Honestly, probably the only way to save the Environment and Democracy. Too much power in the hands of the few leads to perpetual effective monarchy. It's why the Founding Fathers were against large amounts of inherited wealth, particularly inherited wealth that creates dynasties in perpetuity.
I know people don't like the Founding Fathers that much lately, and I see why, but conservatives really don't understand them, and deliberately misrepresent them, because not doing so would undercut all conservative "policies".
World's a mess because of inequality and the concentration of almost all wealth and power into the hands of a small amount of sociopaths. I honestly think the only way to solve this permanently is to cap the amount of wealth and power any individual or family can have.
I’m actually ok with wealthy people being wealthy, but when they took over the government as a way to make even more money at our expense is where I draw the line. We need to take back regulatory power, it’s the only thing that can compete at today’s scale.
Wealth is power. If you allow a tiny sliver of society to amass society warping levels of it, this is the outcome. There need to be limits and controls, or this will always happen.
We need to recognize that janitors are also integral and valuable. An MBA large company well paid executive doesn’t provide value to society in general, only private shareholders.
You ever see those comments on youtube that describe themselves as future entrepreneurs or whatever and absolutely slobber over shitty companies and rich people? Makes me cringe so fucking hard
this reminded me of how 4channers purposely desensitize themselves to gore and other heinous stuff, but they cant escape the pain of loneliness. and it could be solved if they just didnt act like massive pieces of shit. then they blame it on women and the supposed phenomenon of them only dating the “top 20%” of men! its probably the stupidest self-fulfilling prophecy
jfc, you dont even have to have basic hygiene (tho that helps), just be nice!! dont be a misanthropic shut-in with a hyper-inflated ego and unearned confidence in ur intelligence. but when they try to be nice it isnt bc they want others to be happy, its to get something, so they come off as a disingenuous Nice Guy. i hate them but also kind of feel bad for them. maybe if they didnt get caught in this vicious cycle some of them wouldnt be reactionary assholes
They competitively numbed themselves with gore/torture treats to try to impress other numbed people and are shocked that being emotionally numb makes them repulsive. surprised-pika
Emotional numbness isn’t repulsive in itself, disregard for others is. People can feel emotions less intensely than others or lack emotional empathy(feeling what others feel) but still make friends through genuinely putting effort.
It’s repulsive as a coercive competition between hateful nihilistic 4chan fascists. It’s a contagious way to wreck people’s social lives needlessly by peer pressure and false promises.
Being numb by other means or just as a default isn’t the same thing as being numb because edgy internet nazis say it’s cool to do that.
The point is that 1 million is a big number (or a lot of money), as is 1 billion. But 1 billion is so big, it makes 1 million seem small by comparison. 1 thousand is not a big number.
Otherwise you might have known that repeating something that is blindingly obvious to everyone and also completely besides the point is not an effective counter-argument.
Never said I’m smart, just that I’m more clever than you are. I’m also faster than a garden snail and better at high jump than an elephant, doesn’t mean I’m training for the Olympics.
Also, if you had been paying attention, you’d have noticed that it was posted in the Dad Jokes community for intentionally lame jokes and as such not a measure of me trying to be clever 🙄
Dunno, haven’t measured it since I found out a couple decades ago that it’s not so much a useful tool for assessing intelligence as something invented by and for insecure people with very specialised knowledge to use as a combination status symbol and weapon 🤷
teachers were insecure and used specialised knowledge as a status symbol and weapon, LOL
In many cases, yeah. I’m generally very pro-teacher, but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t any bad teachers out there stubbornly clinging to debunked systems 🤷
Why are you continuing to insult me by saying I’m stupider than you?
Because you keep asking for clarification as if I wasn’t being crystal clear the first time. I’m just having fun humouring you while also mocking you 🤷
Sounds pretty weak and insecure to me!
Your constant hounding me about whatever I could possibly mean by calling you neither smart nor clever? Yep, sure does.
Otherwise you might have known that repeating something that is blindingly obvious to everyone and also completely besides the point is not an effective counter-argument.
Lol, wealth and income are different things. Besides the point of what? They’re not the same, cretin.
It wasn’t a counter argument, you fucking tool.
But keep doubling down, it’s like inception with an idiot.
Congratulations on stating the blindingly obvious a THIRD time, demonstrating that you’re incapable to learn from your mistakes.
Besides the point of what? They’re not the same, cretin.
They ARE intimately connected, though. According to everyone and everything except for US tax code written by and for the mega-rich themselves, wealth is a result of income, cretin.
It wasn’t a counter argument
What was it, then? What is your reason for repeatedly stating what everyone always knows, if not to support some kind of point against the fact that extreme wealth and income concentration is a problem?
keep doubling down
I’m not the one that keeps repeating the same blindingly obvious statement again and again, apparently hoping that it’s going to be super poignant or at least a tiny bit relevant to some secret point THIS time 🤦
They ARE intimately connected, though. According to everyone and everything except for US tax code written by and for the mega-rich themselves, wealth is a result of income, cretin
Lol. Exactly you fucking moron. So it’s already been taxed. So if I invest my taxed income to create wealth, which I’ll get taxed on again if I convert to income, or I die and then it’ll get taxed again. Somehow that’s bad?
Just because you’re poor and want what others have doesnt make you superior and morally correct, it just makes you poor like the other 99.9%, and envious to boot. Lol! 🤡
Lol, I can’t believe this is the point you condescendingly make over and over, yet don’t understand how wealth and income pay for all the public services… Twat.
lots of pro-exploitation nonsense talking points given with the inverse confidence and knowledge levels of rich idiots and lickspittles everywhere
🥱 We’re done here. If I wanted all of the stupidest right wing talking points yelled at me by someone very angry clearly compensating for something by claiming that every else is the idiot, I’d turn on Faux News 🙄
I said we’re done here. If I had known you were THIS stupid, I’d never have engaged in the first place. There are tens of millions of idiots using the exact same garbage talking points, none of them worth my time.
Yeah, it’s the lifetime theoretical reward for highly skilled work vs what someone has right now.
You might think “that’s just on paper”, but cut it by 10 and it’s still a nonsensical comparison. The scale is insane
It’s a moon base built ASAP. It’s build a floating country in the Atlantic the size of Delaware. It’s buy a prefab house for everyone in the US who is renting or homeless. It’s give everyone in the world a plane ticket to anywhere they want, round trip. It’s build a maglev train network across a continent. It’s wake up every day, go anywhere, and buy a new house at such an insane price the existing owner would agree to leave within the hour. It’s build something the scale of the Washington monument at every rest stop across the US
These aren’t things that would use up the wealth, these are things individuals could do, then go on to live the most extravagant possible life. Sure, a lot of these things would require careful planning and take decades if you actually wanted to do them, but that’s the scale we’re looking at - it’s choose an issue and affect global change kind of money.
Yeah, wealth, income, and lifetime projected income are all very different things, it’s apples and oranges. Except it’s more like a single apple against every orange ever eaten - the sheer difference in scale makes any comparison meaningless. Simply spending their wealth, in any way, would drastically change the lives of countless people for the better
If they spent their ‘wealth’ they’d have to convert their assets into cash, making it income, their wealth is shares in the companies they built. If they sold their shares the prices would tank
Those companies employee millions of people who receive income and pay taxes on it
They also get stock options regularly and dividends…plenty of people have started successful businesses after gaining sufficient wealth.
So, if we convince billionaires to sell all of their company slowly it’ll all be fine? That’s your logic?
A, why the fuck would they do that?
B, the shareholders via the board make the decisions, you think they’ll be happy with a CEO who has no skin on the game? And would have to be compensated by fuck tons of cash, which would hurt the business
My logic is that not every “successful business” is worth billions. And maybe there’s sense in doing something with ones that are, like split them into several businesses that are not owned by a single person
If you earn 10m over your lifetime, spend 3m on living, buy a house for 1m, pay 1m into a index linked pension you’d end up with wealth as well as income. I.e. > 10m
That’s why it’s always important to compare like for like.
Wealth is not income, income can create wealth. Wealth can create income, they are still not the same thing
But seeing as this place has more than its fair share of tankies, I’m not surprised at the economic illiteracy on show.
Agreed, honestly. Broadly, the less accountability we give parents (more is better), the less control we should give them too. Kids deserve a safe home, but we do a bad job at ensuring that, and at the very least they don’t deserve to be trapped in an unsafe one with minimal rights and parents who are allowed to be dictators. Speaking from personal experience, at least.
i feel you, but i keep living just in case this ever changes. getting a job is unironically one of the best things i did for my mental health. helps paying for my hobbies too, still not enough to move out though. my solution is to endure and wait until i can sustain living on my own.
it’s hard, i lie in bed every evening unable to sleep thinking about how everything’s rigged against me. seeing no reason to live is perfectly rational.
but i don’t want to end up in a statistic no one’s going to do anything about. that’s not what i do. i have a few things that distract me from the thoughts, but it’s a constant flow of reasons why i don’t want to live here anymore.
Depression is one hell of a mental illness. unfortunately, the cure is normal living conditions. and that’s not happening anytime soon.
hang in there, and maybe you can look back on your life and say “i’m glad i stayed”.
If you can afford it, may be worth trying to get a check for mental health, because lack of willpower may as well be because of depression or other issues. For me getting treatment had changed a lot (even though rn it is kinda bad again but not that bad)
Thanks for replying. I don’t think I’ll get checked up not only due to financial struggles right now, but also not having strength to do anything. I’m just going on with life, day by day, month by month, year by year. If I’m correct with my terminology, I’m burnt out.
you’re pretty much the only one who can do anything about it. don’t seek immediate success, make little steps. next time you get a productivity boost, go for a walk. clean up your room a little.
and most importantly, prove life wrong. giving up is not why you exist.
None of this, anywhere, exists by any other means than chance. The entire universe has no reason to exist. It has no reason to not exist.
It also showcases the most unique thing about awareness of the human problem - If the meaning of life isn’t a thing, what is it? Well, maybe it’s not a question to be answered, but a journey to be experienced.
So we can say “well, fuck, we’ll be miserable forever.” Or, we can individually ask if we are ok with that, and if we aren’t, how can we influence this journey to be worth experiencing?
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