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thejevans , to gaming in The Gaming Ghost
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When I was in high school, before smartphones, I would sit on the left side of the classroom, put my flip phone in my left hand next to my thigh, and play Tetris one handed. I’d have my pencil in my right hand to make it look like I was taking notes and would pause periodically to look up and look like I was paying attention. It got me through the vast majority of classes haha.

dan1101 ,

I had a game watch around 5th grade. It was LCD and had a tiny little joystick at the bottom of the screen. It would play imitations of games like Pac Man and Space Invaders. Apparently I wasn’t ghosty enough because it got confiscated pretty quickly.

otp ,

play Tetris one handed.

Sounds like a euphemism, but I guess you didn’t mention a joy stick

h05 , to asklemmy in What Major Social Media Platforms Would You Like To See Federated Alternatives To That Don't Exist Yet?

BeReal

I’d love to see a federated — or first of all just in any kind open source — version of this. I really love their approach of making social media less addictive, but they’re starting to introduce some features which I think are counterproductive to their initial concept.

Since it is just a mobile-oriented product (for obvious reasons like needing two cameras, taking selfies, carrying it around the whole time) it might be hard to build something like that but I guess it would be nice.

I also have no idea how you would make something like that federated, but the approach might be like that the different instances are working as the BeReal timezones, so the BeReal time might be the same for all members of an instance.

Maybe someone is working on that, but I guess this will take some more years, because BeReal is not that popular for a long enough time…

tkk13909 ,

I would love this so much!

h05 ,

yay thanks now I know I’m not the only kind of tech, linux, open source, privacy and federation loving person which still uses stuff like BeReal

dino , to unixporn in River/Yambar Theme

Why is the picture so small? I really want getting into riverwm, but the tags system feels very weird to me, aka I still struggle to understand it completely, why yambar instead of waybar?

BlanK0 OP , (edited )

I tried to upload a bigger image but Lemmy wasn’t allowing me to do so with ‘file too big’ error. I like Yambar cause its easier to customize it with custom scripts (like having a script to show how many packages to update) and also the feel of it is different and interesting to use.

Edit: I now have added a link for a higher res version of the image in the description 🤙

eltimablo ,

If the tags are anything like DWM or Awesome, they're like traditional workspaces like you'd find in Gnome or KDE, but with the option to display multiple workspaces at the same time.

Example:
You have a "coding" tag that contains your editor and terminal, and a "browsing" tag that contains Firefox and Chrome. You can display the windows in just "coding" or "browsing," or you can display all windows from both tags at the same time.

words_number , to linux in LMDE just rocks

It’s not a rolling release though, right? I mean mint is nice, but I am absolutely pleased with my experience using debian testing as daily driver for years while it just stays perfectly up to date and never breaks (as opposed to arch or even manjaro).

someonesmall ,

It’s not rolling, but you will automatically receive cinnamon updates over the mint repository. For gaming and latest software you can use flatpak.

QuazarOmega , to piracy in this can't be real. is it?

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taladar , to asklemmy in What Major Social Media Platforms Would You Like To See Federated Alternatives To That Don't Exist Yet?

I would like to see something that is less focussed on social media and more on building something together like Wikipedia. One thing that comes to mind would be mapping out all political statements along with arguments and evidence to support or falsify them and the relationships between them (e.g. “if you believe x is a big problem in society and you believe y is the perfect form of government then you must believe y solves x”).

A lot of our political discussions seem quite repetitive and go in circles because each argument is presented in a very shallow way. Something to counteract that would be welcome and I think it could work quite well in a federated way since people with different political views would probably want to contribute the supporting and that falsifying sides for each statement.

Harold_Penisman ,
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I like this idea

SubArcticTundra ,
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You might like a website called Kialo. It’s a tool for structured public debates

Wappen ,

Thank you, that’s a great platform I did not think existed.

deweydecibel , (edited )

That would go to shit immediately. The sheer level of moderation that would be required to prevent that from being abused and corrupted would be insane, and then that kind of moderation would in turn invalidate the whole project because the moderation itself would have its own biases.

But it especially wouldn’t work in a federated space. Are you suggesting that people can just open their own instance of that? If there are multiple different instances for this kind of thing, that’s even more abusable.

Part of the reason Wikipedia works is it is centralized, relatively neutral, and you need sources on facts. It’s run by people that adhere to a strict standard, and everyone that contributes is required to adhere to that exact same standard.

What would be the scholarly criteria for the sort of thing that you’re talking about? What is the standard? And how do you enforce that standard in a federated space?

Because if it’s anything like how federation works around Lemmy, there can be no standard. Instances are going to do whatever they like based on the biases of each admin, which undermines the entire concept.

SubArcticTundra ,
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You might like a website called Kialo. It’s a tool for structured public debates

shutz ,

You’re trying to apply objectivity to a very subjective area. I’m not saying it’s impossible, and you should by all means try it, but maybe it would be a good idea to try something that has a better chance, first, such as this:

How about an open platform for scientific review and tracking? Like, whenever a new discovery or advance is announced, that site would cut through the hype, report on peer review, feasibility, flaws in methodology, the ways in which it’s practical and impractical, how close we are to actual usage (state of clinical trials, demonstrated practical applications, etc.)

And it would keep being updated, somewhat like Wikipedia, as more research occurs. It needs a more robust system of review to avoid the problems that Wikipedia has, and I don’t have the solution for that, but I believe there’s got to be a way to do it that’s resistant to manipulation.

howrar ,

Basically a living survey paper. Examine.com does a very good job of this for a very small set of the scientific literature. The problem is that it takes a lot of work to do, few people are qualified to do it, and out of those few, even fewer will have the time to make such contributions.

nxdefiant , to piracy in this can't be real. is it?

It’s true, one does not simply log into Mordor.

Fabrik872 , to asklemmy in What Major Social Media Platforms Would You Like To See Federated Alternatives To That Don't Exist Yet?

I would like discord but in fediverse. This one i am actually using and even there are foss alternative like nextcloud talk i would like something that is at least as reliable as discord for calls

somas ,
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@Fabrik872

Is that not what Matrix is? I haven’t been to really understand Matrix so maybe I’m wrong.

https://matrix.org/

biscoot ,

Yes, Matrix is the closest I’ve seen to Discord that is federated. However, it doesn’t use ActivityPub I believe

danhakimi ,

well, yeah, because it's private messaging, it requires encryption and things like that. Really, fediverse instances should ideally incorporate matrix chat in some way or another, but that's not exactly trivial.

Zak ,
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Is ActivityPub a good fit for chat? Trying to make every kind of interaction fit into a single protocol sounds like a recipe for a bad protocol.

nasi_goreng ,
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ActivityPub is not designed for real time chat and communication, I believe.

There’s Matrix and XMPP protocol, but upcoming MLS protocol (which backed Mozilla, The Matrix.org Foundation, even Meta) looks more complete, feature-wise.

fluffery ,
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He meamtwd calling, calling is lacking

jabathekek , to piracy in this can't be real. is it?
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Scummy.

RAM , to asklemmy in What Major Social Media Platforms Would You Like To See Federated Alternatives To That Don't Exist Yet?

Letterboxed - an app like bookwyrm, but for movies. I’ve seen other people talk about it and I think some people are working on it, but AFAIK nothing is up atm

Dasnap ,
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Trakt would be good also and it covers film and TV.

nasi_goreng ,
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LibRate is WIP fediverse alternative for that.

It plans to supports film, books, games, and more. Basically one stop for every tracker.

nycki , to asklemmy in What Major Social Media Platforms Would You Like To See Federated Alternatives To That Don't Exist Yet?

Google search. I want a way of finding stuff based on everyone’s tag suggestions, like a booru, but distributed.

andrew_bidlaw , to asklemmy in What Major Social Media Platforms Would You Like To See Federated Alternatives To That Don't Exist Yet?
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Not social media but I’d probably like the idea of social games like these little timekillers from Facebook, chess, worms, poker, whatever that’s not that dependent on speed\ping and lightweight. Basically an app platform that can be easily included into other apps. Some different Lemmy communities can even challenge each other or hold events.

curiousaur , to asklemmy in What Major Social Media Platforms Would You Like To See Federated Alternatives To That Don't Exist Yet?

Couchsurfing.org

rufus , (edited ) to asklemmy in What Major Social Media Platforms Would You Like To See Federated Alternatives To That Don't Exist Yet?

Well, I’d for one like to see something new. Not just another clone of an existing platform, since I don’t really love any of the social media platforms. I’d like something that simultaneously connects me with friends and people all around the world. With communities like here, just more focused on positive and constructive engagement regarding different topics. Less picking on the news and less just replying if there’s something wrong with what somebody said. I’d like to explore some means of democratic engagement. For example electing moderators. Maybe vote on rules instead of transferring power just by choosing instances wisely. And I’d like to do away with the current way of upvoting. It sometimes encourages herd mentality instead of good answers. I’d also like to incorporate blogging longer and well reasoned texts, microblogging and sharing pictures. Both silly memes but also vacation pictures with my friends. I think the concept of friend circles is good, You could choose who gets to see what aspect from your life. And I want different pseudonyms so not everyone knows all the stuff I’m into. And something that’s entirely missing is selling used stuff in the neighborhood. Something like NextDoor/Craigslist/Facebook marketplace… You could also combine that with local news and connecting the neighborhood, not just discuss world politics all the time.

I think there is much potential for an enticing platform if we think big and use the concept of federation to our advantage, apply it to use-cases and concepts that haven’t yet been explored by the big commercial platforms. We have to do away with the urge of re-creating something to make it possible. And it’d be hard to come up with good concepts to foster good behaviour and solve the technical aspects. But at the same time it’d allow us break free from the constraints of what’s already there and just be a smaller alternative to XY. The way it currently often is: We let the major players come up with the new ideas. They have different motivations, mainly growing and making money. We re-create what they came up with and add a bit to it, but the concept stays the same. I think we can do more. But it is difficult. There have been crazy ideas, really new distributed platforms being implemented, lots of it with some crypto tech and in the end it didn’t take off or wasn’t aligned with what the users want and need or are comfortable with. Or people tried combining every feature into one platform (like I just proposed,) and it fails due to complexity.

Mango ,

I’ve had this idea where instead of a moderator having dominion over a community, their removals only work for people subscribed to that moderator specifically. We can make moderator actions work the way block lists do in ublock origin!

Of course admin action would still be necessary for curbing high volume spammers and illegal stuff.

I’d just like to see how things are when the conversation isn’t one way ruled by moderators who want their own ideals to seem like the norm. I’m not interested in tone policing and the like.

rufus , (edited )

We seem to share similar ideas. I think we don’t necessarily have to be constrained by how stuff works in the real world. There, it is impossible to listen to everyone, you need to transfer power to a small amount of representatives. And one or few people at the top or it gets messy and nothing gets done. Also you need to come up with a single solution that applies to everyone.

I don’t think it has to be that way in the realm of online services. Technically, we can ask an arbitrary number of people for their opinion. Vote with less effort since networks are fast, databases quite capable and everything interconnected anyways. Have people just represent themselves or just 5 family members or transfer their democratic power to whomever they deem appropriate. It doesn’t even have to be a vote by majority. There are better weighted voting systems out there that are just impossible to implement in real-world countries. It doesn’t have to be one solution for everything, it could individually apply to communities of the platform or work differently for different topics. And big platforms already provide different content and algorithms for their individual users. We could also just everyone be provided with a unique perspective on the same data. Someone can be faced with something while another person has it buried at the bottom or not displayed at all. And we’d just choose things for ourselves, not vote on how other people are treated at all. (I mean that somehow emerges on it’s own… Once everyone chooses to not listen to trolls and annoying people, they’d just lose their audience and become meaningless.)

I see many technical challenges and negative consequences. We’d need to keep the crypto and blockchain people away from it. Everything I’ve seen that uses blockchain technology to achieve this has failed in the meantime. And was mainly intended to make money by some means. But things like ActivityPub are also not made for this. I’d really like to do away with the current voting mechanisms. I’d rather say I trust what this person says and my interests align with those people and this would replace global up- and downvoting. It’s certainly possible from a technical viewpoint. But would it really encourage good behaviour and foster a nice place? People sometimes like to engage especially with the things they oppose and comment on them. It would also be a massive filter-bubble. Algorithms confine people into small and similar-minded bubbles, not a diverse and realistic and stimulating world. I think it’s really difficult to find a delicate balance here, design choices that automatically push towards good behaviour and interesting engagement per default.

I completely agree on the admin stuff. Someone has to provide the computing power and take responsibility for what’s stored on their servers. And sometimes mistakes happen, things turn out bad or break. There are malicious people out there. Someone needs to have the power to fix things. I think that’s perfectly possible. Lots of platforms have succeded at that, there are people available, perfectly able to handle that responsibility. And ultimately, the whole internet is quite resilient and was designed with the idea of being a level playing-field and connect things and people.

Mango ,

I’ve actually put a lot of thought into how this would be implemented, and you’re right about the technical challenges this would impose. There’s gonna be like a dozen different ways the data can be sorted and that would be up to user preference. It would have to be single host rather than federated unfortunately, but that doesn’t necessarily mean evil. PM me if you wanna hear about it.

Hjalamanger ,
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commune is a semi unique fedderated social media

z3rOR0ne OP ,

Love the illustration on their home page. Looks like a very new project.

rufus ,

Nice. Looks a bit like Revolt, Rocketchat, other standard Matrix clients, maybe even inspired by Discord or whatever people use. I’m curious to find out how they applied the Matrix protocol to power this.

N0x0n ,

Looks very neat! Thanks for the link, Something to keep an eye on !

Kierunkowy74 ,
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Friendica provides blogging, microblogging, pictures, friend circles (but they work only for Friendica users), and multiple identities managed by single login.

And there is a fediverse marketplace software - Flohmarkt - instances

rufus ,

AWESOME! Thanks for linking the Flohmarkt project. I’ve been looking for something like this for quite some time and all I found was abandoned projects, and things that didn’t make it. I’m going to have a closer look at it and install an instance if it proves to be what I was looking for.

match , to asklemmy in What Major Social Media Platforms Would You Like To See Federated Alternatives To That Don't Exist Yet?
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I don’t feel like Twitch / livestreaming is well-supported yet (OwnCast is sort of a different approach to it)

edit: TikTok also is a livestreaming platform

N0x0n ,

I saw something similar to twitch working in the blockchain architecture. It seems like a cool project where bandwidth is shared among users. But the crypto-scheme leaves a kinda strange feeling about it.

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