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rsuri , to technology in Jack Dorsey claims Bluesky is 'repeating all the mistakes' he made at Twitter

Bluesky saw this exodus of people from Twitter show up, and it was a very, very common crowd. … But little by little, they started asking Jay and the team for moderation tools, and to kick people off. And unfortunately they followed through with it. That was the second moment I thought, uh, nope. This is literally repeating all the mistakes we made as a company.”

This is the same problem that all these “free speech platforms” keep running into. Some people will abuse free speech - if nothing else, I think everyone can agree spam is a type of abusive speech. But the difference between abusive speech and ordinary speech isn’t a sharp line, and the definitions of “abuse” will vary. So there needs to be some mechanism or rules for deciding what that line is. But all the people that create these platforms instead wanna pretend that line doesn’t exist, so they don’t create a means of determining it. So then “abuse” becomes whatever the users demand and/or the decisionmakers decide it is. Which is exactly the same as having no free speech to begin with.

Cuntessera ,
@Cuntessera@sh.itjust.works avatar

Which is why I applaud Bluesky’s innovative approach to moderation. It’s truly decentralized and decoupled from the server you’re signed up to.

nutsack ,

what

festus ,

They’ve designed their platform so that you can outsource different aspects to different servers. So you can choose a moderator who curates your experience and that’s a different person from who hosts your data, which may be different to who sorts and determines the ‘top posts’.

Cuntessera ,
@Cuntessera@sh.itjust.works avatar

Bluesky has moderation accounts you can follow like regular accounts that basically flag or hide posts according to how you configure them. This differs from the Fedi model where your chosen instance dictates what you see. There is the standard account that every user follows by default, but even that can be configured to your liking. And if you don’t want it on, you can disable it and follow a different account that moderates content to your liking.

I, for once, don’t like seeing insects, something that shouldn’t be moderated because there are valid reasons for posting pictures of insects. On Bluesky, I can follow a moderation account for phobias and have it hide any pictures I wouldn’t wanna see.

Thanks to that, Bluesky is more flexible IMO and requires me to do less for more. Unlike the fediverse where I have to maintain my own filter lists which don’t always work when pictures get posted without alt text or keywords found in the filter list.

cocobean ,

That…actually sounds cool? So why is this considered a mistake?

Cuntessera ,
@Cuntessera@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don’t know, don’t ask me. People always find stupid shit to be outraged about, but this one is really not it tbh. I personally love it and hope the Fediverse adopts something similar to it or even just reuses the same open source code for these labeling accounts (as they’re called over there), albeit adapted to the ActivityPub protocol.

HighElfMage ,

Because Jack Dorsey is obsessed with the same “free speech absolutism” that Elon Musk is, and he’s butter that people don’t want to be shown Nazi propaganda, hate speech, and all that other shit on his platforms.

Dorsey is an idiot, just like Musk. Don’t let their money fool you.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

So why is this considered a mistake?

I imagine that much granularity fucks with their efforts to introduce ads.

nutsack ,

ah interesting. can i check to see how many blacklists ive ended up on

kcuf ,

You could always brute force comparisons between different mods

GardenVarietyAnxiety , to technology in Jack Dorsey claims Bluesky is 'repeating all the mistakes' he made at Twitter

He looks like if Peter Dinklage had a baby with John Krasinski

JoMomma ,

He looks like a child wearing a fake beard while standing on another child’s shoulders in a trenchcoat

GardenVarietyAnxiety ,

I can see it

jwt ,

“I went to the bluesky board meeting today, I did a business!”

state_electrician ,

He looks like tech bro Rasputin.

DarkThoughts , to gaming in Why Baldur’s Gate III is an accidental PS5 console exclusive

Are we ignoring the PC as a platform?

OtakuAltair ,

And kind of a console too lol with the steam deck

DarkThoughts ,

The Steam Deck is a full fledged Linux PC in a handheld format.

sudoreboot ,
@sudoreboot@slrpnk.net avatar

and a console

Master ,
@Master@beehaw.org avatar

xbox one OS is windows 10 core. That doesnt make it “not a console”

maynarkh ,

The point I think is that a “console” is from a certain PoV a locked down piece of hardware only able to run certain software in certain ways. So eg. Stadia was a console, while AWS virtual desktops are not, despite both being just VMs running on some cloud service.

Point is, it’s the software that makes a console, not the hardware.

DarkThoughts ,

A console is a closed off system. The Deck is literally just a Linux PC in handheld format. You can do everything with it, Valve even explicitly encourages you to do that.

CalcProgrammer1 ,
@CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

The Steam Deck really blurs the lines between PC and console. Modern consoles use AMD64/Radeon hardware and at least the Xbox consoles use a modified Windows OS. The Steam Deck uses AMD64/Radeon hardware and a modified Linux OS. Both feature a controller-focused user interface centered around gaming.

If you exclude the Steam Deck from the definition of “console” then a console is defined by its restrictive nature and limited selection of games.

If you include the Steam Deck in the definition of “console” then a console is defined by its controller-friendly and gaming-first design (as opposed to a general purpose PC).

I feel both definitions have merit.

DarkThoughts ,

It really doesn't. Consoles are a completely closed off system, to the point where modifying it can get you banned from online services. The Deck is the complete opposite to that, with Valve even explicitly encouraging you to tinker with it. It always has been advertised as being a full PC, because you can do all the things you can do on a PC. You can literally go into desktop mode and have your regular KDE Plasma screen.

By your definition every gaming PC would count as being a console. That's just nonsense.

CalcProgrammer1 ,
@CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

I feel like this is a modernized definition of “console”. The earliest consoles distinguished themselves from the computers of the time by being gaming-first, not by being restrictive and closed off. Things that defined a console were not coming with a keyboard or mouse, connecting primarily to a television rather than a monitor, and using a joystick or gamepad for input.

There were a lot of instances of third party published games for consoles in the past, whether officially licensed or unofficial, approved or unapproved. The online service definition ignores half of the console generations in video gaming history. There were a lot of unlicensed/3rd party games published for the 8-bit and 16-bit era consoles (and yes, some of those had to bypass security chips, but I don’t think all of them did).

I think in some ways the Steam Deck is a return to form of these earlier machines, but in a modern way (and handheld). Valve’s openness isn’t a good reason to not consider the Steam Deck a console. I fully agree that it is a PC, but I feel like it fits both definitions in the best way possible.

DarkThoughts ,

They weren't gaming first, they were gaming only. You didn't load up an office program on an atari or snes. That didn't really change until they combined them for media purposes, like playing CDs, DVDs & BDs, and even that was extremely limited and without consistency.

No idea what your homebrew / piracy paragraph is supposed to be in regards to this topic though. That's not just not official, but straight up "illegal" in the minds of their creators. As a kid I personally owned one of those SNES adapters where you'd plug in a floppy disk and would rip the game from the cardridge into a rom. If we were caught with that we might've even got into legal trouble. On a Deck you can copy & paste all the files you want. You can download and run all the programs you want, albeit a tiny bit more restricted than your regular desktop distro. But in essence, it's still a full fledged PC, with everything that comes with it, and you could use it just for non gaming purposes if you so wish.

It's simply that. A Linux PC in a handheld format.

Eccitaze ,
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This is admittedly REALLY pedantic, but there were some non-game cartridges released for the NES and SNES, such as Taboo: The Sixth Sense (a tarot card reading program), Miracle Piano (a program for teaching how to play the piano), Mario Paint (a basic music composition and drawing program), and a modem add-on for the Famicom that supported banking, stock trading, and horse race betting.

CalcProgrammer1 ,
@CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

I wasn’t referring to piracy, I was referring to unofficial releases. Think Wisdom Tree and their line of Bible Games for the NES/SNES (these are pretty well covered by YouTube creators which is why I mention them as an example). Also, some of the early consoles did have non-gaming uses. I believe there was a version of BASIC for the Atari 2600. There were several planned online communication systems for various early consoles. There was the “Work Boy” accessory for the Game Boy that turned it into a digital assistant/organizer. There were officially licensed cooking “games” for the Nintendo DS that were more of recipe collections than actual games. And you touched on media, which was another thing consoles did outside of gaming since CD drives became used on consoles. Wii Fit was more of a fitness accessory than it was a game.

Pretty much the only thing that separates PC from console in your definition is whether you can run your own code on it. I don’t disagree that being able to run your own code on a machine is a huge benefit, but do you consider the iPhone a console? What about the Amazon Echo Show? Smart fridge? These have the locked down ecosystems of consoles but aren’t gaming-first. I would say no, they are not consoles and I’m sure you would agree.

o_oli ,

Is the PC a console? No. So it can be ‘console exclusive’ on PS5.

storksforlegs ,
@storksforlegs@beehaw.org avatar

But there are certain titles that are only on PS5 and not PC?

o_oli ,

Of course yeah. But more often than not PC isn’t factored in when something is called exclusive or not because honestly PC and Consoles aren’t in competition in the same way consoles are with each other.

d3m0nr4v3r ,

That’s a matter of perspective I guess…

nunchuk ,

Someone should tell Sony since they only release their games on PC after like 2-3 years have passed :(

Lethtor ,

Ghost of Tsushima is a PlayStation exclusive game (so far at least, fingers crossed it’ll come to PC soon), but God of War 2018 is a PlayStation console exclusive, small but important distinction

DarkThoughts ,

No. If it were a PS5 exclusive it wouldn't be released on the PC.

LetMeEatCake ,

Topic title is “PS5 console exclusive” emphasis on “console”. On consoles, it will be a PS5 exclusive for an indeterminate length of time.

DarkThoughts ,

The PS5 is a console. If it were a console exclusive, it would still not be released on the PC.

RaivoKulli ,

I think they’re saying it’s exclusive on consoles to PS5. But it’s not exclusive to PS5, the console.

The title is confusing for sure.

Warpedtwistedbody ,
@Warpedtwistedbody@sopuli.xyz avatar

The Steam Deck is at least a console hybrid, and it works on that.

ursakhiin ,

I’m playing it on the Steam Deck, but it definitely has issues. Have to occasionally restart the game because it starts lagging or being able to interact.

Scrappy ,

Occasionally? Like more than 1 time during a play session?

CalcProgrammer1 ,
@CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

I played it all weekend on my Steam Deck with no issues. I played it handheld for a while and docked on my TV for a while.

ursakhiin ,

You’ve definitely been fortunate.

It’s far from unplayable. I’m still enjoying it. But it does have some issues.

curiousaur ,

I have like 70 hours on it only on the deck. Zero issues. I think you need to stop saying it has issues just because you have issues. It seems to just be a you thing.

Polar , to technology in Reddit is testing verification labels for brands

Since when do brands want to be known on Reddit? Isn’t the entire point to make a bunch of fake accounts and post positive comments about said brand, to make them look good?

HEY REDDIT, WHAT’S A BRAND YOU’LL BUY FOR LIFE!?

Queue the thousands of totally not brand accounts posting why said product is so perfect and you’ll never buy any other brand again!

Nythos ,

For guerrilla marketing techniques sure

But for official advertisements I imagine they would want to do them on a verified account.

Rentlar ,

Like that disgusting “Samsung AMA” which was just a campaign for their S20-something. They deleted any question that wasn’t basically, “what’s so cool about [this feature] on the S20-something that I’m planning to get?”

vmachiel ,

But now the verified account can be like: ooo wow, we are totally humbled by the love for our product thank you so much you guys!!

XanXic ,

Then that will get screenshotted and posted on r/wholesome r/wholesomememes and r/mademesmile then make the rounds there forever.

r00ty Admin ,
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They would of course keep their astroturfing accounts unmarked, of course. But they might want a corporate mountpiece account. Like they have on twitter.

LazaroFilm ,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

Have on official account to post announcements then bots to upvote it.

keeb420 ,

ive seen in the nreal, now xreal, sub where having people from the company to talk to about issues helps. im not trying to market anything but just use an example. i doubt thats what they are going for but it can be a positive side effect.

atocci , to technology in NASA and Boeing say Starliner astronauts ‘are not stranded,’ but will be on the ISS for a few more weeks

The people in every one of these Starliner threads seemingly hoping for the worst case scenario to occur just so they can dunk on Boeing for it are disturbing

sigmaklimgrindset ,

Seriously, some of the comments and their phrasing actively gave me flashbacks to my days on stan twitter.

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

I wish Stan Twitter had never started his company, at all.

MrSpArkle ,

It’s a weird moral grey zone. Everyone has forgotten the hundreds of people Boeing murdered as a result of their desire to skirt modern safety regulations. I just flew my family across the country yesterday on one of these end-stage-capitalism products for lack of any other option.

Were I to be ash this morning, I would be forgotten too.

But if astronauts were killed, maybe the outrage would finally be enough for all the greased palms to be sheepishly shoved in pockets just long enough to get justice, ground all those affronts to safety, and jail enough executives to maybe make Boeing stop being a global safety risk and a national security concern.

atocci ,

Call me crazy but hoping for two innocent astronauts to die on the off-chance things improve isn’t something I would consider morally gray.

0x0 ,

But if astronauts were killed, maybe the outrage would finally be enough

Nope. The news would die off in less than a week, short attention spans and all that.

technocrit ,

The best case scenario is that boeing is put out of business and nobody else dies for some CEO’s paycheck.

weew ,

Lol. People want Boeing to fail, because they’re corrupt, lying, poorly engineered pieces of shit riding on bribed politicians. They’ve already deliberately caused the deaths of hundreds of people due to willful and deliberate negligence to save a buck.

Nobody’s wanting the astronauts to die. And they won’t, they’re safe on the space station, and there are multiple options to get them home safe even if they have to abandon the POS Starliner to do it.

atocci ,

I’m not talking about people who just want Boeing to fail, I’m talking about the ones who think the best path to changing things is if they publicly kill two astronauts. eg. See the “morally gray” comment below

BigMacHole , to technology in Pornhub to leave five more states over age-verification laws

All these states are Small Government Freedom states!

IllNess ,

Also the “Think about the children!” states but force birth on minors, don’t give healthcare or food to kids, and vote in pedophiles.

GrindingGears ,

Cons just care about the kid until they are born. Not one second longer than that.

pbjamm ,
@pbjamm@beehaw.org avatar

Unless they are marrying them

GrindingGears ,

They don’t marry them, they just diddle them underage on exotic island compounds.

Drewski , to piracy in The Motion Picture Association will work with Congress to start blocking piracy sites in the US

He [MPAA CEO Charles Rivkin] added that almost 60 countries use site-blocking as a tool against piracy, “including leading democracies and many of America’s closest allies.” The only reason why the US isn’t one of them, he continued, is the “lack of political will, paired with outdated understandings of what site-blocking actually is, how it functions, and who it affects.”

No, you’re the one who doesn’t understand. We don’t want censorship, and we have this thing called the 1st Amendment.

Bakkoda ,

MPAA is the organization that took 2600 to court over linking to DeCSS source code. All they understand is money and power and so far is worked really well. This is an organization that literally inserted itself into our society. Remove them, by force if necessary.

TassieTosser ,

Australia’s version is a dns block. It only stops people who don’t know how to google or change thier dns.

TheFeatureCreature , to technology in Apple reaches $25M settlement with the DOJ for discriminating against US residents during hiring | The DOJ said that Apple's hiring practices favored visa holders and left out US citizens and perma...
@TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world avatar

aka 0.03% of their reported profits for the 2023 fiscal year. This isn’t even a slap on the hand or a penny found under the couch. This is a grain of sand on the beaches of a planet on the other side of the galaxy.

As has been said many times: Laws are made for everyday people like you and me, not for megacorps like Apple.

0x0 ,

Would be fun to fine companies by percentage with increasing values for repeat offenses.

Kyle_The_G ,

While we’re at it it would be cool to peg CEO pay to the lowest position available so that if the CEO wants a raise everyone else gets a proportionate increase.

keckbug ,

Cool, but tricky. It’d have the effect of simply contracting out loads of positions to sketchy labor companies

SinningStromgald ,

Which is why you include contracted, temporary, part-time and full-time workers. And/Or set limits on the number of contracted workers compared to full/part/temp time workers for the same position. Close the loop holes.

demonsword ,
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Close the loop holes

big business owns Congress, they’d just bribe lobby for new loopholes to exploit

RobotToaster ,

And peg politicians’ pay to minimum wage.

_dev_null ,
@_dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz avatar

peg CEO pay (…) CEO wants a raise

This sounds like you’re talking about salary. This strategy would need to be tied to executive compensation.

Check out the wiki on how convoluted and fucked up executive compensation can get.

sfcl33t ,

That’s how punitive damages are supposed to work, according to John Grisham

ilega_dh ,

To put this into perspective, if you make $100k/y: this is $30

In other words: a joke

Edit: and full disclosure: I’m a full-blown Apple fan

LukeMedia ,

For more perspective, you’d need to make $100k/y net income tax. As a random example, in North Carolina with state and federal taxes, not accounting for any deductions, that’d be about $142k/y.

Adding this because with personal salaries people typically see and think of the gross number.

bstix , to technology in X is suing California over social media content moderation law

The only reason they use the word “constitutional” is because they want the conservative supreme court to make a ruling to allow hate speech.

Meanwhile, conservatives also want to ban books about love.

This really has nothing to do with technology though. Quite the contrary. Twitter isn’t technology. It’s a tool for making dark age politics.

Viking_Hippie ,

Also because they’re fond of pretending that if something they’re doing isn’t expressly forbidden in the constitution, that means it’s VIRTUOUS and must be protected at all costs!

On the other hand, anything that their opponents do that isn’t expressly MANDATED by the constitution is villainy most foul and must be outlawed and penalised with at least a decade of enslavement that is highly lucrative to the owner donors imprisonment

cmnybo , to technology in Apple reportedly has plans for a thinner iPhone, MacBook Pro and Apple Watch

Why? Phones have been thin enough for a long time that you have to put them in a case just to get a good grip.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

I want an iPhone with a larger battery so it doesn’t have the stupid camera bulge.

Longer life and doesn’t rock when I text on a surface.

jenny_ball ,
@jenny_ball@lemmy.world avatar

seriously

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Oh I’m serious.

sugartits ,

When Satan’s Maggoty Cum Fart says they are serious, then you better believe that Satan’s Maggoty Cum Fart is being serious and take it seriously!

tfowinder ,
@tfowinder@lemmy.ml avatar

And I can repair when it breaks.

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

doesn’t rock when I text on a surface.

I mean, I agree with you on the battery life being desirable, but purely in terms of addressing the rocking, does putting it in a rigid case resolve that?

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

It makes the phone bigger without extra battery life so what’s the point?

I’ve actually never ran a case on my phones just a screen protector.

bdonvr ,

Actually, they’ve been getting thicker every year since the 6, believe it or not.

slaacaa ,

Exactly. I’m still on my 11pro for this reason, already had to replace the battery. I got the 15 as a work phone, it feels very large in comparison, I’m not a fan.

DolphinMath ,

I’d be happier if they push for lighter devices personally. Glass feels nice, but their Pro models can be obnoxiously heavy.

Evotech ,

Because we need to keep innovating?

LastoftheDinosaurs , to news in Uber, Grubhub and DoorDash must pay NYC delivery workers an $18 minimum wage
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  • sharkfinsoup ,

    If you are too lazy to pickup your own food and need someone to deliver it to you, then yeah it is your job to pay those people. You expect someone to want to bring you food for free?

    Carobu ,

    No, I think he expects their employer to pay them through the fees they collect. If the tip is mandatory, it’s not a tip, it’s a fee and it should be included in the up front costs with payroll taxes etc deducted.

    thepianistfroggollum ,

    It’s a bribe, not a fee.

    OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe ,

    Instead of a bribe, I call it a Bid. I’ll give a tip for good service, somebody waiting around an extra 10 minutes at the restaurant because they’re giving us BOTH the runaround? Absolutely, have an extra bit of cash, you didn’t have to do that for me and I want to compensate that extra effort so they’re more likely to go that extra mile in the future without fear of it hurting potential profits they would have made by dropping me and picking up another order.

    NotAPenguin ,

    There's already a delivery fee

    Paddzr ,

    I was going to ask… there are delivery fees and likely food is more expensive too if you buy through them?

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Invalids and disabled people use these services too. The problem isn’t they expect it for free, the problem is the people who do the work are not being paid a living wage to do it.

    BraveSirZaphod , (edited )
    @BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

    There is a deeper problem that doesn't get discussed enough: namely, that customer may not actually value delivery enough to pay workers a livable wage. Delivery companies are bleeding money left and right, and none of them are meaningfully profitable. They were riding the money tap from low interest rates for a while, but now that that's dried up and people are starting to hit their limit of how much they'll pay in fees for delivery, we're gonna hit a breaking point, especially as governments start to tighten the rules like this.

    Either customers will actually pay enough for this to be a financially viable business, or they won't. Pretty much every sign has pointed in the negative so far, and the companies are eventually going to run out of money to throw at this. From a teeny bit of research, it seems like the average delivery worker gets somewhere around 3-4 trips per hour. To hit $20 a hour, which isn't exactly a high wage, each person ordering delivery is going to have to accept adding at least five more bucks or so on top of the cost of their food, and on top of a fee to actually keep the platform itself running, and those engineers aren't exactly cheap, and even more fees to start paying down the company's debt (Uber has about 9 billion dollars of debt right now), and even more fees to pay shareholders.

    There's simply quite of lot of cost built into a single delivery trip, and I don't think the average consumer is really willing to pay it just to save a bit of time and effort getting food. But hey, we'll see.

    deur ,

    Have you ever heard of pizza delivery? Been around for much longer and sooo much cheaper.

    BraveSirZaphod ,
    @BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

    Pizza delivery is generally handled by each individual restaurant with some dedicated employees, so it's a pretty different model than something like Uber Eats. Pizza is also fast, cheap, and simple, so that helps to drive down costs. It's also generally a complete meal for at least two people, if not a whole group, and so the delivery cost gets split across more people.

    I get the comparison, but I don't think they're really as analogous as they seem. One is a pizza place hiring a delivery person or two to drive some pizza around; the other is a large tech company settled with debt and inventor obligations paying very expensive engineers to manage incredibly complicated logistics networks and deal with tens of thousands of distinct parties.

    This is really kinda my point. Why is pizza delivery so much cheaper? Because it doesn't have to deal with all these extra costs that a massive delivery network like Uber inherently has to manage. I imagine we'll eventually hit some kind of equilibrium where a lot of restaurants that can manage it have their own in-house delivery people, while the large networks will have to dramatically downsize or die.

    Buddahriffic ,

    It’s similar in some ways but overall a very different business model which doesn’t work out nearly as efficiently.

    When you’re delivering pizza, you generally just work out of one location. You have a relationship with the business you’re working at which includes an area set aside for deliveries where drivers can both plan the orders into batches of ones that work well together, considering when they’ll come out of the oven, their destinations, and what the other drivers are doing. When it’s busy, drivers can go in, look over all the current orders (ready or not), and take deliveries to their cars without needing to interact with employees at all. In some locations, they might also be considered kitchen staff and can also do things like pick orders or cook items that aren’t yet ready, allowing them to both provide value to the business (further justifying a wage) and get deliveries out the door sooner.

    A lot of that isn’t the case for delivery services. The food pickup can be anywhere, so you can’t just go back to the restaurant and wait, and the pickups need to be optimized just like the dropoffs (if the service even allows you to batch deliveries together). You don’t have that relationship with the business; you’re basically just another customer, so no going to the back to see what’s up or helping the employees when they are swamped.

    I’ve done pizza delivery in the past. I didn’t mind it. I don’t think I would like delivering for one of these apps, it sounds like a giant pain in the ass.

    r_se_random ,

    If I take everything you say as true at face value. Then the business was a shitty idea. The owners of the company who have gambled away the VC money should be the ones on hook for it, not the customers.

    It is the employer’s responsibility to ensure their workers get paid. Period.

    BraveSirZaphod ,
    @BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

    That's precisely my point. It's ultimately a shitty business idea, and will probably eventually fail.

    I don't really understand what you mean by being on the hook for it. Investors will ultimately lose quite a lot of money, workers will lose their jobs, and customers will endure the horror of walking or driving a bit to grab food.

    can ,

    Go back and reread what they said but slower this time.

    thepianistfroggollum ,

    Bold of you to assume they can read.

    Hiccup ,

    A tip is merely subsidizing a company’s inability to pay its employees appropriately. I really could care less seeing Stanley Tang (door dash founder/ owner) gamble (and lose) hundreds of thousands of dollars on hustler casino live playing poker while simultaneously claiming his company can’t pay a living wage.

    spacecowboy ,

    You aren’t a smart person, hey?

    bobman ,

    Pretty sure they get paid regardless of if they’re tipped.

    Buddahriffic ,

    Yeah but if they decide it’s not worth their while without the tip…

    bobman ,

    Then your food just sits there? Nobody takes it?

    The app just tells you “sorry, nobody is taking your order, try again maybe?”

    ArtificialLink ,

    Don’t worry the drivers will just refuse to pick up your order. Basically the way it works given the companies show the tip to drivers. Especially door dash. Which create an extremely toxic problem where drivers can decide what they think is worth their time or pick something up and fuck with someone’s food cuz they didn’t get “tipped”

    muntedcrocodile ,
    @muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world avatar

    Capitalism at its finest

    Buddahriffic ,

    In this specific case, I’d unironically agree, though it’s more the free market than something that would be specific to capitalism. Users put out offers of “pick up this food for me and I will pay you x”, and drivers have the option of taking or leaving any of the offers. If none of them think your order is worth their time, I don’t think forcing any of them to do it anyways is the right thing to do.

    Business should be voluntary on both sides IMO.

    ArtificialLink ,

    Lmao L take. I seriously have to bid on a delivery service? What if I have a cash tip? Which is better cause it don’t technically need to be taxed for them. I am happy to render a tip after service is delivered. But the thought of bidding for something is ridiculous. And it already creates an extremely toxic environment and makes it even more toxic.

    eusousuperior ,

    Well you can always vote with your wallet and not use those services, choose restaurants with their own delivery services

    muntedcrocodile ,
    @muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world avatar

    In an ideal world perhaps one managed by a federated system sure. But the companies they work for take part of their profit should they not be obligated to then treat these people as employees?

    ilikekeyboards ,

    That’s an auction. I need to keep bidding to get my order

    thepianistfroggollum ,

    It’s not a tip, it’s a bribe. A tip is given after service has been rendered.

    Psythik ,

    Postmates would only ask for a tip after the delivery was completed. But now they don’t exist anymore so…

    Sharkwellington ,

    Okay, Mr. Pink.

    cassetti , to technology in Netflix axes its $10 ‘Basic’ plan in the US and UK

    I was a Netflix DVD subscriber before they released a Wii streaming disc then started streaming Netflix back when it was glorious with all your favorite shows. Eventually I downgraded to the cheap $8 plan for a single user at 1080p resolution which was fine - my old television is still 1080p native resolution.

    Then they quietly raised the price.... and dropped the resolution to 720p without telling me. Finally I had enough - after more than a decade I finally cancelled my Netflix account last year and haven't looked back.

    I don't miss their "netflix originals" which only last for one or two seasons before getting canned because netflix needs more viewership to justify the investments.

    Truth be told, I don't watch must television (or even youtube) in general - I have better things to do with my time than vegetating on a couch watching a tv screen.

    SkaveRat , to technology in Congress asks Mark Zuckerberg to explain why drug dealers are advertising on Facebook and Instagram

    “well, because they want to sell their products. isn’t that obvious?”

    harsh3466 ,

    Came here to reply this. h/t

    Rai ,

    no

    jeffw OP ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    “If you guys stopped locking up my ketamine dealers, I wouldn’t have to turn to FB to buy drugs” - Zuck probably

    Too soon?

    bobs_monkey ,

    Be this tru, for a so called “hacker,” dude sucks at the internet

    breadsmasher , to technology in Researchers discover potentially catastrophic exploit present in AMD chips for decades
    @breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

    This post was sponsored by INTEL™️

    /jk

    Rooki ,
    @Rooki@lemmy.world avatar
    db2 ,

    How long were you sitting on that one waiting for the perfect moment?

    SkaveRat , (edited )

    Which is by pure chance also what the person said who got the exploit list from Intel

    Railcar8095 ,

    *100 employees were fired too allocate budget for this sponsorship

    altima_neo ,
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    Wouldnt be surprised if the researchers were Intel researchers.

    Scio , to technology in Jack Dorsey claims Bluesky is 'repeating all the mistakes' he made at Twitter

    🤡

    jeffw OP ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    Well that’s a TL;dr if I ever saw one

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