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TCB13 , 4 months ago to selfhosted in Should I learn Docker or Podman?

It’s definitely much easier to do that on docker than with apt packages,

What a joke.

Most people will use whatever docker compose file a project shows as default, if the project hosts the images on dockerhub that’s their choice

Yes and they point the market in a direction that affects everyone.

GitHub is also proprietary and no one cares that a project is hosted there.

People care and that’s why there are public alternatives such as Codeberg and the base project Gitea.

TCB13 , 4 months ago to selfhosted in Should I learn Docker or Podman?

Yet people chose to use those proprietary solutions and platforms because its easier. This is just like chrome, there are other browser, yet people go for chrome.

It’s significantly hard to archive and have funcional offline setups with Docker than it is with an APT repository. It’s like an hack not something it was designed for.

TCB13 , 4 months ago to selfhosted in Should I learn Docker or Podman?

But you’re not likely to get any of that by default when you just install from the package manager as it’s the discussion here,

This is changing… Fedora is planning to enable the various systemd services hardening flags by default and so is Debian.

We’re talking about ease of setting things up, anything you can do in docker you can do withou

Yes, but at what cost? At the cost of being overly dependent on some cloud service / proprietary solution like DockerHub / Kubernetes? Remember that the alternative is packages from your Linux repository that can be easily mirrored, archived offline and whatnot.

TCB13 , 4 months ago to selfhosted in Should I learn Docker or Podman?

At least let’s use podman and I will keep fighting for containers being at least optional.

Well, systemd can also provide as much isolation and security. It’s another option… :) as well as LXC.

TCB13 , 4 months ago to linux in Linux Switch advice?

The truth is that you have to chase wayland, because it is the future.

Ahahaha nice one.

TCB13 , 4 months ago to selfhosted in Should I learn Docker or Podman?

I see your point and would usually think the same way / agree with it, however the issue with Docker is that you’re kind of forced and coerced into using those proprietary solutions around it. It also pushed people into a situation where it’s really hard to not depend on constant internet services to use it.

TCB13 , 4 months ago to linux in Linux Switch advice?

The “what you go for it’s entirely your choice” mantra when it comes to DE is total BS. What happens is that you’ll find out while you can use any DE in fact GNOME will provide a better experience because most applications on Linux are design / depend on its components. Using KDE/XFCE is fun until you run into some GTK/libadwaita application and small issues start to pop here and there, windows that don’t pick on your theme or you just created a frankenstein of a system composed by KDE + a bunch of GTK components.

TCB13 , 4 months ago to linux in Linux Switch advice?

Just install your software using Flatpak and the latest with a reliable OS.

TCB13 , 4 months ago to linux in Linux Switch advice?

Enlightening me then…

TCB13 , 4 months ago to linux in Linux Switch advice?

Not sure where you got the idea it was slow… but okay, keep using your perpetual half made Mint/Pop/Arch whatever. :P

TCB13 , 4 months ago to linux in Linux Switch advice?

Fair enough, but I don’t want to have to battle my computer every time single I want to get anything done… and most of the Linux community forgets that the general public kind of shares that opinion.

TCB13 , 4 months ago to linux in Linux Switch advice?

Ubuntu will work just fine with a minimum of “getting basic things to work.” (…) I suggest Ubuntu.

I don’t disagree with you, Ubuntu may make be easier but with it you get the worst of both worlds - no “good” and “solid” proprietary apps + questionable open-source, potential spyware and other shenanigans Canonical is known for. In that case I would rather keep using Windows and have everything working out of the box.

If one lives in a bubble and doesn’t to collaborate then native Linux apps might deliver a decent workflow. Once collaboration with Windows/Mac users is required then it’s game over – the “alternatives” aren’t just up to it. Proprietary applications provide good and complex features, support, development time and continuous updates that FOSS alternatives can’t just match.

Windows licenses are cheap and things work out of the box. Software runs fine, all vendors support whatever you’re trying to do and you’re productive from day zero. Sure, there are annoyances from time to time, but they’re way fewer and simpler to deal with than the hoops you’ve to go through to get a minimal and viable/productive Linux desktop experience. It all comes down to a question of how much time (days? months?) you want to spend fixing things on Linux that simply work out of the box under Windows for a minimal fee. Buy a Windows license and spend the time you would’ve spent dealing with Linux issues doing your actual job and you’ll, most likely, get a better ROI.

You can buy a second hand computer with a decent 8th generation CPU for around 200 € and that includes a valid Windows license. Computers selling on retail stores also include a Windows license, students can get them for free etc. what else?

TCB13 , 4 months ago to selfhosted in Should I learn Docker or Podman?

Yes, and this is even better.

TCB13 , 4 months ago (edited 4 months ago) to selfhosted in Should I learn Docker or Podman?

You’re using LXC… so you may want to learn about Incus/LXD that was made by the same people who made LXC, can work as a full replacement for Proxmox in most scenarios. Here a few reasons:

• It is bellow the Linux Containers project, open-source;
• Available on Debian 12’s repositories;
• Unlike Proxmox, it won’t withhold important fixes on the subscription (payed) repositories;
• Is way, way lighter;
• LXC was hacked into Proxmox, they simply removed OpenVZ from their product and added LXC and it won’t even be as compatible and smooth as Incus;
• Also has a WebUI;

Why not try it? :)

TCB13 , 4 months ago to selfhosted in Should I learn Docker or Podman?

^ lemmy.world/comment/8723816