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Have you ever considered that the Prime Directive is not only not ethical, but also illogical, and perhaps morally indefensible?

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ValueSubtracted , to startrek in Attended the Discovery series finale screening in Beverly Hills. Amazing time.
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And then they’ll tell you again.

And again…

And again…

And again…

ValueSubtracted , to startrek in What are some underrated episodes from each series?
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Underrated: Oh boy, time for some takes

TOS: This might be the hardest to pick - maybe “The Corbomite Maneuver”? It’s fairly well-known, but is crowded out in a season full of classics.

TAS: Pretty much everything besides “Yesteryear” is underrated, but if I have to pick one, I’d pick “The Magicks Of Megas-Tu” for sheer weirdness.

TNG: “Remember Me” - really good episode. I think it’s pretty well-regarded, but it should be better regarded.

DS9: I’ve always been very fond of “The Sound of Her Voice,” for some reason. I don’t think I’d ever seen anything quite like it when it originally aired.

VOY: I think “Counterpoint” is the finest episode they ever did, but people rarely talk about it.

ENT: Uh…I guess I’ll say “Daedalus” - it does a lot of worldbuilding surrounding the transporter, but isn’t one of the big “lore” episodes that people tend to talk about.

DSC: “Su’Kal”. The cause of the Burn is something that speaks to the humanist core of Star Trek in a way that many people seem to overlook.

PIC: “Remembrance.” The first episode of the series is nearly perfect.

LD: I don’t know if the nature of the show lends itself to this exercise, but I’ll say “An Embarrassment of Dooplers”.

PRO: “Crossroads” - the kids arriving at a turning point, and making the kinds of dumb decisions that kids make.

SNW: “Ghosts of Illyria,” I guess - this series is still pretty fresh, but this is one of the better episodes that isn’t a “gimmick” episode.

ValueSubtracted OP , to startrek in Inside the ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Series Finale: The Last-Minute Coda, the Surprise Easter Eggs, and What Season 6 Would Have Been About (EXCLUSIVE)
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Hypothetically, I think I’d structure it somewhat similarly to season 5: a couple of episodes to establish the stakes, two or three more to gather information or materials, then a couple to put the plan together and enact it, and then ideally at least one to catch up with Zora after the events of “Calpyso.”

As it is, there are so many unanswered questions surrounding this mission that I hope we at least get a novel or something out of it.

ValueSubtracted , to startrek in NPR: 'Star Trek: Discovery' ends as an underappreciated TV pioneer
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Yes, it disappeared and reappeared at different locations - it did not hoover up entire sectors.

ValueSubtracted , to startrek in NPR: 'Star Trek: Discovery' ends as an underappreciated TV pioneer
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The DMA destroyed one station, one populated planet, and one colony that was evacuated before it struck. A sector is 20 LY across.

If they were to use the power, they could rebuild kweijan and all of the damage to planets and creatures in season four.

The finale established that the technology could reanimate a dead body, but couldn’t restore minds or personalities. There’s also no indication that it could build a planet or reanimate bodies that were crushed in an artificial singularity.

ValueSubtracted , to startrek in Why Detmer & Owosekun Were Missing From Star Trek: Discovery Season 5 Explained By Showrunner
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I think it was a worthy experiment - take the nameless, silent extras that populate the bridge on the older shows and give them a little more to do.

But I think it created some unintended and unfortunate audience expectations. Maybe a failed experiment.

I would imagine none of those actors were under contract.

ValueSubtracted OP , to startrek in Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Discovery | 5x10 "Life, Itself"
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It looks like they’re doing a better job of retaining props from shows once they’ve wrapped, so maybe there’s a chance they’ll put the sets in storage in case they decide to use them again - either in a movie (the rumour is/was that they want to do a streaming movie every two years), or for the occasional guest appearance on the Academy show.

But what was up with Detmer and Owo being side lined for the second half of the season.

Michelle Paradise said yesterday that both actors were unavailable during filming, having booked other projects.

ValueSubtracted , to startrek in Why Detmer & Owosekun Were Missing From Star Trek: Discovery Season 5 Explained By Showrunner
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I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, but I didn’t realize there were conspiracy theories floating around about them being fired or some nonsense. I figured the actual reason was probably pretty benign.

ValueSubtracted OP , to startrek in Inside the ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Series Finale: The Last-Minute Coda, the Surprise Easter Eggs, and What Season 6 Would Have Been About (EXCLUSIVE)
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I wouldn’t say I found it distracting, if only because I knew it was coming, but I can definitely see the argument that it wasn’ t necessary.

ValueSubtracted OP , to startrek in Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Discovery | 5x10 "Life, Itself"
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Zora’s already demonstrated the capacity to disobey an order if she wants to.

So we don’t know if Zora’s being “tortured” from her perspective, and we have pretty solid evidence that she could just leave if she wants to.

ValueSubtracted OP , to startrek in Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Discovery | 5x10 "Life, Itself"
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At this point, you’re just describing a Starfleet officer.

ValueSubtracted OP , to startrek in Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Discovery | 5x10 "Life, Itself"
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Whoops, fixed a typo in my comment.

What I’m trying to say is, I don’t think it can be called cruelty if Zora, in her capacity as an artificial intelligence, doesn’t mind. It may not be accurate to assume she will react in the way a human would.

ValueSubtracted OP , to startrek in Inside the ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Series Finale: The Last-Minute Coda, the Surprise Easter Eggs, and What Season 6 Would Have Been About (EXCLUSIVE)
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Nope - after they were cancelled, they were allowed to go back and film some additional scenes to add to the end of the finale to give it some closure.

ValueSubtracted OP , (edited ) to startrek in Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Discovery | 5x10 "Life, Itself"
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I think that makes certain assumptions about how Zora engages with the world, which may or may not be correct. I’d really like to rewatch “Calypso” as it’s been ages, but Paramount+ seems to have…misplaced the Short Treks in my country.

ValueSubtracted , to startrek in NPR: 'Star Trek: Discovery' ends as an underappreciated TV pioneer
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But it took how many months of retooling to give us the last season?

Less than one, as far as I’m aware. They got permission to write and film an additional three days’ worth of footage, which became the epilogue to the episode. Everything else is exactly as they orginally shot it, from what they’ve said.

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