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Capitalism is why they’re broke and why their life will continue getting worse each and every year until they overthrow their regime.

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Carbon emissions in China are far lower per capita than pretty much anywhere in the west, and that’s including the fact that much of the stuff people in the west consume is manufactured in China.

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asking the real questions :)

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China is so far ahead of the rest of the world when it comes to renewables and nuclear that it’s not even funny. China also has a concrete plan to become carbon neutral that it’s implementing at scale while the west keeps doing greenwashing and paying lip service to transitioning off fossils. The coal use you mention has been found to be in line with China’s 1.5c commitment.

Here’s the stunning progress China has made just this year alone in implementing solar.

In addition to renewables, CHina is making a massive investment in nuclear and it’s building 150 nuclear power plants.

In fact, fossil fuels less than half of power capacity.

China has more than 400,000 electric buses, about 99% of the world’s total.

Furthermore, China has done massive reforestation that has no equivalent anywhere else that I’m aware of

It’s kind of ironic that you posted a comment that’s distorting the progress China has made in moving off fossils is doing while accusing me of doing the same. You’re claiming that China is far from the best, and that’s just demonstrably a false statement. No other country is doing anything on the scale of China right now. Here’s a CSIS report showing that China is in fact the leader in global renewable energy. Meanwhile, studies show that it’s US/EU who are overwhelmingly responsible for emissions.

I really have no idea why you felt the need to write a post full of distortions and misinformation.

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Why would you lie about something that can be easily googled? reuters.com/…/china-widens-renewable-energy-suppl…

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Denmark is a tiny part of the west population wise. Compare all of western countries combined and the picture is very different. Again, why would you engage in such blatant cherry picking to misrepresent things?

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That would be like me picking a tiny village in China to make a point. What I claimed is that China is far ahead of the west, and you jumped in with a straw man. I’ve already provided you lots of sources showing that China is ahead of the west by every conceivable measure when it comes to renewables, feel free to go read them.

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If you actually read them then you know what you’re saying here is a lie. The links show that less than half of power production in China comes from fossils today, that china dominates in production and deployment of renewables as well as nuclear, and that China is doing massive reforestation. If you’re claiming these policies are bad, then what does that say about the rest of the world.

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I see they moved on from telling us not to have avocado to toast to just not have any toast.

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I still love that Jake Sullivan talk where he admits that the whole free market bullshit they’ve been promoting can’t actually compete with what China is doing. It’s an absolutely incredible read, Sullivan claims that the American economy lacks public investment, as it did after World War II. And that China is actively using this tool.

last few decades revealed cracks in those foundations. A shifting global economy left many working Americans and their communities behind.

The People’s Republic of China continued to subsidize at a massive scale both traditional industrial sectors, like steel, as well as key industries of the future, like clean energy, digital infrastructure, and advanced biotechnologies. America didn’t just lose manufacturing—we eroded our competitiveness in critical technologies that would define the future.

He also opined that the market is far from being able to regulate everything, and “in the name of overly simplified market efficiency, entire supply chains of strategic goods, along with the industries and jobs that produced them, were moved abroad.”

Another problem he identified is the growth of the financial sector to the detriment of the industrial and infrastructure sectors, which is why many industries “atrophied” and industrial capacities “seriously suffered.”

Finally, he admitted that colonization and westernization of countries through globalization has failed:

Much of the international economic policy of the last few decades had relied upon the premise that economic integration would make nations more responsible and open, and that the global order would be more peaceful and cooperative—that bringing countries into the rules-based order would incentivize them to adhere to its rules.

Sullivan cited China as an example:

By the time President Biden came into office, we had to contend with the reality that a large non-market economy had been integrated into the international economic order in a way that posed considerable challenges.

The People’s Republic of China continued to subsidize at a massive scale both traditional industrial sectors, like steel, as well as key industries of the future, like clean energy, digital infrastructure, and advanced biotechnologies. America didn’t just lose manufacturing—we eroded our competitiveness in critical technologies that would define the future.

In his opinion, all this has led to dangerous consequences for the US led hegemony:

And ignoring economic dependencies that had built up over the decades of liberalization had become really perilous—from energy uncertainty in Europe to supply-chain vulnerabilities in medical equipment, semiconductors, and critical minerals. These were the kinds of dependencies that could be exploited for economic or geopolitical leverage.

Today, the United States produces only 4 percent of the lithium, 13 percent of the cobalt, 0 percent of the nickel, and 0 percent of the graphite required to meet current demand for electric vehicles. Meanwhile, more than 80 percent of critical minerals are processed by one country, China.

America now manufactures only around 10 percent of the world’s semiconductors, and production—in general and especially when it comes to the most advanced chips—is geographically concentrated elsewhere.

At the same time, according to him, the United States does not intend to isolate itself from China.

Our export controls will remain narrowly focused on technology that could tilt the military balance. We are simply ensuring that U.S. and allied technology is not used against us. We are not cutting off trade.

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If you disagree with any specific points he makes feel free to let us know what they are and why. 🤡

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The mass denial that the pandemic is ongoing is incredibly disturbing.

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rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fractal_wrongness

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Anybody who screeches about authoritarian regimes exposes themselves as being intellectually bankrupt, and can be safely ignored. A great explanation of why this is a nonsensical narrative peddled by western pseudoleft cym.ie/…/left-anti-communism-the-unkindest-cut-by…

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…wordpress.com/…/liberalism-the-two-faced-tyranny…

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Your issue with the soviets is that you’re utterly illiterate on the subject of the soviets and should educate yourself instead of posting nonsensical comments in a public forum.

yogthos ,
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That’s right, I often highlight how the language western propagandists use to describe countries like China sounds when applied to western countries.

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I don’t see the approaches as mutually exclusive. Statistical correlation can get you pretty far, but we’re already seeing a lot of limitations with this approach when it comes to verifying correctness or having the algorithm explain how it came to a particular conclusion. In my view, this makes purely statistical approach inadequate for any situation where there is a specific result desired. For example, an autonomous vehicle has to drive on a road and correctly decide whether there are obstacles around it or not. Failing to do that correctly results in disastrous results and makes purely statistical approaches inherently unsafe.

I think things like GPT could be building blocks for systems that are trained to have semantic understanding. I think what it comes down to is simply training a statistical model against a physical environment until it adjusts its internal topology to create an internal model of the environment through experience. I don’t expect that semantic conceptualization will simply appear out of feeding a bunch of random data into a GPT style system though.

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Oh that’s possible, not sure which one they used either.

yogthos OP ,
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I’ve seen variations of this idea discussed in a few places, and there is a bunch of research happening around embodiment reinforcement training. A few prominent examples here

What you’re describing is very similar to stuff people have done with genetic algorithms where the agents evolve within the environment, the last link above focuses on that approach. I definitely think this is a really promising approach because we don’t have to figure out the algorithm that produces intelligence that way, but can wait for one to evolve instead.

And yeah, it’s going to be really exciting to plug AI models into different kinds of sensory data, it doesn’t even have to be physical world data. You could plug it into any stream of data that has temporal patterns in it, for example weather data, economic activity, or whatever and the AI will end up building a predictive model of it. I really think this is going to be the way forward for making actual AGI.

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Indeed, I definitely expect interesting things to start developing on that front, and we may see old ideas getting dusted off because now there’s enough computing power to put them to use. For example, I thought The Society of Mind from Minsky lays out a plausible architecture for a mind. Imagine each agent in that scenario being a GPT system, and the bigger mind being built out of a society of such agents each being concerned with a particular domain it learns about.

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I’m really excited to see this kind of stuff experimented with. I find it’s really useful of thinking of machine learning agent training in terms of creating a topology through balancing of the weights and connections that ends up being a model of a particular domain described by the data that it’s being fed. The agent learns patterns in the data it observes and creates an internal predictive model based on that. Currently, most machine learning systems seem to focus on either individual agents or small groups such as adding a supervisor. It would be interesting to see large graphs of such agents that interact in complex ways and where high level agents are only interacting with other agents and don’t even need to see any of the external inputs directly. One example would be to have a system trained on working with visual input and another with audio, and then have a high level system that’s responsible for integrating these inputs and doing the actual decision making.

and just ran across this arxiv.org/abs/2308.00352

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back to reddit with you

yogthos ,
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I can’t believe people are still trying to peddle this conspiracy theory in year 2023.

yogthos ,
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That’s precisely the sort of argument one would expect from a NAFO bot. Hope you earned enough FICO credit points to buy food tonight.

yogthos ,
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Last I checked liberals are all about respecting rules and international law, so we’re just holding you to your own standards here.

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so brave

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life is hard for you NAFO trolls now that you’re off reddit

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Meanwhile in the real world www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4331212/

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Nice try, but pointing out liberals being hypocrites has nothing to do with abandoning our own ideals. What’s being said is that you lot claim that’s how things should work and you don’t follow your own rules.

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Does your mommy chew your food for you too?

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We have a lot of pro empire shills here after the reddit migration.

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I love how liberals think anybody who’s outside of their echo chamber must be a paid shill. It’s absolutely inconceivable to them that there is a significant amount of people who have contrary opinions.

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Yes, anybody with half a brain can see that you have paranoid delusions.

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I love how liberals are only capable of regurgitating a handful of tropes they memorize like the bots they are.

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Good thing China has a far better human rights record than the west.

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it’s not so much that the joke’s on you, but rather that you embody the joke

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There’s really no reason to believe western oligarch owned media over Chinese state media. Of course, western propagandists rely on people such as yourself being already primed to believe the worst possible things about China making their work pretty easy.

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The second article links to Malaysian media.

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