I could spit venom over tutorials going ‘here’s each word you type, with narrative guidance for where it goes!’ instead of showing a complete snapshot to copy-paste. You are providing… an example. Don’t make people jump through their asses just to get there! The goal is understanding what this witchcraft does, not solving a puzzle to construct the syntax that’s equally mysterious to newbies.
There’s a particular kind of bullshit obstacle that bucks people straight into apathy. If someone wants to keep their discipline mysterious and exclusive - there is no better moat than a seventeen-step installation, setup, and type-in process, where an entire hour of parsing technobabble can be diverted into harsh computer-says-no rejection at every step.
People: we are coders. We’re all broken the same way. Be quietly condescending, in delivering the functional minimum start. Lean over and push the buttons for us, if that’s an option. You know damn well step one can be the shallow end and step two can be the Marianas trench, so long as the first step works.
We’ll happily gaze into the Stygian depths in glass-eyed terror, as many times as it takes to comprehend the barest outline of that abyssal well of knowledge, if we can keep paddling back and forth from whatever baby-ass Hello World does one neat thing.
There are levels to it. As things get more complex the problems get infinitely more strange. As you learn a particular technology the strange things you encounter are often because of a misunderstanding about that technology or the way it works.
Once you hit professional level software engineering (think distributed systems), things are strange in large part because the system you’re working on has hundreds of thousands of man hours poured into it, and is often very complex with 10 different technologies backing it to do various things.
The more strange things you encounter though the more you’re learning!
I use neo store but it’s just a f-droid client. We haven’t lost f droid yet, by what I can figure out theres one guy taking leadership of the main repo but there’s other repos anyway like issyondriod and you can still use that repo not like it’s broken Also obtainium is only really useful for prereleases of apps cos often they aren’t on f-droid
There’s not a guy taking leadership since in practice he had it anyway all along. A bunch of other people decided they wanted it too, and the formal project structure said they were supposed to get it, but he wasn’t willing to share from what I can tell. So some of the others quit.
In a corporation where people are getting paid, obviously that would be intolerable since those who sign the checks make the rules. In a volunteer project where one person is doing most of the work and others seemingly try to interfere, it’s more complicated and this kind of stuff happens in FOSS projects all the time.
So, idk what will happen but as an outsider I’m ok with just waiting for a while and hoping things work out.
I tried using obtainium but it doesnt’work on android 14, and izzy and the other repos don’t have the apps i use, guess it’s time for manual installs again…
Thanks for the background info. Still not very clear what actually the problem was, but I’d file it under volunteer drama. Working together as a group without clear leadership is hard.
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