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yogthos , to worldnews in Ukraine to Protect Its F-16 Fighter Fleet by Basing Planes ‘in Other Countries’
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Note how nothing my friend says has any relation to whether you fuck goats or not the same way as your source has nothing to do with Russia’s actual red lines.

yogthos , (edited ) to worldnews in Ukraine to Protect Its F-16 Fighter Fleet by Basing Planes ‘in Other Countries’
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To sum up, you said Russian red lines have been crossed. I asked you to point to statements from Russia where these red lines you’re talking about are being declared. You have not been able to do that. Instead, you’ve spent two whole days doing sophistry. You’re not fooling anybody here.

To make an analogy, it would be like me claiming that you say that you love to fuck goats because a friend of mine says that you said you love to fuck goats. Then when you ask me to point where you actually said that, I just keep insisting that I trust what my friend said.

yogthos , to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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It’s like linking to an economist discussing the subject of quantum physics.

yogthos , to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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Ah things that happened in Ukraine apply to Russia. That’s some impressive galaxy brain logic you’ve got going.

yogthos , to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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The peak of that was during the disastrous offensive Ukraine tried doing last year, and it’s been dwindling rapidly ever since. Even western media now admits that the west lacks the industrial capacity needed to fight a war of attrition on this scale.

yogthos , to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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Badly mauled is a weird way to say 15% larger than before the war started businessinsider.com/russias-army-15-percent-large…

Russia will very obviously be able to take Kiev and anything else it wants when Ukrainian army inevitably collapses. The reality is that the Ukraine was in its best position to make any positive change on the battlefront during the disastrous offensive last summer. That’s when the west cobbled all the support it could give, and Ukraine still had a large and motivated army. Western support is now drying up, meanwhile Ukrainian regime is running out of people to throw into the meat grinder.

and Ukraine has much more equipment and training than when the war began?

Literally the opposite is the case as even western media openly admits.

yogthos , to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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So you admit being stupid for supporting a dictator who banned opposition parties, shut down free media, and cancelled elections?

yogthos , to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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It makes perfect sense as a diversion, and plenty of military experts explained how this diversion pinned large parts of Ukrainian army in the west while Russia secured positions in the east.

Here’s a game theory analysis on the causes of the war. youtu.be/pBwT-5z9R5A

The fact that you get your ideas about the war from these sorts of youtube channels as opposed to people with actual military experience explains why you believe in nonsensical things.

Of course Russia’s aims were to get Ukraine to accept their terms in Istanbul, namely that they get to keep what they’ve stolen. Fundamentally the same offer in the headline here.

The offer in Istanbul was completely different. It required Ukraine to implement Minsk agreements which both Ukraine and the west claimed to support, and to stay neutral. Now, Ukraine is losing large parts of its territory, and the deal will only get worse. At least learn a bit about the subject you’re attempting to opine on.

yogthos , to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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I highly recommend reading what people with actual military experience have to say instead of random propagandists on youtube rusi.org/…/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-wa…

yogthos , to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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Meanwhile in the real world

yogthos , to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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What keeps Russia from taking more territory now until there’s no Ukraine left?

yogthos , to worldnews in Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv
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One has to be gullible beyond belief to believe in the premise that Russia was trying to capture Kiev with 100k troops. In fact, we now have admissions from Ukrainians themselves that Russian aim was to get Ukraine to accept negotiations in Istanbul. This was almost achieved, but the west sabotaged them and here we are now. The terms Ukraine would have received at the time were immeasurably better than anything it can possibly hope for today.

yogthos , to worldnews in Russia is producing artillery shells around three times faster than Ukraine's Western allies and for about a quarter of the cost
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Military production accounts for like 6% of Russian GDP. Lives for vast majority of people living in Russia haven’t been affected by the war in any way. Maybe read up a bit of history of WW2 to see what focusing a country on military production actually looks like.

yogthos , to worldnews in Ukraine to Protect Its F-16 Fighter Fleet by Basing Planes ‘in Other Countries’
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I’m saying that what your sources claim has never been stated by Russia, and none of these sources actually link to anything ever stated by Russia. Since you’re claiming Russian red lines have been crossed, I asked you many times to provide the red lines that Russia actually stated. The fact that you keep doing mental gymnastics here instead of either providing red lines as stated by Russia or admitting you’re wrong is phenomenal.

I’ll ask you one last time. Please provide examples of Russia stating red lines that the west has crossed and Russia hasn’t reacted to. As far as I’m aware, Russia’s red line was NATO expansion into Ukraine and the reaction was the start of the war. The other red line that Russia has actually articulated was deep strikes into Russian territory using NATO weapons. This hasn’t happened so far which seems to be an indicator that NATO is not willing to cross this line.

yogthos , to memes in Just the little things
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that does work better :)

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