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Ilandar , to technology in 'LLM-free' is the new '100% organic' - Creators Are Fighting AI Anxiety With an ‘LLM-Free’ Movement

How is stacking 10 buckets of sand and letting them fall in an art gallery, comparable to real art? Dunno, but they call it that: “real art”.

Your insinuation here was that AI art is “real art” because someone once stacked 10 buckets of sand and called it “real art”. It comes across as pretty desperate that you relied on a comparison with something as questionable as this to argue that AI art is the equivalent of traditional art. As you said, there will always be artists and “artists”. Sounds like AI “artists” fit in quite well with the latter group.

Ilandar , to piracy in Are there any good piracy streaming apps available for Android TV that aren't incredibly involved?

Stremio is pretty easy to setup. You will need to make use of the community add-ons, found here.

Ilandar , to technology in 'LLM-free' is the new '100% organic' - Creators Are Fighting AI Anxiety With an ‘LLM-Free’ Movement

Err, you admitted yourself that you are absolutely clueless when it comes to AI music generation. So yes, your “point” was a bad one and clearly came from a place of complete ignorance.

Ilandar , to technology in 'LLM-free' is the new '100% organic' - Creators Are Fighting AI Anxiety With an ‘LLM-Free’ Movement

I’m not sure equating AI art to sand bucket man is the glowing endorsement you think it is.

Ilandar , to technology in 'LLM-free' is the new '100% organic' - Creators Are Fighting AI Anxiety With an ‘LLM-Free’ Movement

They’re not just typing in “make me a pretty image” and then refreshing a lot.

The only explanation I’ve received so far sounded exactly like this, just with more steps to disguise the underlying process.

Ilandar , to technology in 'LLM-free' is the new '100% organic' - Creators Are Fighting AI Anxiety With an ‘LLM-Free’ Movement

You’re sort of stepping around the issue here. Are you confirming that AI art is about cycling through options blind until you stumble across something you like?

Ilandar , to technology in 'LLM-free' is the new '100% organic' - Creators Are Fighting AI Anxiety With an ‘LLM-Free’ Movement

It was a terrible and irrelevant point, as I explained. Thanks for the links though, I will check them out.

Ilandar , to technology in Microsoft in damage-control mode, says it will prioritize security over AI

In some cases, this will mean prioritizing security above other things we do, such as releasing new features or providing ongoing support for legacy systems.

Hopefully this doesn’t go the Apple direction where “security” becomes the catch-all defence for anti-consumer business practices.

Ilandar , to technology in 'LLM-free' is the new '100% organic' - Creators Are Fighting AI Anxiety With an ‘LLM-Free’ Movement

You keep using the word “vision”, but I have a hard time understanding how an AI artist has a vision equivalent to that of a traditional artist based on the explanation you’ve provided. It still sounds they are just cycling through AI generated options until they find something they like/that looks good. That is not the same as seeing something in your mind and then manually recreating that to the best of your ability.

Ilandar , to technology in 'LLM-free' is the new '100% organic' - Creators Are Fighting AI Anxiety With an ‘LLM-Free’ Movement

You see where I’m going with this?

No, I’m sorry but those are terrible examples. Synthesisers still require full creative control and an understanding of sound production techniques to create a custom sound. Some musicians rely on presets and samples, but even then they still need to be capable of actually composing a piece of music. Also, the debate was largely about whether synthesisers could be considered real instruments, not whether the music created by synthesisers was real music. The Hip Hop comparison is completely irrelevant and an even worse attempt at conflating genuine criticism of AI “musicians” with “old people are just mad”.

I don’t know anything about AI music generation

It’s literally just prompts AFAIK, so the people making it don’t require any musical talent, ability or creativity. They are just asking someone/something else to make them music that has a certain sound. It’s the equivalent of a monarch commissioning a piece of work from their court musician and then claiming they are a musician too.

visual art can be generated by AI models on local machines with a great amount of fine tuning and depth.

Are there specific pieces of AI art software people use? Any popular ones you can recommended to help me understand the process better?

Ilandar , to technology in 'LLM-free' is the new '100% organic' - Creators Are Fighting AI Anxiety With an ‘LLM-Free’ Movement

But even if you don’t, have some respect for the AI artists out there who put time and effort into their craft.

What kind of time and effort? How is AI art a skill that is comparable to real art? I am genuinely asking here, I’d like to understand your work process.

I am not a visual artist, but I have composed my own music and the amount of time and/or effort needed to create a comparable piece using generative AI is not even close to being the same. I think there is a place for AI tools that assist artists, but people generating entire pieces using AI and then referring to themselves as “artists” is honestly delusional and sad. I hope that’s not what you are referring to here.

Ilandar , to technology in 'LLM-free' is the new '100% organic' - Creators Are Fighting AI Anxiety With an ‘LLM-Free’ Movement

From the article:

The Atlantic has a corporate partnership with OpenAI. The editorial division of The Atlantic operates independently from the business division.

Ilandar , to technology in 'LLM-free' is the new '100% organic' - Creators Are Fighting AI Anxiety With an ‘LLM-Free’ Movement

Yes, I always get the feeling that a lot of these militant AI sceptics are pretty clueless about where the technology is and the rate at which it is improving. They really owe it to themselves to learn as much as they can so they can better understand where the technology is heading and what the best form of opposition will be in the future. As you say, relying on “haha Google made a funny” isn’t going to cut it forever.

Ilandar , to android in It's time to stop thinking plastic phones can't be premium

I was being a dick and asking a rhetorical question there, because I thought it would be pretty obvious that the support for a small Chinese manufacturer would be abysmal.

Ilandar , to android in It's time to stop thinking plastic phones can't be premium

What do you mean by track? Unihertz is a small Chinese manufacturer - it makes no guarantees around support and barely delivers any updates to its devices, as is the norm within much of the non-Google, non-Samsung Android market. It’s really only within the last couple of years that the industry has actually made a bit of progress in this area.

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