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Maeve , to til in TIL that at age 17, in 1980, Jodie Foster already had a decent handle on why some in the US are so thick about the situation in Palestine

Jodie Foster has always been one of my favorite actresses. This is another plus for her ethical character.

dhhyfddehhfyy4673 , to til in TIL that at age 17, in 1980, Jodie Foster already had a decent handle on why some in the US are so thick about the situation in Palestine

It's more basic than that even. It's the fact that most people know fuck all about any history. Specifically here, there's more than a century's worth of history on Zionism (and colonialism is indeed relevant) that people know almost nothing about.

lolcatnip ,

It can be summarized in a few sentences, though.

SteveFromMySpace , to til in TIL that at age 17, in 1980, Jodie Foster already had a decent handle on why some in the US are so thick about the situation in Palestine

That take is based as fuck for 1980

aramis87 , to til in TIL that at age 17, in 1980, Jodie Foster already had a decent handle on why some in the US are so thick about the situation in Palestine

Jodie Foster has an IQ of like 132, and graduated from Yale.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

She also caused the attempted assassination of a president.

stoly ,

If you mean that she’s also a victim, then yes.

zaph ,

caused

Seek help.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

On March 30, 1981, then President of the United States Ronald Reagan was shot and wounded by John Hinckley Jr. in Washington, D.C., as he was returning to his limousine after a speaking engagement at the Washington Hilton. Hinckley believed the attack would impress actress Jodie Foster, with whom he had developed an erotomanicobsession after viewing her in the 1976 film Taxi Driver.

(Full article link.)

kn33 ,

If it wasn’t her, it’d be someone else. She didn’t cause shit. That dude’s mental illness did.

zaph ,

Do you think I don’t know the story? Again, seek help.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

I wasn’t the one who caused the situation, I wasn’t even born yet.

Why are you angry at me?

nieminen ,

I don’t think they’re angry at you. I imagine they couldn’t care less if they tried, but I’m sure they’re confused how you seem to think that the target of an infatuation is somehow responsible for the actions of the infatuated person. This strikes me as a very small step away from “It’s her fault she got r***ed, look how she’s dressed”.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

But we’re not talking about rape, we’re talking about the attempted assassination of the president of the United States in 1981.

protist ,

And you’re saying Jodie Foster caused that. How did she cause that? By being alive? Just admit you’re wrong and say “I’m sorry, John Hinckley actually caused that,” and we can all go about our days.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

The Wikipedia article says that too.

protist ,

Quote it

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

It’s up a couple comments, I trust your ability to find it.

protist ,

It doesn’t say anywhere above this how Jodie Foster “caused” John Hinckley to shoot at Ronald Reagan. Quote it or gtfo

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

I like it when you demean me.

Do it again, daddy.

protist ,

I don’t fuck fat little piggies who failed intro to logic

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Damn that’s hot.

protist ,

SMCF getting off on masochism and victim-blaming

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Just the masochism.

zaph ,

Angry? I apologize if I’ve come across that way. I’m worried about you. The idea that someone can look at this situation and blame Jodi Foster makes me worry about you and how you must struggle every day. I sincerely hope you seek help and can look at the world in a better way that doesn’t cause you to blame victims for other people’s actions.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Thanks for the apology.

zaph ,

You’re very welcome 🤗

tfw_no_toiletpaper ,

Based

Tyfud ,

Bro. You’re an asshole.

sharkfucker420 ,
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And the world would have been better off if he had died

octopus_ink OP ,

True, but it’s not like intelligence (nor attendance of a prestigious university) guarantees empathy or critical thinking skills.

someacnt_ ,

Yeah, the numbers do not do justice for her.

ArbitraryValue , to til in TIL that at age 17, in 1980, Jodie Foster already had a decent handle on why some in the US are so thick about the situation in Palestine

It’s funny because I have the opposite impression. Some Americans feel guilty after studying American history. (Why feel guilty? You’re not the ones responsible.) These Americans seek to absolve themselves of that perceived guilt by identifying something far away that matches the “white vs non white” pattern that they’re looking for, so that they can feel righteous by condemning it without actually having to change how they live their own lives.

Carrolade ,

Less about guilt, more of a sorrow and trying to make the future better than the past, instead of the same or worse. I’ve never met anyone that claimed to feel guilt, or looked like they were experiencing it or anything though.

Andrzej ,

The thing is when you’re the global hegemon there’s no such thing as ‘far away’

Duamerthrax ,

It’s not like American tax dollars aren’t supporting Israel’s genocide efforts. I’m supporting that regardless of whether or not I want to.

condemning it without actually having to change how they live their own lives.

Tell that to the protesters getting assaulted by police.

lolcatnip ,

Why feel guilty? You’re not the ones responsible.

We still enjoy the benefits of it, and Native Americans still get fucked over by the US government on the regular. Also, have you considered we just maybe think ethnic cleansing is wrong regardless of who does it.

But don’t let me stop you from psychoanalyzing the motives of people you’ve never had a conversation with.

mozz , to til in TIL that at age 17, in 1980, Jodie Foster already had a decent handle on why some in the US are so thick about the situation in Palestine
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BOB: Well, when you have TIME magazine do a cover story on Palestinian rights you see that the perception of the problem is changing.

Any fuckin day now

would_be_appreciated ,

He’s referring to this cover from April 14, 1980: content.time.com/time/…/1101800414_400.jpgThe full article is here: time.com/archive/6857830/key-to-a-wider-peace/

It’s not hard-hitting journalism by any means, but it recognizes the idea that maybe not everybody loves the idea of Israel wiping out the Palestinians. That’s progress to some degree for US mass media 44 years ago.

someguy3 ,

It’s a generational thing. And religious thing too (which is also a generational thing).

metaStatic ,

BOB: If you go to Mexico or Morocco they offer you their brothers and sisters left and right for two dollars.

I have 2 dollars ...

can ,
Vespair , to music in Chappell Roan on Queers, Fears, and Surviving Superstardom

I like Roan’s music quite a lot, but they are quickly reaching the pop culture saturation point where I can’t tolerate seeing the name anymore.

Can we please just keep our focus on an artist’s artistic output and not get caught up in the dumb trappings of celebrity worship?

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