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samae ,
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Is it so desirable to sent even more info, this time potentially non-public, if you decide to interact with the other instance?

This includes partial information about your online identity, namely identifying you uniquely. Not all instances should be considered trustworthy, so your log-in token may get re-used by a malicious instance to post things in your name here and there. Kind of a silly situation, favorable to spammers for example.

samae ,
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Wouldn’t that overload popular instances even more? Right now, popular instances only need to accommodate their users, but with a “fediverse-wide” auth, soon they’ll also have to serve content to people who followed that popular link to their content?

samae ,
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I hope you understand how this is discouraging: at present, federation is anything but straightforward.

There’s also a question of perspective. If you approach federation with the mindset that it will be like the sort of SSO you get with using google products, microsoft ecosystem, or facebook to log in to many websites, then yes: it’s doesn’t look straightforward.

If you approach it with the perspective that the coupling between fediverse applications being more loosely coupled, and have the way email work in mind, then it is actually more natural. Each application can do their own thing, and provide all or partial compatibility with the fediverse. Think of a blog application, which rely on the fediverse only for the comment section of each blog posts, but also does other things specific to that application. Taking the example of email again, nobody thinks they should be able to log-in to microsoft outlook using their gmail account, or to gmail using their home-made account, in order to read and send emails.

There’s a narrative aspect to it too.

samae ,
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Have you tried the archive link? There’s no need to sign in with it

samae ,
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Is it now? Github says it’s Rust at 80%. And a layer of rust is a good protection again further rust 😃

github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy

samae ,
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I had “weathering steel” in mind, butt you’re right, even in this case, rust still eats at it, just slower.

samae ,
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Good reminder that: small instances = small impact. Both true for the positive and the negative.

samae ,
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not enough nodes were there

And a bit later he mentions “Not just all account servers; different kinds of services”. I have a feeling this has been overlooked in the recent discussions about Threads. The fediverse is an excellent base to launch a myriad of varied kinds of services, not all of them “account servers” like lemmy, mastodon, pixelfed, etc. Let’s also build more bots and automated services too :3 It could be games played through fedi, it could be statistics, admin tools, and whatever comes to mind.

This is the kind of thing that would be added value even for huge account nodes, and would probably act as a deterrent to want to change the rules of the game (making changes to ActivityPub). If you change the proto, your users would lose access to all the nice things that exist outside of the instance, quite the backlash, like what happened with reddit.

What do you all think?

samae ,
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One could make the argument that 5000 users is still not mass adoption. If that is enough activity, then mass adoption is not a requirement for the fediverse to be a nice social place to be.

What will Meta gain from fediversing?

I don’t understand what Meta will gain from participating in the fediverse? Their ultimate goal is to make money of Threads and I just don’t see how encouraging an open federation will help them do it? Even 3Eing the fediverse will not do them much good as they already have sooo much traffic already that killing the...

renwillis , (edited ) to fediverse
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"It’s been 5 minutes and Instagram’s Threads already sucks." 🧵👎

⚠️ NEW ARTICLE BY ME! ⚠️

https://rentsuru.medium.com/its-been-5-minutes-and-instagram-s-threads-already-sucks-f10d507807ed

Threads is the answer to the question: “What if we took Instagram’s comment section and just made THAT the new Twitter?”

Enjoy and thanks for reblogs & shares! @fediverse

samae ,
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Speaking of sucking… Medium is on the blacklist.

samae ,
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I shouldn’t have generalized, my bad. Let me rephrase: they are on my blacklist. Mainly because I get jumped by popups every time I try and focus to read something nice somebody wrote there…

samae ,
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Now we just need to wait and see if Reddit takes the bait and joins the fediverse too, as an attempt to stop hemorraging users. grabs popcorn

samae ,
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Best thing that could happen is that reddit would respond with a surprise “we too” will federate with you all, and implement activity pub. Then you have two big actors competing on an open playground. And we grab a drink and enjoy the light show.

samae , (edited )
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A counterpount: You can be a young user and not realize yet how wide is public sharing, you may be in an altered state (griefing, drunk) or be pushed around by disability (adhd, or other cognitive impairements). IMO these are not all qualifying as “being a dumbass”.

Additionnally, it’s possible nobody is able to correctly predict the future. Are your thoughts today going to cause you grief tommorrow, in a year, in 10? How about you post today about how good the orange juice you had was, but that is later on an excuse to put you in a labor camp with others due to the fact that eating fruits is now seen as unholy and that you are a sinner, in need of correction?

There is a balance to be struck between “all is public and it is your own fault”, and privacy nightmare. There should be some teaching happening. As somebody else mentions, having a habbit to use Matrix for DMs and more personal matters is one of these good habbits.

samae ,
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You could reach out to your instance’s admin, asking them where they are at with the update?

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