yogthos

yogthos , 1 month ago to memes in for all the "anti-authoritarians" out there

You have been discrediting the accomplishments of anarchists while I have been acknowledging the accomplishments of marxists.

I’ve been pointing out that anarchists have not managed to put their ideas into practice on any appreciable scale while Marxists have done this. Ultimately, what I’m telling you is that anarchists need to show how they can actually make their ideas work and withstand the challenges that they face in the real world. This is a problem that anarchists have not been able to solve in my view.

You say that it’s the fault of Bolsheviks that anarchists didn’t get their way in USSR, but there’s no reason to believe that anarchists would’ve fared any better against the capitalist invasion that followed in 1918, or against the nazis a couple of decades later. In fact, the centralization of power that you decried was ultimately what allowed USSR to rapidly industrialize and come out victorious in WW2.

Meanwhile, I completely agree that the socialist projects that Marxists managed to build are not without their own problems. Yet, I think they are a strict improvement over capitalism as imperfect as they may be. My view is that the threat of fascism is very real and that it grows by the day, and in face of that the left should focus on using tools that have been proven to defeat fascism in the past.

yogthos , 1 month ago to memes in for all the "anti-authoritarians" out there

Revolutions require a critical mass of people to come together, and sometimes people who have different vision for the end goal find opportunities to work together as Bolsheviks and anarchists did. Lenin wrote extensively on the subject of when alliances should be formed. MLs don’t have a problem working with anarchists, recognizing that there are common interests and that a time may come where such alliances may need to be rethought. The hate largely comes from the side of anarchists who refuse to work with MLs and spend their time trying to discredit the accomplishments of existing socialist states.

It’s also worth noting that the reality in the west today is that both MLs and anarchists are an insignificant political minority. If the current system does end up collapsing in the near future, then fascism is the most likely outcome. While the left bickers, the right is rapidly growing in power in vast majority of western countries.

yogthos OP , 1 month ago to worldnews in Key global powers fail to sign up to Ukraine peace summit communique

I don’t need anyone to die, it’s not my fault that Russia attacked Ukraine!

You very clearly do since you reject peace that’s on the table. In fact, you’re the kind of person who wants other people to die for your ideals. The worst kind of individual. This war is happening because of the west. Period.

It could’ve been avoided entirely, and it could’ve been stopped two months in, and it could be stopped right now. The west wants to fight this war to the last Ukrainian. There’s even a whole study RAND put out explaining in great detail why US in particular wanted this war www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html

But that’s not justify all aggression and horror Russia brings.

This is just useless moralizing that accomplishes nothing and helps nobody. The reality of the situation is that Russia is going to win this war, and the only question is how many people will die or have their lives ruined in the process. What the west is doing is ensuring that this number is as high as possible.

Moreover, Putin started conscription before he sent his treaty to not enlarge NATO.

Moreover, you evidently aren’t aware of the fact that Russia has had compulsory military service since it was part of USSR.

I think he just wanted casus belli for aggression.

The RAND study I linked above explains who wanted casus belli for aggression in black and white.

Why Donbas war started in 2014?

Because US backed nationalists overthrew the legitimate government in Ukraine and started doing ethnic cleansing. This is something that’s pretty well documented.

Putin planned to take control over Ukraine many years earlier and this war is his way to take control by force but it backfired.

This is what’s called historical revisionism.

Sorry, I don’t know what you referring to? Could you elaborate about this offer? Are you referring current offer or some earlier one?

I’m referring to the current offer that was just made days ago, as well as the Istanbul agreement that the west sabotaged.

I get it, Russia is master in attritional war but even they cannot maintain war forever.

Russia doesn’t need to maintain the war forever. Ukraine is literally running out of trained soldiers already, and you can’t create an army by kidnapping people off the street. At some point the inflection point will be reached where there’s simply not enough professional core left in the army to hold things together, and the collapse will happen rapidly at that point the same way it happened to the Germans in WW2.

Furthermore, Russian economy is now growing having become the 4th largest while western economies are going into recessions with domestic unrest becoming sharper by the day. Russia will very obviously outlast the west. Whether Trump or Biden wins the election will not change the direction of travel because the problem the west faces is the its lack of industrial capacity.

yogthos , 1 month ago to worldnews in Birmingham, Britain's second-largest city, is being forced to dim lights and cut sanitation services due to bankruptcy

lmao chuds downvoting the elephant in the room

yogthos , 1 month ago to worldnews in Birmingham, Britain's second-largest city, is being forced to dim lights and cut sanitation services due to bankruptcy

a failed state

yogthos , 1 month ago to memes in for all the "anti-authoritarians" out there

The Bolsheviks’ had the ill-gotten might to push their agenda, but might does not make right. The Bolsheviks lied to and used the anarchists to achieve what they did, but anarchists have learned from their past mistakes and will prove you wrong.

No amount of moralizing will change the fact that anarchists fail to organize effectively time and again. If anarchists actually learned anything then we’d see that put into practice. The lack of any actual achievements is the elephant in the room here.

Capitalist aggression did not make necessary the regressive views on social issues and science the USSR had (which resulted in famine), nor the widespread corruption and bureaucratic inefficiency of state officials. You cannot simply excuse all flaws of the USSR by blaming global capitalism.

Yes, it absolutely did as anybody with even minimal historical knowledge would know.

yogthos OP , 1 month ago to worldnews in Key global powers fail to sign up to Ukraine peace summit communique

Lol, why being so aggressive? My skull is ok, thank you.

Hundreds of thousands of lives have already been because of the support for the war from people like you, but that’s just not enough you need more people to die before you accept the reality of the situation.

Putin can stop this war at any moment if he want.

Since that’s obviously not going to happen, I don’t know why you’re regurgitating this talking point that you’ve memorized. Also, the head of NATO has now publicly admitted why the war started

The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn’t sign that.

The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that.

So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders. He has got the exact opposite.

www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm

NYT has also just published the terms of the agreement that could’ve stopped the war 2 months after it started that the west tanked

nytimes.com/…/ukraine-russia-ceasefire-deal.html

If Putin really wants peace on these terms it’s signs that he feels strongest now because if he would think otherwise, that he could take more lands, he would definitely take this opportunity.

Wrong again, this was an offer that Russia will refer to when Ukraine is no longer in existence to point out that there was a way to save Ukraine that the west rejected. Don’t take it from me though, here is what western military analysts have to say on who will have the upper hand going forward:

rusi.org/…/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-wa…

yogthos , 1 month ago to memes in for all the "anti-authoritarians" out there

What I’m pointing out is that all ideologies compete with others. That’s the reality of the world. If Anarchists are not able to defend the way they want to organize society then their ideology ends up being trampled by others. That’s the world we live in. Calling this victim blaming doesn’t change the material reality of the world.

The difference between anarchists and communists is that the latter actually managed to build functional societies, and to effectively resist capitalism. Anarchists failed to do that, and the reasons for why anarchist approach fails time and again are well understood now.

What Bolsheviks achieved was the betrayal of all who fought for the liberation of the proletariat.

Repeating nonsense over and over will not make it true.

You speak as if the USSR only repressed the forces of reaction, but it also repressed the very same workers it claimed to support when they tried to claim the worker control of the means of production they were promised.

This is an idealist position that’s divorced from realities of the world. USSR existed under siege from global capitalism throughout its whole existence, and that was the reason it was organized the way it was.

yogthos OP , 1 month ago to worldnews in Key global powers fail to sign up to Ukraine peace summit communique

I’m sure all that made a lot of sense in your head when you wrote it.

yogthos OP , 1 month ago to worldnews in Key global powers fail to sign up to Ukraine peace summit communique

No, it’s a very realistic vision of peace and the best one Ukraine can hope for. Putin doesn’t need time to prepare, the offensive is already happening all across the front, and Ukraine is losing the war of attrition as even western media openly admits now. Western support for Ukraine has peaked during the disastrous offensive last year, and that was the best chance Ukraine was going to have to make any changes in this war. Anybody who still can’t get this through their skulls really needs to start engaging with reality.

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mass shootings and police brutality come to mind

yogthos , 1 month ago to memes in for all the "anti-authoritarians" out there

This clearly illustrates that anarchists are not capable of organizing in effective ways that can protect their ideology. The same way anarchists ended up losing to Bolsheviks, they end up losing to capitalists, and fascists. What Bolsheviks achieved was to build a socialist state that was able to defend itself and greatly improve the lives of the working majority. Anarchists simply aren’t capable of doing that as the past century has shown beyond all doubt.

USSR was the first ever attempt at building socialism at scale, and while it may have collapsed, other socialist projects live on today and continue to improve lives of over a billion people on this planet.

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he’s less overtly open about being a fascist than the gop you mean

yogthos , 1 month ago to memes in for all the "anti-authoritarians" out there

Nah, I’m going by the actual tangible achievements, or lack of thereof as the case may be, of anarchists based on the teachings of their thinkers.

This was true of the Russian revolution when “all power to the Soviets” became hollow words and “war communism” became the new oppressor of the people.

Having actually grown up in USSR, I can tell you that listening to anarchists regurgitate this nonsense is incredibly offensive. It completely discredits your argument and shows that it is you who’s opining on a subject you have no understanding of. All people like you accomplish is enable capitalist oppression by rejecting real world solutions.

yogthos OP , 1 month ago to worldnews in Ukraine war: Conscription squads send Ukrainian men into hiding

Exactly, westerners who want Ukrainians to die for their ideals should lead by example.