And you could upgrade them too. Back when socketed CPUs existed on laptops along with expansion slots, and batteries were removable with a thumb latch (and most laptops could run on the power adapter without the battery being installed, which prevented trickle charging related battery degradation, perfect for a “desktop replacement” that would spend a lot of its time hooked up to power before that category of laptops even really existed). Good times.
They even had a super compact version. Something like a d400. Was awesome for datacenter/console work. Had a serial port, vga and was like 12.3 inches and only a few pounds despite being stout.
I think I used a d6xx for a while longer than I should have just because of that serial port and how bad usb to serial adapters were back then.
Unfortunately the d420 had a slower processor and would struggle as a desktop replacement.
As far as I understand, they were offering free hosting and bad actors took advantage. They didn’t want to start charging so they closed down. Like giving out candies on Halloween and one asshole takes the whole bowl. No candies for you kid, sorry.
What i don’t get is how nvidia stock is exploding when using their hardware for AI is a nightmare on Linux. How are companies doing this? Are they just offering enterprise support to ibsiders or something?
For what it’s worth, NVIDIA’s failings on Linux tend to be mostly in the desktop experience. As a compute device driven by cuda and not responsible for the display buffer, they work plenty good. Enterprise will not be running hardware GUI or DEs on the machines that do the AI work, if at all.
I’ve had a bunch of issues with my GTX 1080 before I switched to an AMD RX 5700 XT. I love it, but I recently put the 1080 back in use for a headless game streaming server for my brother. It’s been working really well, handling both rendering and encoding at 1080p without issue, so I guess I’ve arrived at the same conclusion. They don’t really care about desktop usage, but once you’re not directly interacting with a display server on an Nvidia GPU, it’s fine.
Nvidia is a breeze on linux vs amd. cuda is the only thing meaningfully supported across Windows and Linux. I fought with my 6900xt for so long trying to get ROCm working that I eventually bought a used 1080ti just to do the AI/ML stuff I wanted to do. I threw that into a server and had everything up and running in literally 10 minutes (and 5 minutes was making proxmox pass the gpu through to the VM).
People want to bitch about nvidia, but their entire ecosystem is better than AMD. The documentation is better and the tooling is better. On paper AMD is competitive but in practice Nvidia has so much more going for it–especially if you are doing any sort of AI/ML.
There are some benefits to to amd on linux; its the reason I replaced my 3070ti for a 6900xt. But that experience taught me: 1. AMD isn’t as good on linux as people give it credit for 2. nvidia isn’t as bad on linux as people blame it for. You trade different issues. Eg. Lose nvenc and cant use amf unless you use the amdpro driver not the open source one. if you use the pro driver you immediately lose half the benefits of the open source driver which is probably why you switch to amd on linux to begin with. So if you game, you can’t stream with a decent encoder–so you have to play with settings and throw cpu horsepower at it.
But hey, my DE doesn’t stutter and I dont have to do kludgy workarounds to get some games to play.
It took a little tweaking but I have Iray and Dforce working for Daz3D under Wine, and FFXIV runs great with it as well. Also got Stable Diffusion running last night without any issues.
All the issues I’ve had have been requiring extra packages or installing some random github nvlibs, and kernel parameters. So as a user, the fact that my nvidia card didn’t work painlessly out of the box without additional configs doesn’t seem like an Nvidia problem…
Yikes… I hoped that Daz3D would just work fine with Iray for my next nvidia card. Add to this that I was planning to switch to Vanilla OS because I don’t want to hack my system or accidentally bork it 😑.
Nvidia does not ‘hate’ Linux, Nvidia simply never thinks about Linux. They need to keep secrets so people can’t buy the cheap card and with a little programming turn it into the expensive card.
Of course you do. Nvidia wants you to buy the expensive card instead. Since they are almost the same card in some instances the only difference is knowing that you can change values in certain registers to make cheapcard act like expensivecard. I personally use Intel graphics and won’t have nvidea.
This. I bet the experience is better if you use it on an enterprise distro they have precompiled drivers for.
With the boom in AI their focus is increasingly on the data center market, so it’s a small miracle (thanks Red Hat and others prodding them) they even have an open driver right now for newer cards (tellingly it’s in a better state for computational use than for rendering pixels on the screen)
I call them “novideo” because the nvidia GPU in a PC someone gave me was the bane of my existence on Linux. I ended up buying a Radeon for it because I got so tired of having no video after security updates. Nvidia seems to hate everybody except Windows for some reason. Even Apple ditched them long before they ditched Intel.
But yet, it seems like the majority of Linux users have nvidia anyway.
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>But yet, it seems like the majority of Linux users have nvidia anyway.
Probably becouse it's more popular among windows users, so when most people switch to linux from Windows, they use the hardware they already had, which more often than not includes an nvidia GPU
Nvidia seems to hate everybody except Windows for some reason.
It’s called money. Microsoft and all these big tech companies have lots of agreements with eachother to support certain choices and ignore others. This is also why Lenovo has very limited choice of amd processors, and if they put that in, it’s in a model with other serious flaws.
But it’s still stupid, especially if it’s about money, since Nvidia wants to sell a lot of chips to the Android market. And with Linux users being dumb enough to keep buying Nvidia products and using their mediocre proprietary drivers, nothing will ever change.
it is a horribly slow, ugly language, with the most braindead scoping rules (apart from js, of course). The only fast parts of it are libraries written in other languages, because python itself is not up to the task for anything more than glueing code from other, better languages together.
Honestly JS seams saner then python, it’s wierd but rather sane. The only really bad parts of JS are the type coercing == and =! operators which are very broken
For example “” == 0 and 0 == “0” are both true, but “0” == “” is false.
this is an unpopular opinion of mine, but I think lua is, in turn, a saner version of js. Apart from the 1-based indexing (which really isn’t that big a deal imo). But I really love the stackful coroutines.
I haven’t worked with any 1-based indexing languages, but I can’t really see how it could be problematic. The only advantage I see about 0-based indexing is the simplicity in how the memory address is calculated. Just arr + index × sizeof(member) which I think even has its own MOV instruction on x86. But besides that I can’t see any more advantages. With 1-based indexing I see the advantage of the number of elements also being the index of the last element of the array, avoiding off-by-one errors when writing. Though, again, I’ve never used a 1-based indexing language.
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