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yogthos , to worldnews in The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes
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Compared to China, Cuba, and Vietnam.

yogthos , to worldnews in The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes
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So what you are saying is that you suddenly aren’t interested in data?

You mean data such as this? businessinsider.com/typical-chinese-adult-now-ric…

that the west has been raising people out of poverty for 200 years and is still doing a pretty decent job of it.

That’s a false statement:

If we take just one country, China, out of the global poverty equation, then even under the $1.90 poverty standard we find that the extreme poverty headcount is the exact same as it was in 1981.

The $1.90/day (2011 PPP) line is not an adequate or in any way satisfactory level of consumption; it is explicitly an extreme measure. Some analysts suggest that around $7.40/day is the minimum necessary to achieve good nutrition and normal life expectancy, while others propose we use the US poverty line, which is $15.

Western liberalism has resulted in some of the worst crimes against humanity in the past 200 years such as the slave trade and the genocide of the native population in America to name a couple.

Look, we all know that western liberalism has a lot of really fucking dumb shit about it in the current iteration. And I will definitely acknowledge that there are a lot of good ideas in China. China’s economic miracle is laudable, but - and I say this as a person with an actual stake in Chinese society - it’s time for China to do better, and China doesn’t get better when delusional tankies defend its many clear and obvious problems.

Nobody said China couldn’t and shouldn’t do better or that China doesn’t have problems. This is literally the case for every human society. However, what’s being argued is that China is demonstrably producing better material outcomes than western liberal democracies are.

yogthos , to worldnews in The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes
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Bro I have friends from China, and lots of my friends moved back to China after university. Weird how Chinese students keep returning to China because it’s such a hell right. What’s insane is that somebody could live in the west and not see the brainwashing.

Meanwhile, it’s absolutely hilarious how you keep going on about corruption when countries like US have an entire government owned by the oligarchs.

Again, the fact you keep dancing around is that quality of life in China has been improving dramatically by practically every measure, meanwhile the opposite is happening in the west. That’s the elephant in the room mr. transparency index.

yogthos , to worldnews in The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes
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It’s like I linked a whole bunch of scholarly articles from institutions like Harvard explaining Chinese politics. The reality is that people in China have seen their lives consistently improve with each and every decade. Countless studies show that the standard of living in China is improving at an incredible rate, and that people see the government work in their interest.

And yes, China isn’t perfect, there’s corruption, but that’s missing the point entirely. Corruption exists in every human society, the discussion is whose interest the government is working in. In the west the government works in the interest of the capital owning class, in China it works in the interest of the working majority.

yogthos , to worldnews in The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes
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Yeah, I’m as serious as Harvard is. Maybe bother learning about the subject you’re opinion on?

yogthos OP , to worldnews in De-dollarization: Egypt drubs dollar in trade with BRICS nations
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I see seething and coping is going well for you

yogthos , to worldnews in The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes
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It’s amazing how much factual information you can find in western sources when you know where to look. The genius of western propaganda though is that majority of people will not read these sources, and will react the way we see a lot of people in this thread reacting when presented with them. There’s no need for censorship because people censor themselves collectively. This is the ultimate brainwashing the west managed to achieve.

yogthos , to worldnews in The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes
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Imagine thinking oligarchs control China 😂

yogthos , to worldnews in The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes
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Sorry, you can’t have democracy without basic political agency. You can’t have basic political agency without the ability to speak freely.

Somebody should let people like Assange, Manning, and Snowden know that they can speak freely.

Picking between three party approved technocrats is not sufficient for political self determination.

Ah yes, real democracy is picking between parties owned by the oligarchs. 😂

yogthos , to worldnews in The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes
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Just stating basic facts bro.

yogthos OP , to technology in While we get frivolous stuff like ChatGPT, China is putting technology such as 5G and AI towards actual productive use by creating fully automated ports.
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Claiming that China and USSR aren’t socialist quite clearly illustrates that you do not in fact know what socialism is.

yogthos , to worldnews in The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes
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Seems like the problem isn’t with democracy, but with the western flavor of liberal parliamentary democracy. Democracy is working just fine in China according to people who live there. All the available studies, including ones coming from prominent western institutions such as Harvard, consistently show that China is democratic and that public satisfaction with the government is far higher than in any western country:

edit: amazing to see rediquette seep into Lemmy now with people downvoting anything that doesn’t fit with their preconceptions.

It’s also evident that a lot of people here don’t actually understand what democracy actually is. Democracy is when the government implements the will of the majority. What the links I’ve provided show is that the government in China consistently works in the interest of the people of China, and this is reflected in consistently high public satisfaction with the government. Furthermore, the links show that public participation in the governance of China is far higher than it is in the western countries. The party has 15 million members, and consists largely of working class people. Meanwhile, western parties are filled with rich career politicians with practically no working class representation.

The sheer amount of political illiteracy in the west is equal parts depressing and hilarious.

yogthos , to worldnews in The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes
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It’s as if western style liberal democracy is an inherently unstable political system.

yogthos OP , to technology in While we get frivolous stuff like ChatGPT, China is putting technology such as 5G and AI towards actual productive use by creating fully automated ports.
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Why would it be satire. In case you’re not familiar with the concept of socialism, it’s a system where the means of production are publicly owned and directed towards meeting the common needs of people living in a country. The only goal of work is to create things that people need to live well. When this work can be automated then there is less work for people to do collectively.

yogthos OP , to technology in While we get frivolous stuff like ChatGPT, China is putting technology such as 5G and AI towards actual productive use by creating fully automated ports.
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Automation is only seen as a negative because of capitalist relations. In a socialist economy it just means more free time for people to enjoy as they like.

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