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Nvidia SUCKS!

I am trying to repeat my 10 Benchmarks video on my 3080M laptop, which I haven’t really used for a while apart from testing NVK. I had forgotten just HOW much Nvidia sucks. I had to reinstall the OS cause OpenSUSE stopped booting after I installed the drivers the first time. X11 is ALSO buggy on Nvidia and crashes randomly....

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On the left it’s Linux and on the right it’s Windows.

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I haven’t really played so I can’t really tell you.

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Proton (DXVK/VKD3D) is faster. The lightness of the system also helps.

ReverseModule OP ,
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How are these cherry picked games? Did you maybe want me to benchmark the 2k games in your library? XD

Also CS2 is slower on Linux.

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The video is just being transcoded, if you check in some hours it should be fine and you can always download it.

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Usually on an AMD GPU things run better. Then you look at the API. If it’s a DX9/DX10/DX11 game it will most certainly run better on Linux. On the other hand if it’s a DX12 game you will probably get the same performance most usually and ±10% in a few cases.

So the main thing to remember is to use an AMD GPU on Linux. If you’re on Nvidia you’re better off with Windows most probably, unless you care enough for the workflow benefits Linux offers.

After that, it should be smooth sailing.

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  • Yeah Adaptive quality aims for 60 FPS. In this particular situation it shouldn’t matter at all.
  • Still the difference is quite high to even get close to Linux. I didn’t even notice that sorry.
  • The aim of this video is to show fresh installs. What a user would do. You install OpenSUSE on an AMD system and fire up the games. You install Windows, run the updates, install the drivers and fire up the games. That’s whta most people would do and I think they care about. Both installations are fresh out of the oven and I just ran the game son them. This is the result.
  • Yeah without an overlay FF Benchmarks are pretty bad. XD Great series though!
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I will disagree and that’s why I made this video. Been benchmarking games for 3 years now, mostly on AMD systems. It went from about same performance, to slightly better, to this. 17% average improvement is nothing to laugh at. It’s the difference between a 4090 and a 7900XTX on Windows. So people can literally save $1000 just by using Linux.

What you say, does mostly apply to Nvidia users though.

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If you have an Nvidia GPU don’t switch to Linux, especialy if it’s a pre-Turing model. If you have a Turing+ GPU though wait for a year until NVK is actually usable, then look into it imo.

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I don’t see an argument which disproves my results apart from you disbelief. But I like the Nvidia comment. I’ll do a video of Linux vs Windows on my 3080M laptop. We’ll see how true is that Nvidia works as well as AMD on Linux. :)

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Truer words have never been said.

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You say that like I’m afraid to do it. You’re missing the point that these games don’t have benchmarks lol. If you want I can do a gameplay comparison but don’t tell me, the areas or movements are not the same. :)

Also these games couldn’t be more diverse. I tested DXVK, VD3D and Vulkan (both on Linux and Windows) with these games. If you can find a more diverse benchmark please let me know, cause I haven’t found one.

Also, I’m already doing benchmarks on my i7-10870H and 3080 laptop. Linux won’t go above 80W, cause of the Nvidia Drivers (545 Beta btw) so the difference will be IMMENSE for Windows there.

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It does say with huge letters the video is transcoding when it does. XD

ReverseModule OP ,
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You’re right, I will do that for the next ones. I just couldn’t hold my excitement. XD

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I only have Doom Eternal and Vermintide 2 from the games you mentioned. I can do the opening sequences of those. Is that ok?

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No worries, hopefully I can do it today! :)

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Just finished benchmarking. Vermintide 2 is about 15% faster on Linux while Doom Eternal is about 25% faster on Windows. I will have the video up as soon as it renders. :)

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I just installed the systems and followed the normal procedure of what any normal user would do. If you can’t deal with the facts that’s your problem.

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Video is up. Still transcoding, I will post it normally once it’s done. :)

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I know the multi is free, Does that have a Benchmark?

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You mean Linux? It’s 10 times easier and better than Windows lol.

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I just launch the games personally.

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Your doubts re completely unfounded. Linux was set up in 5 mins, I just installed OpenSUSE, installed Steam and ran the games, since the AMD/Intel drivers are included in the kernel.

On Windows I had to set up for like 45 mins until the installation and all the updates and drivers were done.

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I literally installed the system and Steam and ran the games. Linux is easier than you think with an AMD GPU. AMD Drivers are not even needed.

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Hahaha, I will admit the previous title was somewhat in people’s faces. I just went with a factual title this time. XD

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Awesoem, I’ll check it out then! :)

For all the doubters that Linux gaming is smoother and faster. (video.hardlimit.com)

A video for any doubters that Linux gaming is better than Windows in which it DESTROYS Windows by 25% in AC Odyssey. To put it in perspective, 25% improvement is like getting a new GPU. You can save $600 and instead use something like OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for free....

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Oh I didn’t know that, thanx for letting me know! :)

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I am not doing CPU Encoding on any system but there is a difference indeed.

Linux is Gstreamer VAAPI H265 and Windows GPU Encoding H264. In fact, Windows should have had an easier time encoding, I didn’t realize that until now. Also asI have commented on the video the game is on a 980 Pro on Windows and on an HDD on Linux so Linux can be much faster. I will rectify that by getting an SSD to put all my games on in the future.

Beyond that, the methodology is not flawed, if you can even believe that. Everything is on the video for comments exactly like this one.

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More videos like this will be coming. I can’t send you my PC to check its innards to believe, sorry.

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Exactly this. I am willing to believe these people either don’t game on Linux or just use Nvidia which has less performance on Linux. In any case Apex is a good idea. After Mirage which is on the schedule perhaps Apex will be the next one.

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Say what you will, I posted ALL the settings and updates and OBS Settings in video form. I am not obliged to do any of these things. People have come here stating that they don’t believe this is real without ANY arguments. When you want to talk seriously, maybe, we can do it.

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I never said ALL games run better on Linux. But on AMD most games do. I cannot fit ALL games in a video. You’re talking in generalities that cannot be proven. I did say more videos will come. Apart from Ray Tracing, gaming on Linux on AMD is both faster and smoother. Can you prove me wrong? Do it. :)

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The Linux gaming experience is better than Windows on AMD. Period. I’ve been testing games on many systems (mostly on AMD) through the Proton years. I just want t debunk the myth that Linux gaming is worse. Cause it’s not. It’s better.

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Thank you for your non-argument.

ReverseModule OP ,
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He also got more likes than me with his no-post. Be reminded of that. People live on copium.

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This is a year ago on Ubuntu lol. XD

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I mean this thread alone proves my point and my title. I have a video with 10 games coming up, DXVK, VKD3D, Vulkan on Proton and Native Vulkan. Let’s see how this goes with all the people that doubt that Linux Gaming is actually better than Windows.

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Thank you, exactly my point.

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Linux gaming is definitely not a mess. XD

But beyond that, I don’t care how Linux performs in games. I play CP on RT Ultra in Linux while on Windows it has double the performance. Too much of a hassle to reboot while Linux has liek 30 measurable advantages.

I just want to dispel the myth that Windows is better for gaming, cause it’s not.

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I agree about the anticheat games. Beyond that if you don’t play some extremely niche 1995 game, Linux will most probably work fine and better on an AMD system.

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This is very interesting. Keep in mind these are all DX12 games and VKD3D is still under heavy dev. Still nice to have it as information. Thank you very much! :)

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I don’t mind that but what I do mind is people not believing the video without any reason. It goes to show how deeply rooted the bias is.

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Sound works fine for me.

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