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FiskFisk33 , to nostupidquestions in Do you think the guys on the titanic submarine will be rescued?

A swedish submarine officer put it bluntly in an interview today, and i paraphrase: "most likely it developed a crack and instantly decompressed like a crushed soda can"

PropaGandalf OP , to newcommunities in The sustainability community on lemmy

The community is currently very empty but I’m sure we can build something great out of it.

ThisIsMyLemmyLogin , to nostupidquestions in Do you think the guys on the titanic submarine will be rescued?
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The only outcome we can be sure of at this point is that the company responsible for this mess is going to have to answer a lot of questions.

JeffCraig ,

And some massive lawsuits to handle.

TurretCorruption ,

I think there already is one. There was a guy working for that company who was fired for whistleblowing after the ceo ignored his safety concerns, and now that employee is going after the company for wrongful termination.

That ceo knew it was dangerous but still decided to drag 4 other people to a watery grave

void_hunter , to cat in Shiro pulled my hoodie onto the back of the desk during the night.
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shiro needs a warm

maggoats , to fediverse in Lemmy's total users exceeds 740k today, up from 540k yesterday

I don’t doubt there’s a great amount of user growth, but it appears that many of those are account creation spam on instances with 1 active monthly user though.

*Edit to add a comment I made on another post*Basically there might be about 200k real users right now including lurkers, growing at a rate of basically 13.5k per day.

ANewUser , to fediverse in Amazing growing on Lemmy!!

I wish my bank account grew like this graph! Sadly, it’s the reverse

solidsnake911 OP ,
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Hahaha facts lmao 😂😂

rist097 , to fediverse in Amazing growing on Lemmy!!

Most of them are bots, I estimate around 200k real users

maggoats ,

I agree, based on these statistics. Prior to the obvious jump in bot-farmed accounts, there were about 162000 active users with an active user proportion of about 0.186 (somewhere around >29000 active users).

Now there are 649k lemmy users and an active user proportion of 0.055 (~35600 according to the dashboard). If we assume those 35600 users represent the pre-bot-farming ratio of 0.186, we get 35600/0.186 or about just over 191000.

That’s still an increase of probably 30k true users, unless the proportion of lurkers have also suddenly drastically increased. I don’t think that’s true, because, pre-bot-farming, when the user base started growing with the Reddit debacle, the proportion of active users increased accordingly. I assume that’s because new users are excited to help grow the community.

Still, in the past two days alone active users went up by over 5k (15%). Maybe that’ll continue exponentially, and there’ll be 95k (500k total non-bot) users two weeks from now, or maybe it’ll continue linearly and there’ll be 70k (~385k) users.

I don’t know why I spent so long thinking about this.

Kantiberl , to nostupidquestions in Do you think the guys on the titanic submarine will be rescued?
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The cognitive dissonance displayed here is appalling. So many envious and evil fucks showing zero empathy for other humans dying a terrible death just because they have more money. Jesus fuck, people. If your life view makes you that uncaring of other humans then you need to pick a new life view or start getting on submarines yourself. You sit on the internet gleefully relishing in the deaths of others like that makes you more compassionate of poor people somehow?

Gross. You people are gross.

jkure2 ,

Hundreds of migrants drowned in the Mediterranean like not even more than a few days ago and I’ve seen at least 20x more of this kind of sentiment for a handful of rich dudes that wanted to go visit the titanic in a un-certified pringles can created by a company that recently fired it’s director of marine operations because he wouldn’t sign off on the safety of this thing. Their company website says they are not certified because certification impedes innovation 😵‍💫

Like I saw on Twitter yesterday these dudes are the deadest that anyone has ever been, whether you cry-yell at people on the internet for not being sufficiently crestfallen or not

klieg2323 ,
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It’s amazing how much manufactured empathy you can buy with money

Blue , to nostupidquestions in Do you think the guys on the titanic submarine will be rescued?

Just imagine, these idiots spend 250k to sit in a iron tube controlled by a cheap offbrand playstation controller but won't spend any of their money to improve the world. Only satisfying their own ego and greed. I can't feel sorry for them, best I can do is hope that they imploded so they didn't have to suffer too long.

Very_Bad_Janet ,

I'm not really in the business of defending billionaires but I think at least one of them, the guy who brought his son, was involved with charities:

"He works with his family's Dawood Foundation, as well as the SETI Institute - a California-based research organisation which searches for extra-terrestrial life.

"Shahzada is also a supporter of two charities founded by King Charles - the British Asian Trust and the Prince's Trust International."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-65955554

He sounds (sounded) like a good person.. I do find it interesting that the other billionaires don't have any mentions of charitable works in articles I've read in them.

TechnoBabble ,

Every billionaire uses charities.

They’re a way to exert control over the money that would normally go to taxes, and be up to the government to spend.

It’s not inherently bad, but charity is not quite the saving grace of billionaires that many make it out to be.

lich_hegemon , to cat in *duel of the fates intensifies*

We need Accidental Renaissance here

Openmindedskeptic ,

You rang? XD

lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/accidentalrenaissance

Also we are back to allowing pet, kids, and sports pics as long as they look Renaissance. Thanks for asking about us!

mrfriki , to nostupidquestions in Do you think the guys on the titanic submarine will be rescued?

Poor pilot :(

xuxebiko ,

the pilot is/was the sub company's CEO. He'd fired the whistleblower who's pointed out the sub's faults.

Zansacu ,
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That’s some karma.

xuxebiko ,

According to David Lochridge (their Director of Marine Operations who was fired and sued for whistleblowing), the passenger viewport was only certified for depths of up to 1,300 meters (4,265 feet), and OceanGate would not pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport certified for 4,000 meters, the depth at which the Titanic rested. .

https://apnews.com/article/titanic-missing-submersible-lawsuit-oceangate-0e5fc9a0313938fdf408b1459538d9ef

Zansacu ,
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I don’t understand…

So, the CEO knows this, decided against upgrading the viewpoint putting his giga wealthy customers at risk, who likely could sue him or just straight up ruin him, decided to go with it anywa, AND boarded the sub himself.

My brain doesn’t comprehend this logic.

Kutsuya , to linuxmemes in When you use Arch Linux

As an individual who possesses an unwavering ardor for the intricacies of technology, a profound yearning for unrivaled control over my computing environment, and an unrelenting thirst for the unparalleled fusion of power and customization, it brings me immense satisfaction and an immeasurable sense of superiority to confidently assert, in no uncertain terms, that I unequivocally, unreservedly, and with absolute conviction, am a devoted user of the illustrious, awe-inspiring, and meticulously crafted masterpiece that is none other than Arch Linux, and I do declare, without the faintest iota of hesitation or trepidation, that I, too, use Arch, by the way.

quantum_mechanic , to nostupidquestions in Do you think the guys on the titanic submarine will be rescued?

No, nor do I think they should be. There will be millions of wasted taxpayer dollars wasted on trying to recover rich people’s dead bodies. They signed a waiver and knew what they were getting into. There’s nothing to be learned from whatever happened, since the company was clearly negligent. Let them rest on the ocean floor beside the other rich assholes.

julietOscarEcho ,

It’s kinda poetic for them to go down next to the titanic, itself a story of complacency and excess/opulance.

WhoRoger ,
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That’s a bit harsh. If there’s anything that works in modern society pretty reliably regardless of status, it’s search and rescue. Sunk subs can also be an environmental hazard.

Hobovision , to programmerhumor in Call the Priest
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And we're already posting screenshots of reddit posts that are screenshots of tiktoks. Awesome

ProcurementCat , to nostupidquestions in Do you think the guys on the titanic submarine will be rescued?

It's interesting how just 6 days ago, a boat with 750 people on board, including 100 kids, capsized near Greece, only 104 survived, and it's less of an issue than those billionaires

Gxost ,

I think it’s because the story about a missing submersible is unusual, and moreover, it’s about a rescue attempt. This makes it more interesting than many other, albeit more dreadful, news stories.

vegivamp ,
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750 people drowning is also unusual, and there’s also been rescue attempts.

All these victims have loved ones, and i don’t wish death on anyone, but for the billionaires I find it quite hard to care much.

I still hope they’re saved, though; and if they are I very much hope the experience will have changed them.

Kantiberl ,
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That's just not the same. Drowning is quick and if you don't save them immediately they're most likely dead. Slowly suffocating in a sub while the clock ticks and something can be done about it is a different story.

Learn to care.

vegivamp ,
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You’re assuming they’re suffocating, when the smallest fault in the hull’s integrity would make the thing implode, killing them before they realized what was happening.

Like everyone, my ability to care has limits. You can’t worry and care about everything. I’ll give my fucks for those who didn’t grow rich exploiting others, thanks.

Very_Bad_Janet ,

The Greece tragedy is lacking the irony and hubris of this.

I mean, it's a tourist submersible that was aiming to bring billionaires to view the Titanic wreckage and it likely got wrecked itself. And they named the submersible Titan.

The sub's company OceanGate was dinged by a former employee for all sorts of safety issues and they fired and sued him. There are also lots of choice quotes from the CEO (who happens to be on the vessel) about moving fast and breaking things, and regulations stifling innovation. So there's some possible karma involved.

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