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yogthos OP , 11 days ago to science in Giving Up on Consciousness as the Ghost in the Machine

1. you were the one to bring up soul in reply

Well reading it I’m not seeing any real studies or math or anything, just back and forth with people saying “Well it looks like we can’t find a soul anywhere, therefore without any real evidence consciousness is just an illusion and we as people don’t really exist, just sort of… believing we do because of brain juices.”

2. It quotes plenty of studies that have data. This is an aggregate analysis of a lot of prior work. It’s hard for me to take your comment seriously when you ignore this.
3. What I actually pointed out was that you’ve demonstrated lack of understanding of what science is in your comment. I even explained specifically what the nature of your misunderstanding was.

I no longer see any reason to respond to this discussion.

At least you know when to stop digging.

yogthos OP , 11 days ago to science in Giving Up on Consciousness as the Ghost in the Machine

The soul is not a hypothesis. The idea has no basis in science. Period.

“Well we know conciousness isn’t magic, so clearly it doesn’t exist at all in any meaningful way!”

Again, not what the paper says. I get the impression that you didn’t actually read it, and just keep making straw man arguments here.

And, how do we know there isn’t a non-physical reality from which this reality is itself an emergent property? That seems more likely than “People don’t REALLY exist”

Empiricism is the basis for scientific method. Science doesn’t deal with hypothetical that cannot be measured using experimental means. The fact that you posit this suggests you don’t actually understand how scientific process actually works or what science is fundamentally.

yogthos OP , 11 days ago (edited 11 days ago) to science in Giving Up on Consciousness as the Ghost in the Machine

Science consists of having a theory and testing the theory empirically. This work focuses on the theoretical model, and references numerous studies supporting their position.

therefore without any real evidence consciousness is just an illusion and we as people don’t really exist, just sort of… believing we do because of brain juices

That’s not what it says at all. What it’s actually saying is that what we perceive as consciousness is a byproduct of the subconscious and the likely evolutionary value of this construct is to facilitate social transfer of experience. It’s an argument against mind-body dualism which is itself a deeply unscientific concept.

Furthermore, the whole idea of a soul is laughably unscientific since it posits that there’s this magical entity that’s not an emergent property of the physical reality.

yogthos OP , 11 days ago to science in Giving Up on Consciousness as the Ghost in the Machine

do elaborate

yogthos OP , 11 days ago to worldnews in Ukrainian Men Desperate to Escape War Are Drowning as They Flee

Majority of Ukrainians fought with the Red Army against the fascists during the Great Patriotic War. People of USSR understood that fascists represented an existential threat to them, and that’s why they fought.

yogthos OP , 11 days ago to worldnews in Western Companies Are Now Paying for Russia Sanctions

This is the reality we observe, and entire books have been written explaining how selection pressures of the capitalist system end up prioritizing short term thinking. Again, both of your arguments stem from fundamental lack of understanding of how the system you live under operates.

yogthos OP , 11 days ago to worldnews in Ukrainian Men Desperate to Escape War Are Drowning as They Flee

So your solution is to lets Russia invade and not resist. I’m sure nobody will be murdered or end up a gulag. No. People will just defenestrate themselves or die of natural causes with 2 shots to the back of the head. That’s what double action means, right?

Ah yes, your fascist friends are going to end up in prison.

yogthos OP , 11 days ago to worldnews in Ukrainian Men Desperate to Escape War Are Drowning as They Flee

You’re the one who thinks people should die for the western backed regime in Ukraine. So put your money where your mouth is.

yogthos OP , 11 days ago to worldnews in Ukrainian Men Desperate to Escape War Are Drowning as They Flee

Go sign up for the foreign legion instead of cheering for other people to die.

yogthos OP , 11 days ago to worldnews in Western Companies Are Now Paying for Russia Sanctions

Thanks for further highlighting your lack of understanding of the subject.

yogthos OP , 11 days ago to worldnews in Western Companies Are Now Paying for Russia Sanctions

Literally the first sentence. Thinking that companies would avoid investing in the Russian market shows profound lack of understanding of how capitalism works. The whole system prioritizes short term gains over long term planning.

yogthos OP , 11 days ago to worldnews in Western Companies Are Now Paying for Russia Sanctions

Yup, that’s the level of argument I’ve come to expect from you.

yogthos , 11 days ago to worldnews in Thailand's economy: factory closures due to cheap Chinese imports with job losses jumping by 80% within one year

This is a great explanation of the dynamic at play americanaffairsjournal.org/…/the-value-of-nothing…

yogthos OP , 11 days ago to worldnews in Western Companies Are Now Paying for Russia Sanctions

You really can’t understand the difference between Russia and Cuba? 😂

yogthos OP , 11 days ago to worldnews in Western Companies Are Now Paying for Russia Sanctions

Very much agree.