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yogthos , to worldnews in Ukraine to Protect Its F-16 Fighter Fleet by Basing Planes ‘in Other Countries’
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I’m saying that what your sources claim has never been stated by Russia, and none of these sources actually link to anything ever stated by Russia. Since you’re claiming Russian red lines have been crossed, I asked you many times to provide the red lines that Russia actually stated. The fact that you keep doing mental gymnastics here instead of either providing red lines as stated by Russia or admitting you’re wrong is phenomenal.

I’ll ask you one last time. Please provide examples of Russia stating red lines that the west has crossed and Russia hasn’t reacted to. As far as I’m aware, Russia’s red line was NATO expansion into Ukraine and the reaction was the start of the war. The other red line that Russia has actually articulated was deep strikes into Russian territory using NATO weapons. This hasn’t happened so far which seems to be an indicator that NATO is not willing to cross this line.

yogthos , to memes in Just the little things
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yogthos , to worldnews in Ukraine to Protect Its F-16 Fighter Fleet by Basing Planes ‘in Other Countries’
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No, what I repeated is that Russia never actually stated what these sources claim, and these claims come directly from western propagandists. I asked you to substantiate your claim based on what Russia has actually said officially, and you’ve refused to do that because we both know such statements don’t exist. The fact that you are simply incapable of admitting that you’re spreading misinformation is frankly pathetic beyond belief.

Feel free to link to a primary source showing your argument, and not just “trust me bro, I said it already”. But also, you already said bye, so I’m not sure why you keep coming back? Is that also something you like repeating?

en.wikipedia.org/…/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)#P…

yogthos , (edited ) to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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This deal is probably the last chance to save anything of Ukraine, and it will naturally be rejected because the west wants to fight this war to the last Ukrainian. People cheering this on really need to ask themselves what this was all for. Ukraine is in a far worse situation today than it was two years ago, and it will be in a worse situation with each and every day that passes. Western support peaked during the disastrous summer offensive last year, and Ukraine is now running out of trained and motivated soldiers. It’s obvious to anyone with a functioning brain what the end result of all this will be.

yogthos , to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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Because Russia won the war.

yogthos , to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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so brave

yogthos , to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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a great way to say your mental development stopped at age 12

yogthos , to worldnews in Russia is producing artillery shells around three times faster than Ukraine's Western allies and for about a quarter of the cost
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When you definitely understand what a war time economy is.

yogthos , to worldnews in Russia is producing artillery shells around three times faster than Ukraine's Western allies and for about a quarter of the cost
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Not only that, but also at a fraction of a cost.

In October, NATO’s senior military officer, Adm. Rob Bauer, said that the price for one 155mm shell had risen from 2,000 euros ($2,171) at the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion to 8,000 euros ($8,489.60).

www.defenseone.com/business/2023/11/…/392288/

Russia’s production costs are also far lower than the West’s, in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality in its effort to build weapons more cheaply, Mr. Salm said. For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said.

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yogthos , to worldnews in Ukraine to Protect Its F-16 Fighter Fleet by Basing Planes ‘in Other Countries’
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I did repeatedly and in detail. At least lie about something that’s not literally in the same thread.

yogthos , to worldnews in Ukraine to Protect Its F-16 Fighter Fleet by Basing Planes ‘in Other Countries’
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I literally have repeatedly, the fact that you keep repeating this says all we need to know about your intellectual integrity. Bye.

yogthos , to worldnews in Ukraine to Protect Its F-16 Fighter Fleet by Basing Planes ‘in Other Countries’
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I’ve already explained to you why your source is misleading, and that the red lines your sources list trace back to western statements as opposed to Russian ones. It’s not about feels, it’s about you making an objectively false statement.

yogthos OP , to worldnews in An exclusive report from CNN covers Muslim internment camps US regime set up across occupied Syria
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If US left the region the problem would eventually be resolved by the people living there. It’s simply not the job of the US to play world police.

yogthos , to worldnews in Ukraine to Protect Its F-16 Fighter Fleet by Basing Planes ‘in Other Countries’
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If you believe that quote constitutes a threat to attack the west, which is what you claimed earlier in this thread, then it’s pretty clear there’s no point continuing the discussion.

yogthos , to worldnews in Ukraine to Protect Its F-16 Fighter Fleet by Basing Planes ‘in Other Countries’
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See how in your article no where does he state that the russian state is stronger or more capable then before the war?

Numerous other articles I linked state that, including the fact that both Russian economy and military industry have greatly expanded. It’s pretty obvious that Russian army couldn’t grow without that happening.

The only one doing cherry picking here is you. I provided numerous sources that all substantiate different aspects of the bigger picture. You on the other hand, found an article that regurgitates what you want to be true, which is at odds with all the available evidence.

It’s pretty clear that I’m not going to convince you of anything here, but good news is that reality has a way of asserting itself. So, you’ll have to start engaging with the real world before long. Best of luck to you.

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