yogthos

yogthos , 1 year ago

It’s as if western style liberal democracy is an inherently unstable political system.

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

Automation is only seen as a negative because of capitalist relations. In a socialist economy it just means more free time for people to enjoy as they like.

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

Why would it be satire. In case you’re not familiar with the concept of socialism, it’s a system where the means of production are publicly owned and directed towards meeting the common needs of people living in a country. The only goal of work is to create things that people need to live well. When this work can be automated then there is less work for people to do collectively.

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

If Corbyn one UK could’ve been in a much better place today.

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

Capitalism has done no such thing:

If we take just one country, China, out of the global poverty equation, then even under the $1.90 poverty standard we find that the extreme poverty headcount is the exact same as it was in 1981.

The $1.90/day (2011 PPP) line is not an adequate or in any way satisfactory level of consumption; it is explicitly an extreme measure. Some analysts suggest that around $7.40/day is the minimum necessary to achieve good nutrition and normal life expectancy, while others propose we use the US poverty line, which is $15.

In fact, capitalism is responsible for some of the worst crimes against humanity in history and is currently destroying our ecosystem at a planetary scale. You should also learn the difference between correlation and causation if you think that technology is developed as a result of capitalism.

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

yeah let’s look at some actual numbers shall we

Professor of Economic History, Robert C. Allen, concludes in his study without the 1917 revolution is directly responsible for rapid growth that made the achievements listed above possilbe:

• citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1…

Study demonstrating the steady increase in quality of life during the Soviet period (including under Stalin). Includes the fact that Soviet life expectancy grew faster than any other nation recorded at the time:

• www.jstor.org/stable/2672986?seq=1

A large study using world bank data analyzing the quality of life in Capitalist vs Socialist countries and finds overwhelmingly at similar levels of development with socialism bringing better quality of life:

• www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/…/amjph00269-0055.pdf

This study compared capitalist and socialist countries in measures of the physical quality of life (PQL), taking into account the level of economic development.

• pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2430906/

This study shows that unprecedented mortality crisis struck Eastern Europe during the 1990s, causing around 7 million excess deaths. The first quantitative analysis of the association between deindustrialization and mortality in Eastern Europe.

• academic.oup.com/cje/advance-article/…/7081084?gu…

Meanwhile, hilarious for you to mention Cuba and DPRK given that your shithole excuse for a country has done everything possible to choke their trade with the world. Good thing that SWIFT is going the way of the dodo now.

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

No, capitalist ideology that necessitates constant growth and capitalism is directly responsible for setting the conditions for how humans behave. Meanwhile, technology develops much faster outside capitalism as USSR has shown where nearly a century of capitalist progress was accomplished in mere decades with USSR going from an agrarian society at the time of the revolution to being the first in space.

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

Yeah, pretty hilarious that once these countries abandoned communism and switched to capitalism quality of life rapidly deteriorated. Thanks for underscoring my point.

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

Yes, according to actual data from the last 30 years. And of course, we can just see what the people who lived under both systems have to say:

• A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same. In no other Central or Eastern European country surveyed did so many believe that economic life is worse now than during the communist era. This is the result of almost universal displeasure with the economy. Fully 94% describe the country’s economy as bad, the highest level of economic discontent in the hard hit region of Central and Eastern Europe. Just 46% of Hungarians approve of their country’s switch from a state-controlled economy to a market economy; 42% disapprove of the move away from communism. The public is even more negative toward Hungary’s integration into Europe; 71% say their country has been weakened by the process.

• The most incredible result was registered in a July 2010 IRES (Romanian Institute for Evaluation and Strategy) poll, according to which 41% of the respondents would have voted for Ceausescu, had he run for the position of president. And 63% of the survey participants said their life was better during communism, while only 23% attested that their life was worse then. Some 68% declared that communism was a good idea, just one that had been poorly applied.

• Glorification of the German Democratic Republic is on the rise two decades after the Berlin Wall fell. Young people and the better off are among those rebuffing criticism of East Germany as an “illegitimate state.” In a new poll, more than half of former eastern Germans defend the GDR.

• A poll shows that as many as 81 per cent of Serbians believe they lived best in the former Yugoslavia -“during the time of socialism”. The survey focused on the respondents’ views on the transition “from socialism to capitalism”, and a clear majority said they trusted social institutions the most during the rule of Yugoslav communist president Josip Broz Tito. The standard of living during Tito’s rule from the Second World War to the 1980s was also assessed as best, whereas the Milosevic decade of the 1990s, and the subsequent decade since the fall of his regime are seen as “more or less the same”. 45 percent said they trusted social institutions most under communism with 23 percent choosing the 2001-2003 period when Zoran Djinđic was prime minister. Only 19 per cent selected present-day institutions.

• 75% of Russians have expressed increasingly positive opinions about the Soviet Union over the years. Only a small portion of those surveyed said they had negative associations with the Soviet Union. The economic deficit, long lines and coupons were named by 4% of respondents each, while the Iron Curtain, economic stagnation and political repressions were named by 1% each, the Levada Center said.

And it’s the height of ignorance to think that communism is a 19th century ideology that hasn’t been successfully evolving for over a century. I knew that UK education system was bad, but holy shit that’s embarrassing.

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

This same South Korea? Almost, like you have no clue regarding the subject you keep attempting to debate here 🤡 asiatimes.com/…/75-of-young-want-to-escape-south-…

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

Yeah, it’s so boring to hear what people living in the country have to say about it.

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

figures you wouldn’t understand what sarcasm is, bye

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

Yeah the fact that SA doesn’t agree with the west politically totally justifies holding their delegation hostage. Thank you for your insightful comment.

edit: presumably downvoters think it’s normal behavior for countries to do this sort of thing, if this is the way the west is going to keep acting on the world stage then life is going to get very hard for westerners

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

It’s possible for countries to act in self interest without acting as utter human garbage as western nations tend to do time and again.

yogthos OP , 1 year ago

lol, yeah hope they don’t nuke the feeds