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TCB13 , to linux in Who here uses a less popular Linux distribution? What made you choose it?
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“for me they mostly stemmed from the immutability of it” 😱 😱 someone saying that immutably OSes are crap. I can’t believe what I’m reading 😂 Related discussion: lemmy.world/comment/4571828

TCB13 , to linux in Misconceptions About Immutable Distributions
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Android isn’t that “cut and dry tho” they can unlock the partition.

TCB13 , to linux in Wine-wayland part 8: More window management Merged
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Because I have to work with other people who use MS Office.

TCB13 , to linux in Who here uses a less popular Linux distribution? What made you choose it?
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Why are people still using anything other than Debian and Redhat tho?

TCB13 , to linux in Has anyone managed to backup an iPhone with iTunes and bottle or wine?
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Maybe you can ask the people here lemmy.world/comment/4502628 that say that Wine is perfect and there are good alternatives to everything.

TCB13 , to linux in Misconceptions About Immutable Distributions
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I believe this answers it in detail: lemmy.world/comment/4574094

the article is very well written and effectively debunks a lot of misconceptions however those distros are still an unnecessary extra step that don’t provide a sufficient gain / improvement over “mutable” distributions and/or properly done setups. (…) it doesn’t really matter if there are truly open-source and open ecosystems of immutable distributions because in the end people/companies will pick the proprietary / closed option just because “it’s easier to use” or some other specific thing that will be good on the short term and very bad on the long term. This happened with CentOS vs Debian

TCB13 , to linux in Misconceptions About Immutable Distributions
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😂 😂 😂 😂 clearly have not worked a day in your life with immutable MIPS devices. If you did I believe your comment would be able to power half of the planet then.

TCB13 , (edited ) to linux in Misconceptions About Immutable Distributions
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Yes I did, the article is very well written and effectively debunks a lot of misconceptions however those distros are still an unnecessary extra step that don’t provide a sufficient gain / improvement over “mutable” distributions and/or properly done setups.

“just different” is by definition “more complicated” as most people going on the “immutable” hype will have to change entire workflows and tech stacks to end up gaining nothing. Moreover immutable distributions (or the majority / most popular of them) will simply add a ton of extra engineering hours and you can’t debug/fix things as quickly as you would otherwise will.

As the article said security isn’t even a valid argument for immutable distros and I’ll give you even more reasons. Properly done setups run on container technologies that allow for a more decent way of immutability - typically snapshots. If you’re going bare metal then use ZFS / BTRFS instead of the Ext4 crap and will also be provided you with that. Snapshots can be easily made automatically on schedule, manually, moved between systems etc. and won’t get in the way of your developers.

Also, the underlying technologies (like OSTree, nix-config, A/B-Root, and so on) aren’t proprietary

True, but this hype is much like Docker and it will invariably and inevitably lead people down a path that will then require some proprietary solution or dependency somewhere that is only required because the “new” technology itself alone doesn’t deliver as others did in the past.

As with CentOS’s fiasco or Docker is doesn’t really matter if there are truly open-source and open ecosystems of immutable distributions because in the end people/companies will pick the proprietary / closed option just because “it’s easier to use” or some other specific thing that will be good on the short term and very bad on the long term. This happened with CentOS vs Debian is currently unfolding with Docker vs LXC/RKT and will happen with Ubuntu vs Debian for all those who moved from CentOS to Ubuntu.

We had good examples of immutable distributions and architectures before as any MIPS router and/or IOT device is usually immutable and there are also reasons why people are moving away from those towards more mutable ARM architectures.

We should be exited what the future brings!

We don’t need to see the future to understand what immutable OSes bring to the table - we just have to look at the shit show that was made around MIPS.

TCB13 , (edited ) to linux in Misconceptions About Immutable Distributions
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Yes these distros are all about making thing that were easy into complex, “locked down”, “inflexible”, bullshit to justify jobs and payed tech stacks / some property solution existence.

We had Ansible, containers, ZFS and BTRFS that provided all the required immutability needed already but someone decided that is is time to transform regular machines into MIPS-style shitty devices that have a read-only OSes and a separate partition for configs. All in the hopes of eventually selling some orchestration and/or other proprietary repository / platform / BS like Docker / Kubernetes does.

TCB13 , to linux in What feature are you dying for to come to your DE - Linux?
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GNOME desktop icons that aren’t an extension that isn’t as good as something native.

TCB13 , to linux in Wine-wayland part 8: More window management Merged
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“a dedicated desktop client” that isn’t as reliable and practical as WinSCP is.

TCB13 , to linux in Wine-wayland part 8: More window management Merged
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No, I don’t. The thing is that I see people always saying its all perfect and whatnot when in fact it isn’t. Linux is great, way more stable than anything Microsoft ever did but desktop Linux isn’t a viable option for people who need to collaborate with others and no amount of Wine and other fuckery will make it so.

TCB13 , to piracy in Pirated game on Linux?
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AppImage launch times should be not that far off of running it barebone unless you have a MASSIVE appimage

They are and I guess Joplin isn’t that big. Flatpaks are way, way faster and make the same thing… but better in all ways. i7 8th gen with NVME btw.

TCB13 , to piracy in Pirated game on Linux?
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Bottles is not that much better. Crossover (payed) does a much better job but still it’s funny to see how ReactOS that is 100% “volunteer-developed and a reimplementation of the entirety of the Windows API” performs much better with older Windows applications. I believe they even share code with Wine.

TCB13 , to linux in Wine-wayland part 8: More window management Merged
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What I don’t get about Wine is that even ReactOS has better compatibility with some apps and I’m sure they have way less funding than Wine.

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