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Maoo , to linux in what do you think about my tier list of distros
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Wrong

Atomic , to memes in The Adversary

You think the problem with tiktok was that it was simply made in China?

Not the fact that it collected vast amount of data from everyone?

And here’s a friendly reminder that Lenovo has had their very fair share of problems regarding security and data collection too.

ShadowCat ,

collecting vast amount of data ? facebook does that too and instagram and google and who knows what else

HopFlop ,

But not for a foreign government (from their perspective).

DNOS ,

Yeah good old american spyware

0ops ,

Why not? Half of them will sell to the highest bidder

linkhidalgogato ,

even IF it was true why would u give a shit about a foreign government having ur data, then assholes that are gonna swat u or kidnap u into an unlabeled van arent gonna be foreign they dont fucking care its gonna be ur government doing that shit.

HopFlop ,

The US government doesn’t want an adversary government to have the data of its citizens (because of varios reasons, including mass manipulation for example). They would of course have no issue with having that data themselves though (also because then they would be more in control over how the data is handled).

linkhidalgogato ,

Whats being questioned isnt why the us gov and the corpos that own it would want to ban tiktok that much is self evident, the question is why any one would give a fuck let alone bother to celebrate it.

rwhitisissle ,

Yes, we should ban all those, too. Or just enforce EU style privacy laws in America.

linkhidalgogato ,

crazy i wonder why the infinity racists amerikkkans decided to start with the platform that is mildly associated with china. surely it has nothing to do with their with the fact that they are most racists people on earth.

Atomic ,

Yes. But the US can control US based companies, and create laws regarding how that data is used. They can’t control a chineese one.

Do you understand how the US government might think it’s a problem that foreign countries get access to every step their citizens take?

devraza ,
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But the US can control US based companies, and create laws regarding how that data is used

Does that matter if they don’t create said laws - since they’re equally interested in their citizens data as facebook, google, etc. are?

Atomic ,

It does matter. Because the US can do it if they decide to. They have significant power over companies based in their country.

They do not have significant power over companies NOT based in their country.

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  • Atomic ,

    That’s not what that means.

    The fact that a company who wants to operate in the US has to follow US guidelines is obvious. But doesn’t mean the US government has significant power over them if they’re not based in the US.

    linkhidalgogato ,

    us gov IS controlled by us corps they banned tiktok to get rid of competition. with the ever green excuse in amerikkkan politics of appealing to racism

    Atomic ,

    Sure buddy. And 9/11 was an inside job and airplanes are spreading chem-trails to control the population and weather too.

    linkhidalgogato ,

    imagine thinking the amerikkkan politicians dont serve corporations.

    Atomic ,

    Serving and being controlled are two different things. Make up your mind. Which is is it?

    linkhidalgogato ,

    its the same thing.

    Atomic ,

    No. You can serve without being controlled. And you can be controlled without serving.

    The waitress is serving me but they’re not being controlled. It’s something they choose to do.

    And you can be controlled in what you say and so, without serving. E.g. a prisoner.

    So no. They’re not the same.

    linkhidalgogato ,

    that is meaningless semantics. both words have multiple meanings, when i said politicians serve corporations i meant that they are ultimately subservient to them because they get paid by them and their live style is contingent on this servitude and that is a system of control in this context both words refer to the same thing.

    in the example of the waitress she is being controlled when u call them or tell them to get u a certain food u are controlling their actions control doesn’t have to be absolute and it doent have to be forced.

    a better example would be a social worker who helps people aka serves them but does not respond to them and are not controlled by the people they serve.

    in the example of a prisoner there is control but no servitude sure, but it is trivial to think of an example where there is control and servitude like a serf, u know cuz world have different meaning and all.

    Atomic ,

    Yes. Well done. Words does have different meanings. Some idiot previously said “its the same thing.”

    Which is why I made the comment that they are not. The same thing. Glad you agree.

    linkhidalgogato ,

    the only idiot here is… both of us cuz this is pointless and meaningless. but u are double the idiot, they are the same in the context i used them did u forget ur own comment that i was responding to do u not know what context is, is ur mind so small u can only keep in memory the last 3 comment in a thread and not 1 more.

    either way ill move myself towards less idiocy so this is the last reply u are getting end of conversation.

    Atomic ,

    The context is not that complicated. But im not the one who thinks serving and controlling are the same thing. You can be controlled and serve at the same time. But that doesn’t make them the same thing. Not even in context, especially not in context.

    The fact you can’t even discern between the two while trying to make a point is dissapointing.

    yogthos OP ,
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    So it works exactly like every other social media app, but made in… China?

    Atomic ,

    But the data is sent to China for them to analyze and create models of citizen movement, influencing forgein citizens by deciding what content they see.

    Yes. A government is ok with tracking their own citizens. But don’t want other governments to track their citizens.

    yogthos OP ,
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    and now you understand how the rest of the world feels about US media

    Atomic ,

    I’m not American. Nor would I pretend to know how “the rest of the world” feels or speak for all of them.

    yogthos OP ,
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    Where did I suggest you were an American?

    FiskFisk33 , to memes in The Adversary

    to be fair, while the microwave might be collecting your info, it isn’t shaping your children.

    TC_209 ,

    The current US President is committing genocide and he grew up watching Howdy Doody.

    Rocketpoweredgorilla ,
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    I dunno, one kid from down the street near me looks pretty rectangular.

    yogthos OP ,
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    the capitalist hellscape your children are living in is what’s actually shaping them

    Reawake9179 ,

    As if the data just lays somewhere and just get collected, obviously it is sold to the highest bidder which knows what to do with it

    FiskFisk33 ,

    don’t get me wrong, I don’t mean to minimize that side, I just think there’s a fair argument to be made that direct control of peoples eyeballs are potentially, comparatively, much more powerful.

    linkhidalgogato ,

    i assume u are down for banning all other capitalist controlled social media platforms too then?

    SaltyIceteaMaker ,

    Well if you put it like that… Yes

    uis , to programmerhumor in Asking the important questions

    Я гусь и я до тебя доебусь

    Lucidlethargy , to memes in The Adversary

    PSA: Samsung phones are not made in China. Iphone’s sure are, though.

    Steamymoomilk ,

    Foxcon

    noahimesaka1873 ,
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    Cheaper (and sold more) A Series are, in fact, made in China (or Vietnam). Expensive S series are made in Korea though.

    ParabolicMotion , to cat in A heavily pregnant Willow on the day she moved in

    She’s so cute!

    Ghyste , to memes in The Adversary

    You forgot to label the hat and shirt as also made in China.

    yogthos OP ,
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    lol yes!

    4am , to memes in The Adversary

    Man some of these caricatures… I swear I’ve met this corn-bred Ghostbusters prop redneck before.

    darkpanda , to memes in If the USA saw what the USA is doing in the USA...

    The USA doesn’t do what the USA does for the USA, the USA does what the USA does because the USA is the USA.

    mlg , to linux in Are we Wayland yet or Whats missing?
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    HDR is only experimental on gnome and kde with weston not having an implementation.

    I think 10 bit color depth hasn’t even been worked on much.

    VRR I think is about finished although X11 has it too.

    And the Nvidia wayland support is slowly improving although still full of bugs and stability issues.

    azvasKvklenko ,

    VRR on X11 doesn’t work with multi screen setup, so it might be broken for a lot of people

    bastonia OP ,

    With explicit the protocol and the Nvidia patch for it next July, most Nvidia problems will be solved

    nexussapphire ,

    10 bit color is supported in wlroots(sway) and hyprland, can’t speak for other desktops.

    YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU , to programmer_humor in "I want to live forever in AI"

    I’ve had this thought and felt it was so profound I should write a short story about it. Now I see this meme and I feel dumb.

    morrowind ,
    @morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

    I saw a great comic about it once, one sec

    morrowind ,
    @morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

    Edit: more focused on teleportation, but a lot of the same idea. Here existentialcomics.com/comic/1

    ProgrammingSocks ,

    This could’ve sent me into an existential crisis if I hadn’t already had several where I thought the exact same things ;)

    I will say, the point about murdering the person other people have in their minds of you is certainly an interesting one.

    russjr08 , to linux in Are we Wayland yet or Whats missing?

    I’d love to find an alternative to xdotool’s auto type feature (or ClickPaste from Windows).

    There is wtype but unfortunately it doesn’t work in KDE nor GNOME because neither of them support the right protocol. I’ve run into the “<DE> hasn’t implemented $PROTOCOL” a few times in the past and it’s certainly a bit annoying.

    Aside from when that comes up, I don’t really have any complaints. A tool we used for work was never going to be fully functional on Wayland because of its dependence on Xinerama (I think) but thankfully we’ve moved away from it.

    cheet ,

    I like ydotool, uses a systemd user service, but fulfills my needs of KB shortcuts to paste text into vnc sessions

    russjr08 ,

    Oh that is perfect, thank you! Funnily enough, pasting into VNC sessions is exactly what I needed something like this for as well - you’ve taken a lot of future pain out of my workday!

    NigelFrobisher , to programmerhumor in Asking the important questions

    The proliferation of libraries that exist only to fix the problems introduced by making everything an SPA is hilarious. Everything in web tech from the last decade is basically “there was an old lady who swallowed a fly”*.

    *see also Cloud and container DevOps

    bitfucker ,

    I do think everything has its place. For example, you can do offline PWA with SPA since a page load doesn’t need a call to the server for rendering it. It also saves processing time/bandwidth by offloading the server from the burden of rendering the page. Once the page has loaded, the web app only needs data, not markup nor style. And last is that it is great since it only requires a browser without needing to write native apps in myriad of languages. Distributing and installing it is also not limited by the Apple/Google tax.

    For clouds, there are certain workflows that can surely benefit from it. Maintaining your own infrastructure 24/7 with minimal downtime can be overwhelming for SMALL teams, especially one man show. Even more so when the product/web apps suddenly blows in popularity and now need to scale. Even more so when it is being DDoSed. The point is, many things can go wrong. And when you are deploying it for 24/7 use, down times can be costly. Deploying to cloud early and then slowly building towards on-premise after the team gets bigger is a viable route IMHO

    And last is container devops. I think it also solves a lot of problems in multi-tenancy or even when running multiple services. Not everyone will use the latest-and-greatest version of a shared library. If the library is somehow conflicting with other tenants/service, you will have a bad time. Also, developing inside a container or virtual env can make testing and messing around safer since you didn’t affect your system installation.

    uis , (edited )

    For example, you can do offline PWA with SPA since a page load doesn’t need a call to the server for rendering it.

    Client still needs to call the server. How offline PWAs work then? They emulate server in ServiceWorkers.

    It also saves processing time/bandwidth by offloading the server from the burden of rendering the page.

    1. Let’s call it page generation to not confuse with actual rendering.
    2. It not always saves bandwidth and processing time, but static resources can allow to hide CDN latency on initial load. Although it is not property of SPAs, just separation of static and dynamyc part and generating dynamic part after static page already shows something.
    3. It will still result in more requests, but may trasfer less data per request. May.

    Once the page has loaded, the web app only needs data, not markup nor style.

    Static web page after loading will not request more styles. SPAs imply client-side dynamic page, and they may request more data INCLUDING styles. Also client still need to load styles on page load.

    And last is that it is great since it only requires a browser without needing to write native apps in myriad of languages.

    Write for QT.

    And when you are deploying it for 24/7 use, down times can be costly. Deploying to cloud early and then slowly building towards on-premise after the team gets bigger is a viable route IMHO

    I guess so. Not everything can be offline-oriented.

    bitfucker ,

    Client still needs to call the server. How offline PWAs work then? They emulate server in ServiceWorkers.

    Yes they do need server for initial resource loading. Usually with PWA, you need to fetch the static resource once from a CDN since every resource is bundled. And no, they don’t need to emulate server in service worker, wtf. You can if you want, but you can also store the data locally using indexeddb and sync periodically baked into the app. Service worker doesn’t emulate server, they just intercept a network call and check their cache. A man in the middle if you will. I think it is debatable if that is called emulating a server or not.

    1. Let’s call it page generation to not confuse with actual rendering.

    Yeah, that is fair. Its just the usual web tech shenanigans.

    1. It not always saves bandwidth and processing time, but static resources can allow to hide CDN latency on initial load. Although it is not property of SPAs, just separation of static and dynamic part and generating dynamic part after static page already shows something.

    When developing an application, you usually didn’t develop the dynamic and static part separately. Which data can be cached and which needs to be sent to the origin so it can be properly generated. If you fail to configure it correctly the static resource which should go to a CDN get sent to your origin instead. With SPA you just ship the frontend to the cdn and make the backend separately.

    1. It will still result in more requests, but may trasfer less data per request. May.

    I mean, if you are making an SPA without splitting the bundle, there should only be a single html, css, and js. A bunch of images and some font too if you want to be complete. But if you are making the page server generated, you always need to transmit the HTML. ALWAYS. So I think it definitely saves requests.

    Static web page after loading will not request more styles. SPAs imply client-side dynamic page, and they may request more data INCLUDING styles. Also client still need to load styles on page load.

    SPA will not request more style if you are bundling them tho? Wtf are you talking about? Unless you explicitly split the style, once SPA is loaded every page navigation is just JavaScript replacing the whole HTML with the one bundled in the JS file.

    Write for QT.

    Sure, QT exist as a UI library for cross platform. But that doesn’t solve the iOS mafia. We only got Apple to allow 3rd party store now, we haven’t got sideloading yet. It is a hassle if you want to make an app that can be used in any devices. Especially if the app is just some form filling app.

    tsonfeir , to programmerhumor in what u actually signed up for
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    I have every single one of them except the reason to live.

    muad_dibber , to programmerhumor in Asking the important questions
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    yogthos OP ,
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