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GiddyGap , to technology in Why US tech giants are threatening to quit the UK

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  • DzikiMarian ,

    If by “responsibly” you mean strip customers of privacy under old story of protecting children then sure.

    Why are you manipulating people?

    5BC2E7 ,

    Thanks for calling out another propagandist.

    Rom , to worldnews in Georgia doctor decapitated baby using 'excessive force' in delivery
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    DarkThoughts , (edited )

    Enough kbin for today.

    Edit: I should've stopped at the headline.

    autotldr Bot , to worldnews in World Bank halts new Uganda loans over anti-LGBTQ+ law

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The World Bank says it is halting new loans to Uganda because a new anti-gay law contradicts its core values.

    Homosexual acts were already illegal in Uganda, but anyone now convicted faces life imprisonment under the new law which was enacted in May.

    The World Bank said it was committed to helping all Ugandans without exception to “escape poverty, access vital services, and improve their lives”.

    In a tweet, Ambassador Adonia Ayebare said it was time to rethink the World Bank’s work methods and the board’s decisions.

    As a result, the World Bank said “no new public financing to Uganda will be presented to our Board of Executive Directors” pending a review of the efficacy of new measures put up in the context of the new legislation.

    In response to the World Bank’s decision, Uganda’s state minister for foreign affairs Okello Oryem queried the consistency of the move compared to other countries.


    I’m a bot and I’m open source!

    AshMan85 , to worldnews in Tou Thao: Ex-officer in George Floyd case gets 57 months for role in killing

    he got off easy. hopefully justice will served when he is in the slammer

    tider06 ,

    He has the biggest gang in the world to protect him, and they run the joint.

    That_Mad_Scientist , to worldnews in Ukraine war: Russia hits blood transfusion centre, says Zelensky

    There really are no limits to putin’s cruelty, huh

    Motavader , to technology in New AI systems collide with copyright law

    I’m absolutely on the side of the artists here, but I do wonder if the AI company’s defense will be that the software is no different than another artists drawing inspiration from earlier works. Every art student studies the masters and has assignments to produce works in their style, and current artists have absolutely been influenced by contemporaries. No one evolves their creative style in a vacuum: that’s impossible, short of living on a deserted island.

    But this is a fundamentally different problem since the AI can produce millions of tailored works quickly, replacing vast numbers of creatives, threatening their livelihood. That’s not as much of a concern with one-off artists creating things similar to something they saw earlier (although the individual concept may be the same).

    This is going to be a really interesting legal case.

    LupertEverett ,
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    What AI does lands more on “tracing” side than “referencing” side though

    shuzuko ,

    Yes, at best the AI works would still be infringing derivative works. If a human made that art and tried to make money off it, courts would almost assuredly say it lacked “sufficient tranformative creative effort” to allow it to be copyrighted itself or protect it from being considered an infringement. There’s a big difference beween “inspired by” and “trying to copy”.

    Further, if all these works were being used for non-commercial purposes, like, just to print and hang up in their homes or something, it would still suck for artists (because they would lose the individual end-sale market) but it wouldn’t be nearly as harmful. The big problem is that people and corporations are currently trying to use AI art to sidestep paying creatives for their work and then using that AI generation for commercial purposes or to loophole the art out of things like Patreon. It’s a deliberate attempt to deprive hardworking creatives of the money they are due for their work.

    LoafyLemon ,

    That's not true at all. AI uses latent noise as a medium to draw images, there's nothing left of the original image in its dataset.

    DekkerNSFW ,

    There's usually nothing left of the original image. But sometimes a specific image pops up in the dataset more often and gets overtrained, which is why you can get a pretty close copy of the Starry Night from vanilla SD. But yeah, it's not tracing.

    FaceDeer ,
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    Those instances are considered a flaw and trainers work hard to prevent them. When they do occur you have to know they're in there in order to dredge them back out.

    Peanutbjelly , (edited )

    Legitimately, it’s like these people have no understanding of the actual technology.

    The other response you’ve received talked about a very small subset of overtrained images, which makes sense on why they can be replicated. anyone who trained on creating a specific image a million times would be able to replicate that image easily. Even then it takes a lot of luck and effort to accurately replicate the exact image to any degree.

    If you are not specifically trying to recreate an overly popular image, then there is practically no element left from any particular image that you can consider represented to any thieving extent.

    Considering that it is effectively acting on a pareidolia interpretation of static represented by countless possible prompt and setting combinations, the copyright issue should only really be relevant when people use the tool specifically trying to recreate a particular work. Literally any other paint program would be more effective for that style of theft.

    As an artist, in regards to the pareidolia aspect, I do virtually the same thing when illustrating an image. Disney/Warner can already afford as many peasants to learn or recreate whatever styles they want. I can’t afford a team of lackeys. I can however use an open source diffusion model to create entirely unique and personally tailored and designed illustrations that suit my artistic objective.

    Existing concept of copywrite does not work for this scenario, and if people should argue anything, it should be that wealthy businesses specifically have much more restriction and responsibility in use of tools and in excessive control of the artistic market.

    I’m personally excited for a future where peasant artists can also create complex beautiful works using these tools.

    Think about ending up with holodeck level of personal creative freedom, and being able to create things in that experience the you can share with others.

    The current system already robs and suppresses actual art.

    Just like every other aggressive reaction to AI, the focus is misdirected and not actually helpful for anyone in any way.

    Chee_Koala ,

    My experience with image AI gave me almost the exact opposite feeling, more like it somehow pinpoints important aspects of a certain style or artist and then it can just jam with that limitlessly (Dall-e AI in this case) . How did you find it closer to tracing? Did you play around with any of the image AIs?

    SlopppyEngineer ,

    Looking at it a bit simplified, ask the AI to produce a number of pictures and videos in the style of Disney and you and the AI builder will get slammed by a lawsuit. Copyright still matters if you’re big enough.

    I’m sure they can also develop an AI to analyze the similarities between works and pay a small amount of royalties to the author(s) based on the ratio of that similarly above a certain cutoff but before that happens someone big enough needs to sue first.

    FaceDeer ,
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    Style cannot be copyrighted.

    thebestaquaman ,

    I would argue that it is not the work produced by the AI, but the trained model itself, which infringes on copyright.

    The model cannot be regarded as an artist, but as a product, commercial or otherwise, that has been created by stealing copyrighted work.

    Sterile_Technique , to worldnews in Afghanistan: Taliban burn ‘immoral’ musical instruments
    @Sterile_Technique@kbin.social avatar

    But like... why? Does their religion actually have some angst with music, or is this another one of those "god told me so in a dream!" kinda bullshit?

    PokeCaptain ,
    Sterile_Technique ,
    @Sterile_Technique@kbin.social avatar

    ...well fuck, I didn't actually expect the former. This world would be so much better without that religious nonsense. -_-

    argv_minus_one , to worldnews in China using families as 'hostages' to quash dissent abroad

    Such cowardly actions befit a gang of criminals, not the righteous leadership of a proud nation. The Chinese people deserve far better.

    yeather ,

    “He’s a little confused but he’s got the spirit”

    interolivary , to worldnews in Judge dismisses Donald Trump's 'Big Lie' lawsuit against CNN
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    Oh no, the lie is coming from inside the house

    iegod , to world in Grandma refused bus ride suffered horror injuries

    This is tragic. I feel so sad for her and her family.

    God_Is_Love , to worldnews in Taliban beauty salon ban: Three Afghan women mourn the end of a valued service

    I’ve heard that everything the Taliban is doing regarding women is to stop them from being able to communicate with each other and therefore being able to meaningfully organize against their rule

    HobbitFoot , to worldnews in Amsterdam bans cruise ships to limit visitors and curb pollution

    Amsterdam is really trying to transition away from being a tourism destination.

    Showroom7561 ,

    They don’t care, because they already have one of the most livable cities on the planet. Locals over tourists.

    mjhagen ,

    Would be great if we succeed, tourism is only a relatively small part of the economy here.

    fist_of_fartitude , to worldnews in Outrage after women paraded naked in Indian state
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    Prime Minister Narendra Modi also said the incident had “shamed India” and that “no guilty will be spared”.

    And you can believe him because of the great job he did with the Gujarat riots in 2002.

    Son_of_dad ,

    I don’t see how this shames India anymore than it is already. This type of story is way too common out of India, and I won’t accept the population size as the reason. Sadly it’s one of the countries I refuse to visit and know that the culture won’t change in my lifetime

    fist_of_fartitude ,
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    Modi, imo, has no problem with angry religiously motivated mobs, so long as it’s the Hindutva people committing the violence. He’s just making the noises the expected noises for the sake of propriety - don’t expect anything to change markedly.

    plistig , to worldnews in Police search for suspected lion roaming Berlin area

    This is her: pixelfed.de/p/e.hallermann/587577842132651278. Kitty just ate a boar, so maybe she is sleepy now and you can pet her. Ü

    DarkThoughts ,

    Looks kinda small for a lion, more like a mountain lion. Maybe it is still young or malnourished, but proper lions are usually some big mofos.

    Sirence ,

    You really think the zoo doesn’t know which kind of animal they let escape?

    Lhianna ,

    Well, the animal didn’t escape from a zoo or circus. They don’t know where it’s from yet. It’s legal to keep a lion as a pet in Brandenburg.

    Sirence ,

    Wow you are right. I had no idea you were allowed to keep such pets legally, that is crazy.

    DarkThoughts ,

    "The zoo?" What zoo are you referring to, because last I heard no zoo is missing a lion.

    Sirence ,

    Ye this morning people were saying the Berlin zoo had lost an animal again but now the zoo has released a statement that it’s not theirs.

    Balance ,

    I’d say the same if I had lost my lion

    Haus , to worldnews in Police search for suspected lion roaming Berlin area
    @Haus@kbin.social avatar

    Entschuldigung, mein Kerle, hast du eine Gazelle?

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