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SeveralAnts , to pics in Kummakivi is a 500.000 kg rock in Finland that has been balancing on another rock for 11.000 years

Can anyone tell me why the bottom rock is so smooth? I imagine people come and sit on it and touch them both frequently, and that they are two rocks from different places but they each look very dissimilar. I guess what I am really asking, is the bottom rock so smooth because of the big boy topping it?

disheveledWallaby ,

Likely glaciation, the bottom rock was likely on the bottom of an ice sheet and millions of tons of ice moving over it over time had smoothed it out.

The top rock is probably from many miles away and was carried and placed there from the receding glacier. To me the top rock looks like it is a completely different type of stone then the bottom.

SeveralAnts ,

Awesome. That would make sense.

satanmat , to pics in Þrídrangaviti Lighthouse, Iceland

We’ve been trying to reach you about your car’s extended warranty…

cornshark , to pics in Þrídrangaviti Lighthouse, Iceland

How does one get to it? I see a helipad but it says it was constructed originally without one.

YurkshireLad ,

Catapult?

rdyoung ,

Parachute?

fuzzy_feeling ,

both?

Glowstick ,

Apparently you just had to climb it!

en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Thridrangaviti_Lighthouse

cornshark ,

I think you’re referring to how it was originally constructed, with expert climbers scaling the cliff and having to stand on each other’s shoulders to get to the top. But the article says that was to establish “a road” without any indication of what that is or how one uses it today.

MxM111 ,

I guess it is chains. They are mentioned specifically in Wikipedia. It could have been chain ladder.

bstix ,

It’s accessible only by helicopter. No one has ever lived there, so people only go there when it needs maintenance. It’s been automated from the “start” which was delayed due to the war.

morrowind ,
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The first thing we had to do was create a road up to the cliff. We got together of experienced mountaineers, all from the Westman Islands. Then we brought drills, hammers, chains and clamps to secure the chains. Once they got near the top there was no way to get any grip on the rock so one of them got down on his knees, the second stood on his back, and then the third climbed on top of the other two and was able to reach the nib of the cliff above. I cannot even tell you how I was feeling whilst witnessing this incredibly dangerous procedure.

From the Wikipedia

cornshark ,

This refers to how it was originally constructed, but it’s not clear what “a road” is or how one uses it today.

Peter1986C ,
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A proverbial road, lol. Please read.

Drusas ,

I wonder how they got the materials for building the lighthouse up there.

vocornflakes ,

Is this “road” in the room with us right now?

morrowind ,
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Not unless we’re both hanging off a terrifying cliff in Iceland

Maeve ,

Yes, I'm wondering if helicopter is the only access currently, as well. That's wild.

HubertManne ,

me2

JohnDClay , to pics in Kummakivi is a 500.000 kg rock in Finland that has been balancing on another rock for 11.000 years

Very impressive from that view! But more stable than that tiny contact point would suggest.

Side view

mechoman444 , to pics in New Zealand shown from the International Space Station

Woh woh woh. How did you get the earth to curve like that! It’s supposed to be flat!

summerof69 , to pics in Kummakivi is a 500.000 kg rock in Finland that has been balancing on another rock for 11.000 years

I can’t believe it weights just 500kg! But what happened 11 years ago? Who put it there?

stom ,

You reguegitated the top comment from Reddit, where this was posted 24 hours before it was posted here.

summerof69 ,

I’m sorry that somebody wrote a similar post on reddit. I hope you’ll forgive me one day for having similar thoughts…

stom ,

It’s bad enough that this post is a direct copy of a trending Reddit post (down to the weird number formatting), to find the comments are also just copy pasted highlights of stunning lack of originality

hx13 ,

It’s pretty funny that you think it’s weird.

Predator ,
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I think they just hate reddit.

summerof69 ,

If you think that I go on reddit to copy comments you’re batshit crazy man. Find a doctor or something.

iegod ,

The tireless work of the repost police must be exhausting. You lone hero you.

niktemadur , to pics in Kummakivi is a 500.000 kg rock in Finland that has been balancing on another rock for 11.000 years

The age sends my imagination racing, I wonder if there was a Proto-Indo-European name for it, as a remote curiosity/enigma.

“They say that somewhere up north, half a moon beyond the most remote village, there is a large stone put on top of another by the hand of the Earth Goddess herself.”

realitista , to pics in Kummakivi is a 500.000 kg rock in Finland that has been balancing on another rock for 11.000 years

I don’t care how long this has been going on, I ain’t fucking around near that thing.

cloudless , to lemmyshitpost in Edited in Signal

If you use a Chinese phone, they still know where you are.

tsugu ,
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Why should this even matter? Every android has a proprietary parts of code that need to be included even in custom roms. In case of ios devices, the entire OS is proprietary. I would much rather use a Chinese android phone with an unlocked bootloader than an american iphone.

fatalError ,

They are all the same, all spying in you. The only difference between them is who’s doing the spying and to what degree.

woelkchen ,
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a Chinese android phone with an unlocked bootloader

Unlocked bootloader doesn’t automatically lead to good community ROM support, though.

x4740N ,
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You still need to trust the manufacturer

Also the drivers and hardware can be backdoored

AMDIsOurLord ,

A lot of Chinese phones use Snapdragon, so you can rest easy knowing Chinese companies don’t have access to your location or some other bullshit

Meanwhile NSA has their hands so far up your ass you need a guest appearance on The Muppets

This entire “technological sinophobia” is nothing but the evolution of yellow peril racism

sebinspace ,

Hey, look at this guy! He thinks Qualcomm gives a shit about his privacy!

Both American and Chinese phones use Snapdragon chips. If the American government is spying on you, despite your phone having said Snapdragon, what makes you think the Chinese government isn’t also spying?

Your whataboutism is slightly concerning, it’s not like China is also home to Hauwei or anything…

Rustmilian ,
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Jokes on you, I use a Windows Fone. /s

VeganCheesecake , (edited )
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And if it’s one with a Snapdragon CPU, the NSA probably knows too. And while China is rather authoritarian, and I’d be worried if I lived there, currently I’m more worried about surveillance by a government that has more influence on the country I live in, and likely shares data with my countries intelligence services.

Which of course doesn’t mean I like the thought they might be doing mass surveillance of people.

WarlordSdocy ,

Yeah this is exactly how I feel. Like sure I don’t want China to spy on me but I don’t plan to go to China so it doesn’t really matter. What matters more is the USA spying on me cause I live there and that could mean actual consequences if people like Trump get in power and try to go after people that don’t agree with them.

Legend , (edited )

I think CPU backdoors are just a theoratically possible thing with almost zero chance of happening or succeeding without anyone noticing or having massive consequences and would bring massive changes to the industry like open source makers sprouting up (because it would open up a market where the open aourc chips could be profitable) because if snapdragon really could do that i don’t think china will make phones with them . Also its not worth it because everything you could ever want could be scooped from users os/apps/sites and is far much easy/profitable/easier to get out scot free etc . Anyways i could be wrong about everything so take it with a grain of salt and feel free to correct me .

VeganCheesecake ,
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I’m not talking about the CPU itself. If I remember correctly, phones with Snapdragon CPUs usually have packages from qualcomm installed, and there have been reports about them sending data to qualcomm.

Legend , (edited )

Welp this article is kinda trouble some as

1 They do not say what they caught qualcomm with for no reason.

2 They have a header called sony and fairphone are affected and many more and continues to say thay until the end when they reveal they didn’t even test fairphone and just assumed it must be because they use qualcom chips too .

3 Why throw so much shade at fairphone like there are much more popular devices such as samsung and shit ? They also at the end boasts about their phone not using qualcomm and being more secure .

4 We don’t even know if that proprietry blob by qualcomm could be disabled or deleted and they didn’t even try it on better roms like graphene or anything and they should’ve tried if an android firewall could block it .

All in all nice article and i never trusted Qualcomm or any other hardware vendors who all hide behind proprietary hardwares anyway and no one should as they all will stab you in the back as soon as it is feasible i’m sure . I just don’t think hardware/cpu backdoor is tge way and had hope for qualcomm as they seemed to invest in RISC V a while back which nothing came of anyway . All in all fuck Qualcomm and everyone else .

Again i could be wrong about everything so take it with a grain of salt and feel free to correct me .

VeganCheesecake ,
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They seem to point at the qualcomm privacy policy to show what’s being collected. It does seem strange that they’re not analysing the packets themselves, especially since they’re claiming the data is unencrypted. The article is quite sensationalist, probably to help sell their very expensive (one might dare saying overpriced) Pixels with preinstalled Graphene.

It’s still good to keep in mind that qualcomm seems to be collecting personalised data, which they’d likely hand over to US intelligence or law enforcement if requested to, and that at least some custom roms come with the proprietary packages that facilitate this.

HonoraryMancunian , to pics in Kummakivi is a 500.000 kg rock in Finland that has been balancing on another rock for 11.000 years

I’m not convinced that weighs 500 tons, that’s the same as at least 65 of the largest African elephants or 2.5 of the largest blue whales

SkyeStarfall , (edited )

After some googling, some of the heavier rock types are 3g/cm^3, which is 3000kg/m^3

If we use the person as a rough ruler of 1.6m, the rock is about 5 person wide, and 3 person high (eye measure), give or take. And if we say it’s 3 person deep, then it has a rough mass of 5331.63000 = 216 000 kg, which is in the same order of magnitude.

Close enough to check out, I’d say.

Edit: I realized since the actual ruler we use is 1.6m (assumed), it should be multiplied by 1.6 three times (one for each dimension/length), not just once. If we do that, we end up with 921 600 kg instead, putting 500 000 kg well within the range of possibilities from a quick calculation.

Edit 2: as pointed out below, the actual correct estimation would be 553 tons

Hule ,

You got me confused.

5331.63000

is the same as

[(51.6) + (31.6) + (3*1.6)]*3000

SkyeStarfall ,

5331.6 is not the same as (51.6)(31.6)(31.6), however

The reason we multiply with 1.6 on every dimension is because the ruler we use is 1.6m long. We effectively create a new unit, and have to convert. If a length is 5 person wide, then in reality it’s 5*1.6 = 8 meters long, where 1.6 is the conversion ratio from the unit of ‘person’ to the unit of ‘meter’. And this applies for every individual measurement.

Also, 5331.6 is not the same as (51.6)+(31.6)+(31.6) in the first place

Hule ,

Yes, i must have been sleeping while looking at the numbers :)

protist , (edited )

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  • Hule ,

    You’re right…

    MenacingPerson ,

    Um, wouldn’t we be dividing by 1.6 instead of multiplying?

    HonoraryMancunian ,

    Your edit is correct except I get 553 tons! I’m still shocked it’d easily tip the scales vs 2 large blue whales

    Edit: ahh you accidentally did 5x5x3 instead of 5x3x3

    EddoWagt ,

    I’m still shocked it’d easily tip the scales vs 2 large blue whales

    Rocks are dense and blubber not so much, I suppose

    SkyeStarfall ,

    Oh, whoops, I did make a mistake! Thanks for the correction

    MehBlah ,

    Useless. We all want something standard. Like how many pygmy marmosets that is.

    MadBob ,

    Morning, yes, I’ll have 65 of your largest African elephants please.

    DrRatso , to pics in Kummakivi is a 500.000 kg rock in Finland that has been balancing on another rock for 11.000 years

    Nice, what bouldering grade?

    Ultragigagigantic , to pics in Kummakivi is a 500.000 kg rock in Finland that has been balancing on another rock for 11.000 years
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    What happened 11,000 years ago?

    GoodEye8 ,

    Ice age

    pmk ,

    The ice sheet covering northern europe started to melt away, and with that we got what is called “glacial erratics”. Rocks had traveled from once place to another, and then settled. In Sweden we call those “giants throw”, because it was assumed that the only way those big rocks could be where they are was if a giant had thrown it.

    lauha ,

    In Finland those are called siirtolohkare (moved boulder) or hiidenkivi (devil’s rock)

    pmk ,

    I think we have the same terminology then, we also call them “flyttblock”. Is there a story behind them being called Devil’s rock? It sounds very finnish to me to be honest.

    Dasus ,
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    Well “hiisi” translates to “devil” but that’s very much a political translation as far as such things existed back then.

    Translating “Hiisi” as “the Devil” is quite a fuck-the-pagans translation.

    Hiisi (Finnish pronunciation: [ˈhiːsi]; plural hiidet [ˈhiːdet]) is a term in Finnic mythologies, originally denoting sacred localities and later on various types of mythological entities

    Hiisi was originally a spirit of hill forests (Abercromby 1898). In Estonian hiis (or his) means a sacred grove in trees, usually on elevated ground. In the spells (“magic songs”) of the Finns the term Hiisi is often used in association with a hill or mountain, as a personage he also associated with the hills and mountains, such as the owner or ruler of the same. His name is also commonly associated with forests, and some forest animals.

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiisi

    I think “the Fae” would be a more accurate translation, theology-wise.

    lauha ,

    It’s not literally devil (paholainen) but Hiisi, which is something similar in finnish mythology which obviously doesn’t have a translation.

    It’s likely simply “only devil could have brought that stone here”

    card797 ,

    You’re not gonna believe it.

    ohwhatfollyisman ,

    it was actually around 11025 years ago. i first heard about this in 1999, and it was 11000 years then.

    Harbinger01173430 , to pics in Kummakivi is a 500.000 kg rock in Finland that has been balancing on another rock for 11.000 years

    When earthquake?

    veloxization ,
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    Finland is not close enough to the edges of tectonic plates, so if we get earthquakes here at all, they’re barely noticeable.

    Thorny_Insight ,

    so if we get earthquakes here at all, they’re barely noticeable.

    …and caused by the sea bed rising after it was compressed because of the weight of the glacier during the ice age

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Not being close to a plate does not necessarily mean only small quakes.

    There were a series of what today would be absolutely devastating earthquakes in the Midwestern U.S., far from any tectonic plates, between 1811 and 1812.

    en.wikipedia.org/…/1811–1812_New_Madrid_earthquak…

    veloxization ,
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    Being in the middle of the large and relatively stable Eurasian plate does help, though. The Mediterranean region, being closer to the edge region, does experience quite a bit more, though, and some strong ones have historically been felt all the way up here, too.

    Jon_Servo , to pics in New Zealand shown from the International Space Station

    Kinda looks like Ohio…

    Jiggle_Physics ,

    Bruh, have you ever seen Ohio?

    Jon_Servo ,
    Zahille7 , to games in Garry Newman verifies the takedowns from Nintendo are legitimate

    This sucks.

    But on one hand it’ll clear up a decent chunk of my addon library.

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