The main issue with Debian, i feel, is if you have modern hardware, the distro at the end of its life cycle will be quite outdated, with very old packages (namely at both the driver level, and also the desktop environment). However, I am yet to test the testing branch which may solve for this sort of use case, while still being decently stable.
Is the problem of outdated packages still a thing now that you can get them all via Flatpacks?
Concerning the kernel, again, can you always benefit from the latest one? Personally I am starting to appreciate not having to constantly update the OS while at the same time enjoying the latest software. Concerning apt packages, those in the Debian repo will just work like clockwork
You might be interested in Nitrux, it’s an immutable distro based on Debian Unstable and the latest Liquorix kernel. If has the most recent but stable Mesa, pipewire and other drivers, but most of the userland packages are pulled from Ubuntu LTS (IIRC) - so it’s an interesting mix of having the latest base that makes it compatible with newer hardware, but has a stable userland without any of the issues that you’d see from normal packages on Debian Unstable.
I’m ok with that for how I use Debian, and is its kind of intended purpose. Outdated but stable is fine for a server being that the latter is my main concern. I wouldn’t use it for my daily driver (tried that and wound up back in Windows). IMHO, Debian has no GUI.
The card's Nvidia. Mint comes with the Nouveau driver which doesn't quite cut it, at least not for me. Maybe some of that's baked into the kernel these days, I'm not sure.
Earlier Mints (LMDE included) provided an installable package of the OEM legacy driver for cards as old as mine, but Debian 12 (which LMDE 6 is based on) doesn't.
I should point out that graphics works without the OEM driver, but it doesn't work well. Work is offloaded to the CPU that the card is perfectly capable of doing.
Debian backports kernel can be used, it is pretty up to date.
In LMDE they continue to update the DE, that is one of the benefits of using it over stock Debian + Cinnamon or SpiralLinux. Most but not all other packages follow Debian stable. Regular Mint has similar experiences with old packages since they use Ubuntu LTS.
Isn’t that one of the benefits of LMDE? I think that the DE related packages and maybe things like browsers get updated more often.
For applications these days, there is Flatpak for anything you want to keep more current.
Sure a lot of the rest of the distro will get old. Does that really matter to most users though? If the DE is up to date, the system will feel current. If your key apps are up to date, you are productive. An up to date browser keeps the web working well ( perhaps the main criteria for most people these days). Having the rest of the system be stable could be a good thing.
Devs would probably want more up to date versions of some things. Most regular users are probably just fine though.
Install the backport kernel. Use flatpak for gaming (latest mesa) and the applications you want the latest version. Perfect combination between stable and latest updates.
Actually in my very very very very specific case, that is impossible. (Although for most users with modern hardware, I’d still want something a bit more dynamic, even if just from a DE standpoint)
It is impossible for me because I am on a Mac, and since the drivers are still being written :P. The kernel is custom as well as the mesa implementation, so for now, not really an option
And currently flatpaks really are an annoyance, because since I am on arm, they are one of the largest collections of applications, which would be great, if they didn’t ship their own outdated mesa, which means I don’t have hardware acceleration in a lot of cases
The post says as much. Don’t discount the immense value of that eye candy, not to mention the crucial aspect of great usable defaults and a system that works excellently out of the box for a layman user. Debian alone does not pull that weight. Cinnamon is the easy to spot differential, sure, but LM does a lot more to maintain a really good user experience that you can just install and use painlessly.
An example that comes to mind of the extra effort LM goes to, is that they removed and blocked snap from their Ubuntu-based flavours (i.e. the main one). They point it out in the Release Notes for each release, and link to an explanation of the reasoning behind it (it’s good reasons) and, if you still want to enable it for some reason, instructions to do so.
Mint also has its own tools that reduce or eliminate dependence on terminal interaction.
My interpretation is that Linux Mint does a lot under the surface to maintain an excellent general-purpose distro that anyone can pick up and use.
Edit: even in your meme post, the yacht provides all of the amenities that make the trip a tolerable and enjoyable experience, which the truck doesn’t even try to compete with… So we might be in agreement!
Forked distros be like that, yes) however idea of forked distros is to have preset defaults that cater to certain groups of people, basically to have less hassle you choose fork to your liking and just do “flash and go” without much customizing
It’s just the proprietary web client embedded in Electron… kinda like the official client. It does offer more privacy and solves some problems with the official client, tho. Abaddon and gtkcord4 are the only usable fully foss clients afaik.
No, I just mean that they work ok and you can use them to reliably read messages, send them and some other things. They don’t have all of the features the official client has. If you like me would rather not use Discord at all but reluctantly had to join a couple servers, they’re plenty good enough. Otherwise, you’ll probably want to use to official client. abaddon has voice support, gtkcord4 doesn’t. gtkcord4 has markdown, but abaddon doesn’t. Neither have screen-sharing or webcam support.
Yeah I’ve shared screen and stuff on webcord just fine. Previously, I used it inside firefox so ublock can block things but screensharing would not work
When I was in high school, before smartphones, I would sit on the left side of the classroom, put my flip phone in my left hand next to my thigh, and play Tetris one handed. I’d have my pencil in my right hand to make it look like I was taking notes and would pause periodically to look up and look like I was paying attention. It got me through the vast majority of classes haha.
I had a game watch around 5th grade. It was LCD and had a tiny little joystick at the bottom of the screen. It would play imitations of games like Pac Man and Space Invaders. Apparently I wasn’t ghosty enough because it got confiscated pretty quickly.
Why is the picture so small? I really want getting into riverwm, but the tags system feels very weird to me, aka I still struggle to understand it completely, why yambar instead of waybar?
I tried to upload a bigger image but Lemmy wasn’t allowing me to do so with ‘file too big’ error. I like Yambar cause its easier to customize it with custom scripts (like having a script to show how many packages to update) and also the feel of it is different and interesting to use.
Edit: I now have added a link for a higher res version of the image in the description 🤙
If the tags are anything like DWM or Awesome, they're like traditional workspaces like you'd find in Gnome or KDE, but with the option to display multiple workspaces at the same time.
Example:
You have a "coding" tag that contains your editor and terminal, and a "browsing" tag that contains Firefox and Chrome. You can display the windows in just "coding" or "browsing," or you can display all windows from both tags at the same time.
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