Threads

Mandatory reminder that Stonetoss is a Nazi.

GamingChairModel , to fediverse in Announcing OpenLemmyStats.org: Publicly Queryable Vote History + Other Hidden Data for Any Lemmy User!

I don’t think that site would be problematic. After all, we’re just talking about custom interfaces to analyze public data.

A big part of the solution is that users should have an awareness that their activity is public. Every once in a while someone gets burned not knowing that anyone can view what a specific Twitter user or Instagram user liked (like politicians liking risque thirst trap photos).

Another is easy alts and throwaways, with tips to avoid correlations:

  • Don’t use the same verified email address
  • Don’t reuse usernames, including across platforms
  • Try not to use the same instances, such that instance admins can see whether login activity is coming from the same place, unless you absolutely trust that the admins won’t analyze your data OR inadvertently leak their records.
  • Be aware of the techniques used to correlate users: analysis of timestamps, linguistic/grammatical quirks, etc.

This is a public place, so people should be aware that this is a public place. That means they can still find this useful space, as with many other public places, but should be aware that the more they do on this platform, the easier it is to correlate with a real life identity.

GamingChairModel ,

Thinking about this some more, I don’t mean to put everything on the user.

The platform itself, through its design and architecture and settings, should also do stuff to make super detailed analysis more difficult:

  • Don’t log unnecessary metadata, such as views/visits, clicks, scrolls, time spent on specific posts, etc. Information that is never observed/logged can’t be shared/published.
  • Don’t share unnecessary information with other instances. For example, with an update to the protocol, an instance might be able to hide which local users voted for what in local threads, while maintaining the proper count internally of what the vote totals are, who has already voted, etc. Non-local users would have to have their votes publicly known, though.
  • Make the public nature of each action obvious. Make votes more obviously public through the interface (perhaps by allowing people to view who upvoted or downvoted). Make people’s comment history and like history easy to view within the native interface, so that people understand that the information isn’t private to begin with.
  • Commit to deletion in a public, auditable way. Let instance administrators know that being a good citizen on the fediverse requires adherence to norms about privacy and deletion, and have watchdogs publish stats on how long it takes for an instance to delete a comment or vote or whether it retains edit/delete history.
booty_flexx OP ,

Great point and ideas, I hope to see things like this introduced as the lemmy project matures

lily33 ,

That last point is completely impossible. Don’t forget that I don’t have to run the official lemmy software on my instance. I can make changes: for example, I can add a feature to my instance like “log every post in a separate, local database before deleting it from lemmy”. Nobody else but me will know this feature exists. Or (to be AGPL compliant) have a separate tool to regularly back up my lemmy database, undoing deletions.

As for the second point: I’d say making local votes private and non-local public will be worse for privacy due to causing confusion.

booty_flexx OP , (edited )

Those are good practices if you have privacy concerns.

we’re just talking about custom interfaces to analyze public data

Semi-public. As it stands, only instance admins have access to per-user vote data. Possibly also API users, but I’m not sure the lemmy api has an endpoint for exposing per-user vote data, I believe it just gives you a tally of the up/down votes of posts and comments, but not who made each vote. But most people don’t have the skillset to host their own instance and process the data into something meaningful/easy to digest.

You could make the argument that semi-public is basically public, but I think there is some nuance to be explored:

Once a site like open lemmy stats launches, it becomes trivial for any user to query that data, who upvoted what, who downvoted what, when they up/downvoted it, etc.

There’s a difference between something being available to people motivated enough to get it vs it reaching critical mass and being trivial to access by anyone with a browser. How the data is ultimately used, whether it is used nefariously or not, is going to be up to the people that access openlemmystats and what they wish to use it for.

Which has me considering an analogy, without expressly intending to make this political, please consider the statement “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”. “Openlemmystats doesnt harass political dissenters! The people who use it do!”. One could argue that openlemmystats wouldn’t do anything inherently bad, it’s the people who would use it. Just like with guns, there will likely be debate on whether or not the world would be better without openlemmystats or if we should start doing things to make it impossible for openlemmystats-alike sites to exist.

That said, I mostly agree with you, and I appreciate your privacy suggestions/best practices, good stuff!

Edit: for the record, I think “guns don’t kill people, people do” is a stupid statement, but I thought it was an interesting analogy. That is to say nothing of my feelings on gun control, I’m just not a fan of distilling complex issues into dismissive one line statements.

CafecitoHippo , to nostupidquestions in lemmy profile settings: Why should i checkmark both bot accounts boxes?

I believe that “Bot Account” is signaling that the account you’re currently using is being used as a Bot Account. E.g. like a sports gameday bot or an automoderator bot. Just signaling that it is indeed a bot that is doing the posting.

Show Bot Accounts is saying that you want to see posts made by those same said bot accounts.

kevincox , to assholedesign in Starbucks notification settings — only 1: "promotions and order status"
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Easy choice, “Off”

omgarm ,

Start drinking tap water only out of spite.

InfiniWheel ,

Wdym tap water is the shit

glorious_albus ,

Does lemmy have hydrogomies?

InfiniWheel ,

Apparently, yes. !hydrohomies

sulungskwa , to pics in Definitely the coolest Taco Bell I've been to
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Hands down favorite taco bell

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