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MajorHavoc , to linux in what do you think about my tier list of distros

I see that you’re trying to bait us, but the Cult of Debian doesn’t talk about the Cult of Debian.

Wait, I didn’t mean to-

lemmyreader ,

😁

lal309 ,

The council members would like to “speak to you” about a recent “developments” we’ve been made aware of. We assure you, nothing will happen to you…

lordnikon ,

there is a cult of Debian? where do I sign up?

sonori ,
@sonori@beehaw.org avatar

I regret that I have to be the one to inform everyone of this, but I fear MajorHavoc suffered an unfortunate accident caused by a computer glitch in an elevator control system three hours ago. They will be missed.

lemmyreader ,

FYI : The embedded OS in the elevator infrastructure was the [NOT DISCLOSED] OS.

GenderNeutralBro , to linux in what do you think about my tier list of distros

Do a religion tier list next.

thingsiplay ,

Brofessional!

CanadaPlus , to programmerhumor in what u actually signed up for

I mean, American programmers seem to make a ton.

Bipta ,

Yes but they live in places that cost a ton, and then get fired with no notice.

GissaMittJobb ,

Agreed to the part about job security being terrible in the U.S, but it’s worth mentioning that the premium you get in income for living in for example San Francisco far outweighs the cost of housing.

fidodo ,

You can always cut back on expenses, you can’t just increase your salary. I will take high cost of living with a high salary any day and just cut back on non essentials. If you’re eating out all the time and a meal is $20 vs $5, that will add up to a lot, but if you’re spending 50 cents on an egg instead of 10 cents, you’ll still be making way more in a HCOL area. Plus programming has the best paying remote opportunities, so you can have the best of both worlds if you’re talented.

entropicdrift ,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I live in rural Pennsylvania but I work remotely for a San Francisco startup.

I get paid less than my coworkers who live in big cities, but more than any of my friends who live in my area except one who’s also a programmer.

fidodo ,

That’s the best possible outcome. We’re super lucky in this industry because we have the best paying remote work opportunities out there. Before you couldn’t get an SF job in a LCOL area, and even with a COL adjustment, you are still making closer to an SF salary than a rural Penn salary.

entropicdrift ,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Exactly. I got extremely lucky on top of actively trying to game the system.

NewDark , to programmerhumor in Asking the important questions

Try writing your backend with browser limitations and see what kind of wild wrappers you make to keep yourself sane.

hector ,

What are limitations of browser for backend?

notquitetitan ,

You mean NodeJS lol

xmunk ,

I remember the day of php files outputting html to the browser… it was 95% as functional as the stuff written in react and node today and incredibly simple.

Heck, at my company, I still sneak in old-school HTML files when I can.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

I am starting to come around if not to the horrible solutions then at least the shift in thinking that made people consider using those, over the old-school approach.

Back then, the internet was this cool new thing. Fast-forward to today, and all those old pages with broken links, outdated information, and outdated presentation of information, can be problematic. e.g., should a site show an email address, or a phone number, or will doing so allow it to be spammed by bots? (except: that will happen anyway, no matter what, and why prevent people who have legitimate needs to find information?)

Back then, people had actual attention spans, and finding new information was cool, so when people saw it, they gobbled it up and relished the chance to do so. Fast-forward to today though, and there is so much more information (& unfortunately misinformation, plus active disinformation too) than could ever hope to be read, much less absorbed and/or retained, that the default is to skim or skip rather than actually “read”, e.g. a ToS/ToC that is mandatory to continue with a service that you use literally daily.

So, I am not advocating for e.g. CSS, or React/Angular, etc., but I at least see why people were considering those options, b/c there were problems with the old approach too.

uis ,

ServiceWorkers?

doomkernel , to linux in what do you think about my tier list of distros

Tier lists are opinion-based, but I don’t share yours

muse ,
@muse@fedia.io avatar

By the comments, no one does

halm , to linux in what do you think about my tier list of distros
@halm@leminal.space avatar

I think you should’ve stuck with the bottom tier.

Hellmo_Luciferrari , to linux in what do you think about my tier list of distros

Without going into details on why you rank each distro the way you did, its just useless and baseless… Not helpful to anyone, at all, for any reason. Am I going to consult it for my next project? Absolutely not. I implore folks to do their own research and testing for their use case.

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

To add to this, another piece of this is: who are you that would make someone consider your picks over some other Joe schmoe ? Not saying your opinion doesn’t matter, but what I’m saying is what would make your opinion hold any weight to anyone reading? Your reasoning may help, but you didnt give that.

Posting tier lists with no context isnt helpful…

lemmyreader , to linux in what do you think about my tier list of distros

Looks pretty much opinionated. I like the colors and the whole of the image. I can agree with Gentoo Linux being very interesting, but not sure about CentOS. In that case I’d rather use Rocky or Alma, though for servers Debian fits my bill.

potentiallynotfelix OP ,

D*bian 🤮

lemmyreader ,

C*ntOS 🤯

thingsiplay ,

I was hoping to find a discussion.

BaalInvoker , to linux in what do you think about my tier list of distros

Arbitrary, exactly like any other distro tierlist

technom ,

A random one every month.

thejml ,

Has anyone made a tier list of distro tier lists yet?

chepycou ,
@chepycou@rcsocial.net avatar

@thejml @technom And then start a craze so you can make tier lists of tier lists of distro tier lists

smart

atlasraven31 , to linuxmemes in There are only 4 serious consolidated Linux Distros: Fedora, OpenSuse, Debian, Ubuntu

Slack is one of the OG distros.

barbara , to linux in what do you think about my tier list of distros

Like your list, I just state it without any reason.

Bad.

PlexSheep ,

Yeah I agree with this guy. This list is bad.

thingsiplay ,

I just wrote an essay reply and don’t know why.

m4xie , to programmerhumor in what u actually signed up for

Most old people don’t have that much money. Many UK pensioners freeze in their homes every year.

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

My wife and I make a decent income between the two of us, and we nearly froze to death winter before last! £500pcm+ to keep our house at like 10°C, absolute madness.

m4xie ,

Britain got it so bad with the natural gas prices in the last few years.

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m from Vancouver, Canada, so everything seemed so cheap when I moved to the UK…except natural gas and electricity. Like I held the lease and had all the utils in my name for a house when I lived in Canada, 14 people, all gamers. And the bills in winter were less than half what my wife and I were paying this past winter.

PhreakyByNature ,

That’s wild, how big is your house? My monthly spend on heating is 1/4 of that during winter to keep it at 21.

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

Single glazed everything, shoddy extension that’s falling to bits, and no insulation anywhere, 12ft ceilings and also our boiler is shit. It’s a two bedroom Victorian terrace, ground floor. Fighting with Edinburgh Council to get approval for a much needed renovation, but even though the category of listing our home is literally only covers the front facade, our really quite modest renovation plan would “be a detriment to the character of the neighbourhood”. Our upstairs neighbour also paid significantly less that winter…but they got approval to rip all their floors up and install insulation and double glazed windows.

meekah ,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

What the fuck. That sounds personal

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

Just Edinburgh planning are fickle. We got someone on the wrong day, and they decided, fuck these guys in particular. They are notorious for things like stringing an application along for 5 years for no good reason. We’re requesting a formal rejection, a decision was supposed to have been made in January, so we can take it to appeals. Thankfully since we’re in a listed building the appeal goes directly to the office of a minister and not back to Edinburgh Council planning.

PhreakyByNature ,

That’s rough :(

potentiallynotfelix OP , to linux in what do you think about my tier list of distros

CORRECTION: I meant to put elementary os at “Completely pointless” instead of “Maliciously bad”

muse ,
@muse@fedia.io avatar

Oh good, the one change that entirely saves this list. /s

lowleveldata , to programmerhumor in what u actually signed up for

right but my github commits number is off the chart

Bipta ,

Added TODO

Removed TODO

hperrin , to programmerhumor in what u actually signed up for

Most programmers I know have a SO and make bank. What is this?

fauxerious ,

you haven’t met me yet

odium ,

I think it’s Europeans. I’ve heard that many European countries don’t have high pay for devs.

lobut ,

Still high relative to the average but nowhere near their American counterparts.

pelya ,

I’ve worked with programmers from Europe, they have above average pay.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

european countries also have a lower maintenance fee for staying alive, which evens things out a lot.

programmer pay here means you can just save up and retire early.

fidodo ,

It is lower than the US, but it’s still higher than average EU salary, plus you get tons more benefits and job security. Also, with remote work, you can get a US job in Europe. You’ll get paid less than if you were in the US, but more than other Europeans, while still enjoying the social benefits, and since you can accept less that makes you attractive to US companies. Main downside is having to adjust to US meeting hours.

HootinNHollerin ,

The making bank brings the SO

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