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Sleazy_Albanese , to worldnews in Israel Furious that Elderly Captive Spoke of Humane Treatment by Hamas
Alaskaball , to worldnews in Israel Furious that Elderly Captive Spoke of Humane Treatment by Hamas
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Honestly she’d be better off fleeing back into PLO or Hamas protection because she’s gonna be on some zion-fascist’s hitlist for speaking the truth on international television

Utter_Karate , to worldnews in Israel Furious that Elderly Captive Spoke of Humane Treatment by Hamas
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It’s surreal that she managed to get on national television and say this. Aren’t there whole departments of the government/military dedicated to making sure that that doesn’t happen?

ShimmeringKoi ,
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I guess they’re napping on the job like those forward IDF sentries a couple weeks ago

honeynut , (edited ) to worldnews in Israel Furious that Elderly Captive Spoke of Humane Treatment by Hamas

www youtube.com/shorts/QPnJveJLq_4

Interview snippet for the incredulous deboonkers

library_napper , to worldnews in Israel Furious that Elderly Captive Spoke of Humane Treatment by Hamas
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The full truth about what happened on or after 7 October could be established by an independent investigation, something Israel is unlikely to ever permit.

Yeah maybe they shouldn’t have kicked out Human Rights Watch. Then we might actually know what happened.

library_napper , to worldnews in Israel Furious that Elderly Captive Spoke of Humane Treatment by Hamas
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they allowed Yocheved Lifshitz to make a statement on a live broadcast

Where’s a link to this video with a transcription?

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  • library_napper ,
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    Thanks, but how about the whole thing unedited?

    What you posted skipped over the bits where she talked abiut being beaten (according tk the article). Would like to see the footage without slanted editing.

    library_napper , to worldnews in Israel Furious that Elderly Captive Spoke of Humane Treatment by Hamas
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    Do we have a link to the source? What she said in her own words?

    JCPhoenix ,
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    I saw this article from WaPo the other day quoting her. It’s gift link, so should work for all.

    gravitas_deficiency , to worldnews in Israel Furious that Elderly Captive Spoke of Humane Treatment by Hamas

    Lol so uh, based on the domain name alone, I’m not sure I’d take the word of that source at face value. That practically shouts “we’re heavily biased”.

    This isn’t to say the story should be categorically disregarded.

    This is to say that it behooves ALL of us to try to find and post stories that are as unbiased as possible - or, if that’s not possible, pointing out and acknowledging where bias likely exists in the source.

    LemmyPlay , to worldnews in Israel Furious that Elderly Captive Spoke of Humane Treatment by Hamas

    If you were a political group taking hostages and facing severe backlash, it would be to your advantage to treat the ones you plan to release very well for PR credit. Especially after a violent massacre of innocent civilians when you badly need positive perception. Additionally, releasing older women seems like an easy choice, since society will see you as having a conscience since they are one group of weaker members.

    But this isn’t such a significant moment. The sobering reality is the elderly have less utility as hostages, so it’s no loss from the Hamas side. We also know that during her abduction the treatment wasn’t all positive. And without information on the status and treatment of the other 200, which based on human history I can assume doesn’t perfectly follow the story here, this release means very little from the larger view.

    HuddaBudda , to worldnews in Israel Furious that Elderly Captive Spoke of Humane Treatment by Hamas
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    They're mad because she Criticized the Israel government spending 2 billion for no extra protection.

    But the facts speak for themselves. She was beaten when she first arrived. Received medical care afterwards. Had to be released at the Egypt boarder, because Israel wasn't negotiating with them.

    But you don't have to take my word for it, take Israel's.

    Israel won’t negotiate with Hamas on hostages now, will remove it from power

    October 14, 2023. Avshalom Sassoni/Flash 90

    National Security Council head Tzachi Hanegbi said on Saturday that there are no active negotiation efforts underway by Israel to repatriate the Israelis and some other foreign nationals kidnapped by Hamas last Saturday, saying “there is no way right now to have a negotiation” with the terror organization.

    I would say they are in the middle of a war, but these are some rookie mistakes for 5 billion a year.

    agitatedpotato ,

    I like how they say there’s no way to negotiate after several hostages have already been freed. Maybe Israel just sucks at everything but killing people who dont even have tanks.

    BraveSirZaphod , to worldnews in Israel Furious that Elderly Captive Spoke of Humane Treatment by Hamas
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    Respectfully, I don't know if, er, electronicintifada.net is exactly a good source for unbiased news on this topic. I wonder what the article says...

    Israeli propaganda officials are reportedly upset...

    It truly is a work of science to take "some government propaganda officials are reportedly upset" and somehow turn that into "The entire state of Israel is FURIOUS...".

    Almost as if the headline was engineered to reinforce pre-existing biases or something.

    Hyperreality ,

    I honestly don't know why people post obvious propaganda like this. It's like they don't even care about convincing anyone and are trying to undermine their own argument. It's not as if you can't find more than enough very critical coverage of Israel in reputable sources. Maybe they're so far down the rabbit hole, they genuinely think obvious propaganda outlets are more reliable than something like reuters.

    queermunist ,
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    If the state’s propaganda mouthpieces are upset it isn’t unreasonable to say the state, itself, is upset.

    library_napper ,
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    They arrived at the kibbutz and kidnapped us, taking us to surrounding fields,” Lifshitz recalled. “The young men beat me and hurt me and took my watch and jewelry. They were riding motorbikes and took us to the entrance of a tunnel.”

    Seems like if it were propaganda they would have omitted that. Seems legit.

    BraveSirZaphod ,
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    It's difficult to square that with posting a headline that only mentions "humane treatment".

    I'm sure you're smart enough to know that media bias can be expressed in a wide variety of ways. Hell, a lot of Fox News' reporting is itself perfectly fine, but then it'll be editorialized into painting an extremely sensational picture.

    zerfuffle ,

    Israel’s clamped down on more legitimate sources and is even trying to kick of Al Jazeera (which has consistently led in terms of accuracy in journalism).

    American news isn’t a good source for unbiased news either, but people still post it.

    Kultronx ,
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    Been following them for years. They are far more legitimate than CNN, Fox, BBC, CBC

    queermunist , to worldnews in US-Supplied Israeli Apache Helicopter Kills Children in West Bank
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    I will not vote for genocide.

    I will not vote for WW3.

    tygerprints , to worldnews in US-Supplied Israeli Apache Helicopter Kills Children in West Bank

    The U.S. is as horrifically culpable as the Israelis and the Palestinians for causing this perverse, disgusting war that is killing kids right, left, and sideways. War is the product of mental illness; give men weapons, they'll always fabricate unjustifiable reasons to turn them on innocent lives and destroy the world. There is NO POSSIBLE justification for ANY of this at all. Anyone who has helped this war continue will forever burn in the hottest flames of hell.

    knfrmity ,

    The oppressed and colonized are not the guilty party. Do not fucking both sides this.

    Franzia , (edited ) to worldnews in Israel's spin about hospital massacre quickly comes apart

    This source might not be the best but I’m following these details and I think a more reputable source will cast doubt on the legitimacy of the situation Israel and this hospital has painted. There seems, to me, a good chance this hospital bombing was faked / or the details were heavily skewed as a propaganda piece.

    Reuters: What we Know about this Hospital Strike

    • Reuters said IDF fired a strike at a Palestinian hospital causing 500 deaths.
    • Comms come out where a “Hamas agent” spills the beans about details saying Hamas did it, and other Hamas agents are confused.
    • Israel has posted and asserted misinformation about this situation. They may just be lying reflexively.
    • Videos of this hospital parking lot seem to show a lot less damage than the reported ammunition (JDAM) And the size of the explosion. We see a few cars worth of damage. Some cars seem fine. There was fire in the hospital though too?
    • Nonetheless this bomb went off in Northern Gaza, where Palestinians have been ordered to evacuate. Which is logistically impossible and there’s nowhere for them to go.
    Tavarin , to worldnews in Israel's spin about hospital massacre quickly comes apart
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    The electronic intifada, yeah that’s not going to be biased propaganda at all /s

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