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Not counting the time a lady popped her clutch pulling out of her driveway and hit me, since I guess that’s not “almost” an accident, probably the time I got caught out by a snowstorm, and on the way home I did a 360 on the freeway before regaining control. Thankfully there was no one else around, so it didn’t hurt anything other than my pride.

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If you think China is any better than the US, then you’ve just switched flavors.

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I mean, he can be the most important founding father of modern psychology and also have been wrong about everything he said. Let’s be real. Modern psychology is still very, very wrong about a lot of things. It’s a science in its infancy. Alchemists were wrong about everything, but their work made chemistry possible. Standing on the shoulders of giants doesn’t always mean those giants were right.

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This is fine, but why does everything need to be part of Systemd? Like, seriously, why can’t this just be an independent project? Why must everything be tied into this one knot of interdependent programs, and what’s going to happen to all of them when the people who are passionate about it and actually understand all the stupid ways they interrelate move on with their lives? Are we looking at the formation of the next Xorg? Will everybody being scrambling to undo all of this in another 20 years when we all realize it’s become an unmaintainable mess?

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I guess for me the difference is that the kernel is just way beyond what I can understand and has never had any viable alternatives, gnome I really don’t like, and everything else you listed is just collections of simple stuff that aren’t actually very interdependent. Systemd is a giant mess of weirdly interdependent things that used to be simple things. Sure, some of them weren’t great, but every major distro abandoning all of the alternatives feels like putting all of our eggs in one basket that’s simultaneously getting more important and more fragile the bigger it gets.

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Okay, but why go about it that way? That can’t be the only way of making a viable alternative to sudo. Why does everything need to be part of one project? If you want to reuse code why not spin it out into a library so each component can be installed with just the libraries it needs and not the depending on the whole gigantic thing? KDE works that way. It’s obviously possible for some things, at least.

One of my favorite things about Linux is simply fiddling around and finding the things I like and don’t and just using the ones I do. I can’t do that effectively with systemd though. Sure, it’s theoretically modular, and there are even a couple parts left that can work independently, but mostly it’s just one big block of half an operating system that all gets lumped together into one gigantic mess, and I can’t effectively just use the bits I like. It’s kind of all or nothing, and then maybe being allowed to double up on some of the things I’d like to use an alternative to… for now. It just kinda sucks the joy out of using my computer, but trying to avoid it completely is a massive pain in the butt.

There’s no big dramatic thing wrong with systemd. Using systemd and being happy with it is a good thing. I do not object to the existence of systemd. Systemd is fine. It just makes me like Linux less is all. I am enjoying my time with my computer less than I used to, and the universal dominance of systemd is probably the biggest reason for that.

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The ones where I’m from are often over an inch long, and can spray kinda like a skunk. They’re good for the local ecosystem and they’re mostly harmless, but you definitely don’t want them in your house. If you want to look them up I think the most common name is desert stink beetle.

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They’re not particularly trigger happy with their spray, so it mostly happens if you have a pet that finds them before you do. If you just take them outside in a jar or shoo them out the door with a broom you’re usually fine. A dog with stank face is no fun though.

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From what I understand most can’t spray, except in the west of North America, where the most common ones can. Even here it’s not all of them, and yeah, they are pretty chill. They don’t spray when they’re confused, just when they think something is about to eat them. Dogs are pretty famous for investigating things by shoving their faces into them though.

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Honestly, unless there’s some specific thing you’re looking for just use your distro’s default. If your distro doesn’t have a default I’d probably default to ext4. The way most people use their computers there’s really no noticeable advantage to any of the others, so there’s no reason not to stick with old reliable. If you like to fiddle with things just to see what they can do or have unusual requirements then btrfs or zfs could be worth looking into, but if you have to ask it probably doesn’t matter.

yozul ,
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Most people aren’t going around checking the commit history on every piece of software they use. The git repository being archived made the Linux news rounds, so now a bunch of people are newly aware. It’s not complicated.

yozul ,
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Neofetch is literally a bash script. There aren’t any libraries or APIs it depends on, and there is basically no chance of it not working in the future. Some people just like to try and sound smart.

The actual problem with Neofetch is that it’s not being updated with new ASCII art for new distros, and not adding new options to show things like a line for display server or other things some people might be interested in. It’s just getting out of date in regular boring ways.

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It totally does work though? Why would you say that?

yozul ,
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I have a Raspberry Pi. It works just fine.

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Uh huh. You think that some cloud computing processor just randomly can’t run a bash script? What, does the uname command not work on their processors or something? That would cause problems a lot worse than just Neofetch not working. I obviously don’t have one laying around to check, but I find that highly unlikely.

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I’m not growing it for you. I’m growing it because I like it for me. If you don’t like it, that’s your loss.

yozul ,
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Someone doesn’t know what “vendor” means.

yozul ,
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People are creating new operating systems, but the reason they don’t catch on is hardware and software compatibility. It was hard enough to make an actual performant operating system that could work on a wide variety of hardware back in the 90s. Trying to do it for every possible hardware combination available now is just crazy. It can also be an incredibly difficult task to get even open source software working properly on a new OS. Anything else is just completely out of the question.

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If I’m on Amazon it’s for something that I need and can’t get locally. There are no saving to donate. I’ll probably have to spend a lot more, drive multiple hours, or both if I don’t shop on Amazon. That’s the only reason I ever use it.

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I guess I’m lawful chaotic, because I like album shuffle.

yozul ,
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I agree that’s how it should be, but how things should be doesn’t pay the bills. Don’t take your anger out on the employees. Those are the only people you’re hurting.

yozul ,
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You not tipping is not at all the same thing as demanding better wages and you know it.

yozul ,
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Jesus fucking christ my dude. Not going to coffee shops is a valid option, but since you apparently haven’t noticed there are not yet living wages in most of the country. Either don’t use the services or tip until there are. Have some goddamn class solidarity and don’t force people to work for your benefit for poverty wages until things get better. Don’t pretend your greed is socialism.

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I guess wanting to play a game that’s replacing a game that runs well on Linux and is made by the company that has done the most to improve Linux gaming while using an OS that doesn’t spy on you and treat you like a toddler is a poor life choice according to you?

Maybe some of us have things we care about more than just maximum game compatibility. The horror.

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No. I don’t think I will. I had a dual boot machine with both Windows and Linux on it for years for that very purpose. It sucked. I hated it. I eventually got most of my favorite games working on Linux and just stopped using Windows completely, and that was before Valve released Proton. If Linux gaming stopped working completely I’d go back to being a console gamer. I just dislike the experience of trying to use modern Windows that much, and it’s only gotten worse since I left.

If you don’t think that’s “right” then your opinion is worthless to me. You can do whatever the hell you think is right, and so can I.

yozul ,
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I’ve been using Windows since Windows 3.11. I’ve tried every new version of Windows that has come out since. You’re on an obscure open source reddit alternative. Nobody here is confused by how to open an Excel spreadsheet. If you think me not liking something is “angsty” that’s a you problem. Gaming on Linux is great, and I don’t care how it is on other operating systems. Don’t tell me to do things I don’t enjoy to have fun. That’s just stupid. Telling people that they’re wrong for having fun in a way you don’t approve of is just weird and bad.

yozul ,
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You joined to read about other passionate Linux user who are enjoying playing games on Linux, but none of them are ever allowed to complain about anything ever?

Also, just for the record, if you ever find yourself on the internet explaining how someone feels to them then you are wrong. No exceptions. Tone is notoriously interpretable over text. Your interpretation of my tone is not justification for childish insults.

And holy crap, not wanting to use Windows is not the same as a delusional denial of reality. There are problems on Linux. A lot less than there used to be, but still significantly more than Windows. That doesn’t mean the only valid options are never complaining or installing Windows, especially for a native Linux game. Which the game we are talking about here is, by the way.

yozul ,
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Steam. It’s better on Linux, and GOG isn’t always DRM free anymore. Also, although most games do, Steam games don’t actually have to use any DRM.

yozul ,
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These kinds of lists have to factor in popularity too though. Otherwise the top 1,000 would all be shovelware with 1 or 2 negative votes. It’s not interesting or useful to point out that the games no one is going to play anyway are bad. A game that’s popular enough to even make it onto the list obviously isn’t going to actually literally be the worst game on Steam. That’s just how it has to work.

yozul ,
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Musk is actually kind of impressive at this point. It takes some real talent and determination to make Zuckerberg look like the good guy in comparison. There are not many people in the world who can even manage to pull that off once or twice, and Musk is doing it over and over again.

Anyone else starting to favor Flatpak over native packages?

I am currently using Linux Mint (after a long stint of using MX Linux) after learning it handles Nvidia graphics cards flawlessly, which I am grateful for. Whatever grief I have given Ubuntu in the past, I take it back because when they make something work, it is solid....

yozul ,
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They can take longer to start up, which can suck on older hardware. It’s not as bad as it used to be though. Once they’re running there shouldn’t really be any difference. The main drawback is actually that Flatpaks use more storage space.

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On my main PC I use for gaming I run Arch and prefer native packages whenever I can use them. I’m quite happy to have this one computer by a hobby project, and native applications just make more sense on something as up to date as Arch when they’re available. I have started to prefer Flatpak over AUR packages though. The AUR is pretty overrated, in my opinion.

On my laptop and anything else I install Linux on I usually just use LMDE, and I’ll often prefer the Flatpak, just because it’s way more up to date. There are some apps that Mint keeps up to date native versions of, and there are some apps that come preinstalled that I just don’t care about having the latest version of, but for everything else I usually just download the Flatpak.

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Storage space mostly isn’t as bad as it is with AppImages. Each AppImage stores all the libraries it needs, even if they are shared with another one. They can’t even know if they have shared libraries. A single AppImage will probably actually use less storage than a single Flatpak if you only have one, just because the AppImage only uses exactly the libraries it needs, while Flatpaks use shared sets of them. That being said, Flatpaks generally get less bad the more of them you use, because of the shared libraries. They’re still a whole extra set of libraries on top of your system ones though, plus they put out a new set every year. Apps that are still under active development generally get updated to the latest version, but older apps that are basically finished often require older libraries, so that’s more space used. Overall for a one off program when you’re not using universal packaging systems regularly AppImages are mostly better, but if you’re going to be using them regularly Flatpak quickly becomes far better. It still uses more storage space than just using native apps though.

Another difference between Flatpak and AppImage is that it can be kind of a pain to theme Flatpaks to match the rest of your system, and I don’t know of any good way to do it with qt6 apps yet, but it’s just straight up impossible to theme AppImages. They can technically have themes built into them, but unless you’re using Adwaita, or maybe Breeze if you’re lucky, they just don’t, and having to rebuild your own custom AppImage completely defeats the main benefit of using AppImages.

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yozul ,
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The Nazis set the fire, and now they’re fleeing along with everyone else.

And hey, I’d rather have them on Threads than in here with us.

yozul ,
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I’m gonna have to hard disagree on environmental storytelling. Not every story needs to be about a set of characters. Some stories are all about worldbuilding and mystery and discovery and that’s okay. It’s also okay if you hate those kinds of stories, but calling it “narrative homeopathy” just because you hate it is dishonest and arrogant. Some of my favorite books take place over generations with characters coming and going all the time and none of them really having any kind of narrative arc at all, but the story still ends up being one I enjoy. Does that not count as a story at all to you?

yozul ,
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One of my biggest problems with critics of systemd is that a lot of the same people who make that second point also argue against wayland adoption when xorg does the exact same thing as systemd. It makes me feel like they’re just grumpy stubborn old Linux nerds from the 90s who just hate anything that’s not what they learned Linux with.

Which is sad, because honestly I think it’s kind of not great that an unnecessarily massive project has gained such an overwhelming share of users when the vast majority of those users don’t need or use most of what it does. Yeah, the init systems from before systemd sucked, but modern alternatives like runit or openrc work really well. Unfortunately they get poorly supported because everyone just assumes you have systemd. I don’t like the lack of diversity. I think it’s a problem that any init system “won”.

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Arch with Cinnamon DE and I use flatpak and not the AUR.

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