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Zuzak , to worldnews in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia

Sometimes in life, you just gotta go wherever your heart takes you, no matter how many people try to tell you it’s a bad idea, and even if it doesn’t make sense - especially when it doesn’t make sense!

This was not one of those times.

Sterile_Technique , to world in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia
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Woo!

Hopefully he’s actually dead and this isn’t some stupid stunt.

BerryB1ue , to world in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia

The guy wasn’t stupid. He knew going against Putin meant death if he failed. At some point during his attempted coup, he realised it wasn’t going to work and was faced with a choice: die now, or “back down” to scheme his way out of an almost certain death later. Turns out he couldn’t. ¯⁠\⁠⁠༼⁠ ⁠•́⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ⁠•̀⁠ ⁠༽⁠⁠/⁠¯ Oh well, nothing of value was lost.

OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe ,

I have nothing to add to your comment other than the fact that your text person clearly has a large nose and I think that’s a stylistic choice and I appreciate that as someone who also has a large nose.

Oh, and fuck Putin.

Chruesimuesi ,

I also don’t have anything to add other than that I really appreciate comments who pay respects to details of other comments. I don’t know, just makes me happy, so thank you for that!

Oh, and fuck this fucking asshole named Putin, may he die a painful and slow death.

grumpyrico ,

consider yourself rewarded for that comment … thx for the smile

Asymptote ,

I’m not sure he couldn’t have done it if he’d kept driving into Moscow. The defenses of the city were just in shambles. Almost as bad as Denmark in 1940.

However, having tucked tail he should have known better than to come back.

Now there are rumors that Wagner would stage a second coup attempt if the deaths were confirmed (which they are now).

That would be a complete suicide mission now. 2500%.

Still, interesting times.

Rose ,

Yeah, there’s pretty much no chance with the leaders dead, their camp far from Moscow, no surprise factor, and the potential allies like Surovikin pushed from power. It seems like Putin has completely outplayed them.

Icaria ,

At some point during his attempted coup, he realised it wasn’t going to work

When was that, exactly? Putin fled, reserve forces were standing by and not fighting Wagner, and he was a day out from an undefended Moscow. Worst case scenario was a protracted civil war, but he still would’ve lived longer than this.

Honestly, none of this makes sense. The fact that he aborted in the first place makes the idea that he was conspiring with Putin the whole time to flush out disloyal elements within the Russian armed forces seem credible… but then why kill him after? I’m not ruling out the possibility that either this was a genuine accident, or it was another false flag and he and his second in command just faked their own deaths.

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX ,
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Couldn’t he go hide in like Central America or something? Though I suppose Russian intelligence would still find him and get to him.

Maybe he could hide on the South Pole of the moon.

skillissuer ,
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reportedly he was going back from some african country that day. he also could stay in belarus, but he chose to go back to moscow

bobman ,

Who’s to say he didn’t?

Pretty sure Russians are the only ones investigating, and we all know how much they can be trusted.

kandoh , to world in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia

I am going to wait a few weeks before I take this as confirmed

parsiuk ,

Exactly. He was on the list of passengers but no one found the body. It would be very convenient for him if everyone would presume he is dead…

h3doublehockeysticks , to worldnews in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia

Never get on board a helicopter, and never go on board a plane if you just pissed off a guy famous for offing his political enemies. Come on guy, that’s politics 101.

usernamesaredifficul ,

come to think of it don’t try and fail to kill putin no fucking way that works out

Thordros ,
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Seriously, have none of these guys listened to Rachel Jake’s podcast?

Sasuke ,
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M68040 ,
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mihor , to worldnews in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia
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RIP Prigochad! 😰🥀

sv1sjp , to world in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia
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Who would have thought…

Rapidcreek , to world in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia

Kind of interesting to note how the United States deals with an attempted coup versus Russia.

teamevil ,

Perhaps we should take notes

makyo ,

I mean, everyone deserves due process, but the constitution does seem to provide for executing traitors.

bobman ,

Everyone does not deserve due process.

Every cent spent persecuting a guy like prigozhin could be better spent improving society in a multitude of ways.

Badass_panda ,

Can we find a medium place?

s_s ,

I’d settle for a good ole-fashion court appointed hanging.

nuxetcrux , (edited ) to news in Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin feared dead after Russia plane crash

No body yet?

Edit: a finger has been identified as his

ohlaph ,

The window was too high.

arc , to worldnews in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia

I’m fully expecting Russian media to explain how those evil Ukranians sneaked a missile battery or a fighter jet into Moscow airspace and shot down a plane that just happened to contained Putin’s mortal enemies.

GarbageShoot ,

I think it’s usually Ukrainian media making those spurious claims, like about that Russian prison that got hit or, idk, I think there was a pipeline or something that was blown up they instantly blamed on Russia

Blake ,

I think that was western media, when that one Russian pipeline blew up and they were all saying it was Russia who blew it up, like lmao why would they blow up their own infrastructure that was actively generating them revenue? It was very clearly blown up by either Ukraine or NATO to force the EU to use less Russian gas or whatever.

GarbageShoot ,

Sorry, I was being facetious there. Yes, it was the Nord Stream pipeline that Russia used to sell gas to Europe, which was 4 lines, of which 3 were destroyed. My joke was that the pipeline was all over the news (along with those accusations) for a good while, unlike the prison bombing which was basically a one-cycle story.

extant ,

I was expecting them to say the plane fell out of a window.

Stanwich , to world in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia

Hey Putin! I heard Trump talking shit about you.

Buddahriffic ,

The whole Western political apperatus has been saying Putin doesn’t have the guts to release any of the compromat he holds on them and that he needs them more than they need him.

BlueMagaChud , to worldnews in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia
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lmao, you know he had to do it to him

Mdotaut801 , to world in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia

Yes. Complete and total accident. Yes. Of course. Tragic.

freecandy ,

Russia shot it down intentionally and announced it. Its in like the first sentence or two of the article.

uiiiq ,

No it isn’t, read again. That’s a claim by “Wagner-linked Telegram channel”. It can hardly be trusted. No official statement from Putin, investigation is ongoing.

Hyperi0n ,

There has been video of Russian AA shooting the plane down though.

uiiiq ,

Would you mind sharing the video? I didn’t see any. Afaik the most probable cause is a bomb on the deck.

Hyperi0n ,

They are on Twitter and I don’t know how to link them.

But the story is still very early with most saying he isn’t even dead.

AnUnusualRelic ,
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You can’t really expect to just throw several tons of steel and assorted stuff in the air and not have it fall back down. That’s why lighter than air always wins.

suction , to world in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia

Imagine living in Russia and pretending it’s fine to just go about your day instead of marching on the Kreml with millions of others. Russians will have a very hard time in the world in the next couple of decades, similar to Germans after WW2.

ademir ,
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I agree. Just like the Americans.

Badass_panda ,

Hate to say it but geopolitical, America’s got a brighter future than just about anyone else in the world right now. Something to say for lots of reserves of your own resources, your own continent containing only healthy, friendly trade allies and demography that isn’t in the midst of collapse.

Knowing America we’ll burn the place down to spite ourselves, but hey

jballs , to news in Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin 'on board' crashed Russian plane
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Dammit, I had plutonium tea on my bingo card.

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