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davel , to memes in Maybe we can get good IPv6 support now
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As Snowden, Assange, and other whistleblowers have shown, in The Land of the Free™ the carriers are in bed with the government. I doubt it’s all that different in other Five/Nine/Fourteen Eyes countries.

davel , to memes in tell the US to stop supplying bombs to China!!!
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Won’t somebody please think of dead people’s egos!

davel , to nottheonion in Hiker finds pipe feeding China's tallest waterfall
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I’ve seen more than one artificially-fed waterfall in my own US city, so I don’t know what you’re on about.

davel , to memes in tell the US to stop supplying bombs to China!!!
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Of course Western media aren’t talking about it: it’s their job not to. They’re the ones pushing the “Uyghur genocide” narrative in the first place. Western media are the media of the capitalist class of the imperial core. The cold war(s)[1][2] and red scare(s)[1][2][3][4] never ended.

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Your understanding of China is received wisdom from the imperial core’s governments, think tanks, and corporate media, so your criticisms of it are not reality-based. It’s fine to criticize anything & anyone—China included—but https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Library:Oppose_Book_Worship#I._No_Investigation,_No_Right_to_Speak.

Also, all this “simping” framing is tiresome. Historical materialists don’t subscribe to . We’re not known for simping, liberals are.

davel , to worldnews in New polling shows most Americans and Europeans want the Ukraine war to come to an end.
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The US has wanted to break up or otherwise weaken/isolate Russia ever since almost immediately after the break-up of the USSR. That’s why it’s been expanding NATO ever-closer to Russia despite originally having sworn up & down never to move one inch eastward. The US couldn’t allow a Ukrainian government to stand that was friendly with Russia.

The US doesn’t want Europe and Russia to develop closer ties, because it doesn’t want the “Eurasian landmass” to ever cohere, because then it would become too self-sufficient and powerful for the US to control. Zbigniew Brzezinski laid this theory out when the Soviet Union fell. That’s why the US tried to convince Europe not to build Nord Stream 2 and then later not to turn it on, why Biden said he would “bring an end to it” if Russia invaded, and why they ultimately did bring an end to it.

The US also very much wants regime change or balkanization in Russia so it can resume its neocolonial plundering of it, which started under Yeltsin and ended under Putin. That’s why the US has a special hate for Putin in particular.

The US has been meddling in Europe ever since WWII, and Ukraine has an even longer fascist history.

davel , to memes in tell the US to stop supplying bombs to China!!!
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There is not ethnic cleansing going on, as I expounded on upthread.

davel , (edited ) to memes in tell the US to stop supplying bombs to China!!!
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That is what we are told by our government & think tanks & corporate media. It’s a load of doo-doo.

The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and once those efforts failed, it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just last month.

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The blueprint of regime change operations

We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.

Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.

The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.

Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.

Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).

Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.

As part of China’s affirmative action policies, the Uyghurs and other ethic minorities were excepted from the One-Child policy, and in Xinjiang they have grown in numbers relative to Hans as a result, and this happened similarly with other ethnic minorities in China.

davel , (edited ) to asklemmy in Are you a 'tankie'
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Hang on, so you’re telling me you guys use ‘liberal’ to encapsulate everything from Bernie Sanders to George W Bush?

If you’re going to double down on not reading the Wikipedia entries for liberalism or socialism, I’m not sure what to tell you.

Yes, Sanders, both Bushes, and Reagan are/were all liberals. Off the top of my head I don’t recall the US ever having had a president who wasn’t a liberal. We had a bourgeois revolution to overthrow a still semi-feudal monarchy, and we’ve been a bourgeois-run state ever since, just as the bourgeois Founding Fathers intended. Our government was never meant to represent the working class, and it never has.

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Also, while I wouldn’t call Sanders a socialist either, he is not a centrist by any standard measure.

Sanders is a centrist by the standard measure: the left is socialism; the right is liberalism. He’s center-left at best. He wants to preserve the bourgeois order while providing a better safety net to the proletariat. He is in no way on the left, and he has a history of supporting US imperialism.

The Overton window in the US is so far to the right that most Americans wouldn’t know the left if it bit them.

davel , to asklemmy in Are you a 'tankie'
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davel , to asklemmy in Are you a 'tankie'
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davel , (edited ) to asklemmy in Are you a 'tankie'
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davel , to asklemmy in Are you a 'tankie'
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Actually we do tend to apply “liberal” correctly.

It is liberals themselves who tend to not have even a Wikipedia-level understanding of liberalismtheir own ideology!—or of socialism. And that’s how a centrist liberal like Bernie Sanders can get away with calling himself a socialist despite never calling for the abolition of private ownership of the means of production, because Burgerlanders don’t know their asses from their elbows politically thanks to over a century of red scares and cold wars, which are still ongoing[1][2].

davel , to asklemmy in Are you a 'tankie'
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^[Citation\ needed]^

davel , to programmerhumor in They'd still both rather use C++ than each other though
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Homoiconicity is the shit.

davel , to asklemmy in Are you a 'tankie'
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The global wave of fascism isn’t coming from nowhere, it’s largely the result of neoliberalism, which is a form of capitalism in decay. And you don’t have to be a Marxist to understand this: even Noam Chomsky and Chris Hedges get it. Noam Chomsky: Neoliberalism and the roots of fascism

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