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Pinto23 , to futurama in To all the new(er) Reddit refugees!

Where is my can of beans?

Roundcat , to youshouldknow in YSK: Threads soon joining the fediverse.
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Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

If Kbin or Lemmy allows them to federate with us, I'm out of here.

aeroniero ,

There's nothing here to leave from in the first place, this place is pretty much empty at the moment. At least when a big player joins the fediverse it will bring users here and we will finally get decent content. The good thing about the fediverse is that the bad actors can just be defederated if things get too bad, unlike reddit for example.

Onii-Chan , (edited )
@Onii-Chan@kbin.social avatar

Same. If kbin joins in, I'm gone. I haven't been here long enough to give a fuck, but I do love it. I want kbin and Lemmy to make the right decision, but won't think twice about leaving the second I see things taking an enshittified turn. Fuck off, Meta - nobody wants you here.

BraveSirZaphod ,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

The beauty of this all is that you can just head to a different Kbin or Lemmy instance. There absolutely will be instances that refuse to federate with Meta.

linucs ,

I felt the same way but then I read this and changed my mind about it blog.joinmastodon.org/…/what-to-know-about-thread…

Thinking about it I’m in an European country where Whatsapp is the default messenger app, if it had interoperability I could be on another FOSS app and be tracked by Meta just when I talk to people who are on Whatsapp and be free when talking to people not on Whatsapp, this could be great to make people switch “clients”, which is damn hard now because “everyone is on Whatsapp”. Interoperability is the shit and we should embrace it!

fuckyou_m8 ,

We have interoperability for emails but most people use gmail/microsoft , so you could be tracked even if you use protonmail

linucs ,

Not if I’m talking to someone on Protonmail, Tutanota, etc.

Now would you prefer to have the possibility to talk privately at least to someone, even if just a handful of people, or be forced to never talk privately because you must use gmail to talk to anyone else?

fuckyou_m8 ,

Yes, but like I said, most people won’t be on those services so they will be able to collect most of your data anyways.

Here at least on Lemmy is even worse, because they can get everyone’s data even if you never access theirs instance or they could simply create a shadow one to get the data without anyone noticing

linucs ,

It’s not clear, are you saying that since they would get most of my data (which is an already flawed argument since for example now I have my partner, best friends and family on Signal which are 95% of my conversations, as opposed to 5% of people whom I talk to on Whatsapp) I should give them all of it?

The second point doesn’t even require to have Threads, they could already do that, now what?

foobaz ,

No, we should not embrace interoperability with them. Read this ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-ne…

Don’t let them get the foot in the door. Preemptively block everything.

piecat ,

Embrace meta

Extend meta

Destroy meta

Irisos ,

In addition, Facebook already had support for XMPP at some point in time but killed it.

Why? Because they couldn't dry users off other platforms after Google closed their own support for XMPP.

Even if Meta "play nice", we already know their aim. Siphon users off mastodon and then remove activityPub support when most servers are on life support from loss of users.

rideranton , to fediverse in Announcing OpenLemmyStats.org: Publicly Queryable Vote History + Other Hidden Data for Any Lemmy User!
@rideranton@kbin.social avatar

kbin users:

Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power

/s

Pog , to mildlyinfuriating in The official reddit app is not even supported on my device.

What is that app possibly made of that it cant run on literally anything? It’s just an app for text and images. I dont get it, is it optimized like an actual potato?

madis ,

Could be a library or feature that the devs didn’t consider worth maintaining on older devices.

For context, the OP appears to be using Android 5 or 5.1, released in 2014/2015 respectively and is used on 1.1-1.3% devices worldwide.

Nalivai ,

What a stupid anti-human shit, I hate it. All my devices from 10 years ago are still perfectly fine and operational, and I can’t use them because of some people’s laziness. They are used on 1% devices not because they are necessarily bad or broken but because it’s impossible to use them now for arbitrary reasons.

madis ,

Well, true. But it is more reasonable to hate the manufacturer who refused to update, not the app devs who would have to do more work for small gain. Or unofficially update your own device, if possible.

Nalivai ,

I’m not hating on the developers, I’m hating on the whole situation

pizza_pineapple ,

I’ve never seen such an aggressive take on maintaining backwards compatibility haha

Ishigami ,

Mobile devices have become like 20x more powerful in the last 10 years lol. Found my Dad’s old Galaxy S3 while cleaning the house, and it was still in working condition. Just soo freaking slow cause all the websites and were made for better hardware.

Nalivai ,

Yeah, except for the fact that modern Samsung s20 is not really that much more powerful than your s3. Sure it has more RAM, significantly more, but the processor is barely twice as good.
10 years old device has plenty power to run whatever website can offer, apart from maybe some battery degradation. Hell, I have 20 years old laptop that can do that. The reason it doesn’t is not technical, it’s almost exclusively economical, by which I mean “lazy cheap bastards don’t give a flying fuck about the mountains of e-waste we produce”

DoomBot5 ,

This is just an ignorant take on things. The S20 has like 4x the core count, and each one of those is at least 2x as energy efficient, and 4x more powerful.

RockyBass ,

No way the S20 is only slightly more powerful than an S3. If you’re not using any CPU intensive apps, such as games, then yeah, you aren’t going to see a massive difference. My S7 still runs well enough for browsing, music, and videos, but my S10 will run circles around it if I actually leverage its capabilities.

CrabLangEnjoyer ,

This really has nothing to do with being lazy, a lot of modern software just straight up isn’t supported anymore on such old systems. Making it compatible and testing it on those old platforms makes no business sense at all. Far too expensive with little to no benefit overall.

If anyone is to blame here it’s the phone manufacturers that don’t provide updates to those devices.

RGB3x3 ,

Exactly. Rag on Reddit all you want, but a company maintaining compatibility with an almost 10 year old OS version is a bit much.

SirShanova ,

Windows 8.1 Release: October 17, 2013 Windows 8 EoL: January 10, 2023

RGB3x3 ,

Exactly, they EOL it after 10 years. And that’s MICROSOFT. Reddit is smaller by many orders of magnitude.

If anything, backward compatibility is Google’s fault.

static_motion ,

Bingo. For a lot of devices, especially anything made after 2015-ish, there’s no real reason why mid to high-end devices couldn’t be running the most recent OS version outside of “it’s a lot of work to certify updates for so many devices”. Thankfully Android has a custom ROM scene which keeps devices going for a few years longer.

magikmw ,

One of the reasons is security, older Android APIs let your apps do whatever they want. You probably could try to find an apk that would work on older devices, but google has minimal API requirements that involve permissions and data access, and if your app doesn’t support them it wont be allowed on the Play Store. So even if devs supported other devices, you wouldn’t find the app on the store.

Rootiest ,
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Probably the same team that used to make the Snapchat Android app back in the day

Decoy321 ,

What makes it even more ridiculous is that it was originally a perfectly functional 3rd party app that they bought out. AlienBlue worked on ipads. A decade ago.

Dohnakun ,

I mean, look at the facebook app. They had to do “optimizations”, because they ran into limits of Android’s Dalvik a few years back.

Da_Boom ,
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More than a few years back - they’ve long since replaced dalvik with ART.

Dohnakun ,

Or i confused dalvik with art. Don’t know anymore. Facebook app got leaner?

DoomBot5 ,

No, it’s just been about 10 years since they had that issue. Facebook mitigated it by splitting its services into multiple apps.

Dohnakun ,

Huh, time flies.

static_motion ,

Tell me about it. Dalvik was replaced by the ART in Android 4.4 Kitkat IIRC, which is what my Nexus 7 shipped with back in 2013. Feels like 3 years ago rather than 10.

Zagorath ,
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is it optimized like an actual potato?

Back when it was still in beta, it went through a period where it drained my battery from 100% to dead in under 30 minutes.

Just by being installed, not even actually using it.

sweBers ,

Facebook still does this to me. I log in via Web app now.

Sp00ky94 , to fediverse in threads is already going great 💀

Aside from political views, another social network will not help anything and is only another useless app to install.

RCKLSSBNDN , to linuxmemes in Some trouble

I remember I had a date with a girl back in the’10s. We hit it off and got back to her place. Wanted to show her a funny Internet video.

She brought out an ancient laptop that refused to boot and said her Ex had tried to fix it with Linux.

I got it pointed at the right dependencies, she fellated me as it updated.

I think this is my only sexy story that includes Linux.

Well, I guess there was this one time I loaned a lonely neighbor DOS 6 disks.

But, that does not include Linux.

HenrysCat ,

My suspicion is it’s not just your sexy Linux story but the only sexy Linux story.

docAvid ,

Never been to PenguiCon, I guess.

ABCDE ,

Is that the furry Linux con?

SubArcticTundra ,
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I mean we all know that recompiling the kernel is practically a replacement for sex

talkingcat , to mildlyinfuriating in Just opened a bag of chips

I see you got a bag of cheese holes

aslaii , to pics in Here's a picture of the Orion nebulae I took [OC]

Do you see this realtime? Or do you have to do those long exposures?

ludw OP ,

It depends a bit on what equipment you have, but at least with my gear I don’t see much even on individual 100s exposures until I post process to bring out what was captured.

quinten , to fediverse in Announcing OpenLemmyStats.org: Publicly Queryable Vote History + Other Hidden Data for Any Lemmy User!
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You got me at the first half, not gonna lie.

3xa8yte , to pics in Mt Rainier, WA taken from Crystal Mountain
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Wow, what an impressive shot.

gon , to mildlyinfuriating in The official reddit app is not even supported on my device.
@gon@lemmy.world avatar

LMFAO that’s special

gvasco , to youshouldknow in YSK: Threads soon joining the fediverse.

Moved to Fediverse to get away from the data hoarding and selling that those types of companies partake in. Really hope most instances will defederate from threads and prevent Meta from collecting more data.

nero ,
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The only thing they can collect (as long as you aren’t on their services) are the things that are available for the entire world to see. So your comments, usernames etc. are already visible and they won’t get any of your personal data as that’s not known except to your instances admins.

fuckyou_m8 ,

They will collect or probably are already collecting. Even if everyone defederate from Threads, they can and will open a secret instance and get all the data without anyone knowing it

xan1242 , to linux_gaming in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

Same here, experience got worse after upgrading the monitor.

I went from a somewhat matched pair of 1080p 75Hz monitors, one of which was ultrawide (2560 width) to upgrading my ultrawide to a 3440x1440 160hz panel.

That upgraded panel suffered every step of the way in Linux.

I absolutely cannot get 160Hz consistently if I have both monitors running. On KDE X11, compositor drops the rate to 75FPS to even things out (except the mouse lol). On KDE Wayland it works properly in this regard, but we all know how Wayland is on NVIDIA right now.

GNOME is a similar story as KDE Wayland, with an added bonus of stuttering.

I’m not losing hope, though. It’s gonna catch up to AMD but man does it stink to use lol

The only other reason I really have to use X11 is because the hardware video decoding in the browser doesn’t work in Wayland with NVIDIA. Most of the apps are actually becoming more and more stable.

BilboSwaggins , (edited ) to fediverse in Announcing OpenLemmyStats.org: Publicly Queryable Vote History + Other Hidden Data for Any Lemmy User!
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And any EU citizen could proceed to sue the shit out of you and anyone who uses that data, based on GDPR. Especially, once you not only collect it, but also run any kind of inference on it.
Would be interesting to see where that ends. Once you start selling it, you act as some kind of company/have commercial interest and thereby clearly fall under GDPR. If they've never given their consent to your data processing, it would be best if your servers stand on some offshore oil rig and your bank account is somewhere on the Bahamas I guess...

IceMan ,

Hmm I’m not sure it’s as simple as that. The things stopping me from hosting my own Lemmy instance is that I don’t see notices about data processing/administrating entity/right to be forgotten/data dump about yourself anywhere on public instances. I don’t intend to implement these myself or share with whole word my home address so that they know where I am located. However the public instances are running fine without this, so maybe this threat of lawsuits isn’t as serious as you suggest?

booty_flexx OP ,

There are handsome penalties for violating copyright but torrent trackers are still thriving, I expect similar legal evasion tactics from sites like OpenLemmyStats

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